She is however a holocaust denier
QueenHawlSera 45 points a month ago
nickiwest 21 points a month ago
Source?
I have seen zero credible sources for this specific claim of Holocaust denial. The closest I've found is that she argued that trans people weren't the first group targeted by the Nazis. (Not denying that they were targeted. Just disputing that they were first.) That's not the same as "Holocaust denial."
I already know she's a bad person who uses her celebrity to spread hate and spends her time and money trying to further oppress some of the most marginalized people in the world. We can dislike her for those very real reasons without spreading false stories about her.
cupcakezealot 25 points a month ago
jk rowling is definitely the type of person who will argue the holocaust didn't exist with george takei, who was literally in concentration camps during ww2.
TheRealKuni 17 points a month ago
Okay but, let’s be fair, not knowing the Nazis burned books on trans healthcare and research is not the same as denying the holocaust.
I’m not saying she hasn’t denied the holocaust. I’m just saying this isn’t an example of that.
arudesalad 11 points a month ago
She didn't argue that trans people weren't the first group targeted, she argured that trans people weren't targeted at all/it doesn't matter that they were (however you want to read into the tweet linked in the article).
heliotrope 7 points a month ago
Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks!
Grail 19 points a month ago
What are you doing on blahaj zone, mate? That's the trans instance. She denied the genocide of trans people during the holocaust. She denied the book burnings of the research by the institute of sex and gender research.
atopi -1 points a month ago
But transphobia and nazism are different things
Also, wouldnt holocaust denial be when you deny that the holocaust existed (to say that the nazis werent that bad), not when you deny that a certain group was targeted?
lemdeggity 14 points a month ago
I don't see anything about holocaust denial in your link. There's a 2018 article discussing parallels between her work and the real holocaust but it doesn't claim she's a denier. I don't really care for Rowling but I also don't like misinformation. If there is some evidence can you please share it?
Estiar 29 points a month ago
She thinks that transgender people were not persecuted during the Holocaust.
uniquethrowagay 10 points a month ago
I think she just doesn't believe trans identity is a real thing and that it wasn't yet "invented" in the 1930s.
Not knowing what the fuck they're talking about is kind of a staple of transphobes.
lemdeggity 16 points a month ago
Thanks for the source although I think that's quite specific. It seems mostly about her being ignorant and doubling down on her war against trans people rather than a blanket denial of the holocaust which the term "holocaust denier" conjures
Your article frames it this way:
While Rowling has not denied the Holocaust itself happened, she is accused of engaging in a form of Holocaust denial for questioning the persecution of trans people under the Nazi regime, a fact which has been well documented
I'm not denying she's a cunt but I think it's important to be precise with these sorts of allegations.
Estiar 4 points a month ago
I think that's a pretty accurate assessment. I personally haven't seen any evidence that she's anti-Semitic and that is the center of Holocaust denialism. I don't think her claims are driven by conspiracy theories. She just has a million Yes Men who encourage her anti-trans positions and it just feels right to her
heliotrope 1 point a month ago
See @Estiar@sh.itjust.works's comment
hildegarde 8 points a month ago
Acephobe??? I was unaware. Good to know I'm hated double.
hopesfall 5 points a month ago
Honestly, calling everyone a nazi just feeds into the right's narrative of "oh they call everyone a nazi, ignore them".
I'm not defending anyone, especially not J.K. Rowling, but this isn't helping our cause, quite the contrary actually.
tazeycrazy 1 point a month ago
It's a bit like Kleenex and velcro. They lose there trademark the more people that get groups with Naziism. Unfortunately no one is protecting the nazi brand.
Axolotl_cpp 5 points a month ago
Oh that's how they found nazism! I spent 60 seconds searching for nazism in the page but i didn't find it so i just stopped
N0tTr0xy 21 points a month ago
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TherapyGary 5 points a month ago
Lmao I thought you were guessing/joking until I checked
N0tTr0xy 7 points a month ago
Anything (The Damned album) → Denmark → Nazism is even faster due to Danish Studio
SeductiveTortoise 20 points a month ago
I wasn't aware other countries played 5 clicks to Hitler as well.
Manalith 7 points a month ago
Not sure where you're at but I do this frequently. Also do an IMDb pick an actor and a movie and see how quickly you can get that movie by navigating cast lists and credits I.e Will Smith > Ad Astra
Will Smith > Men in Black > Tommy Lee Jones > Ad Astra. That's a simple one, but you get the idea.
SeductiveTortoise 3 points a month ago
Germany. And to be honest, it might be easier over here.
isVeryLoud 2 points a month ago
Isn't this just a twist on "degrees of Kevin Bacon"?
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pumpupthejam 9 points a month ago
Oh now do Morrissey
pineapplelover 6 points a month ago
This is a dope game
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EDIT: She's a holocaust denier, which I didn't know. Guess she is a nazi after all!
Here's the link (from Political views of J. K. Rowling):
She is very much a TERF, an acephobe, kinda racist (just look at her character names), and therefore quite a horrible person; but, while it wouldn't surprise me if she was, she is not a nazi.
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