Should I quit my job?

3 years ago by EmpeRohr to c/nostupidquestions

Edit: I have to commute 1,5 hours oneway to get to work. HomeOffice is allowed 2 times a week. So I am leaving when my son is still in bed and come back when he is in bed again. Thing is, the money is good and the job is kind of a dream job for me.

Edit2: Wow! Thank you for your comments. These are exactly the thoughts Inhad in my mind, but couldn’t point my fingers on them. Unfortunately there is no way to get more days wfh, because high management says so. So i came to the descision to either ask for part time or get the new job asap

ritswd 32 points 3 years ago

I was on similar threads on Reddit where 90% of the replies were: “do it! do it! who gives a fuck! do it!”, and here the replies seem to be 90% “actually we care about what happens to you, so let’s weigh the pros and cons”. I guess it says a lot about the difference between both communities. 😉

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5redie8 3 points 3 years ago

This place is such a breath of fresh air isn't it lol

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ritswd 1 point 3 years ago

Sure is!

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TragicNotCute 31 points 3 years ago

It’s a tough market at the moment, so it’s never a bad time to start looking, but I wouldn’t quit until I had something in hand

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ConditionOverload 27 points 3 years ago

I think you should look into trying to move closer to where you work. If that's not possible then look for a different job, set it up first, then go ahead with quitting this one.

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annegreen 1 point 3 years ago

This is definitely the most reasonable approach.

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bobaduk 26 points 3 years ago

Write down on a bit of paper "I want to spend more time with my son, I can always find another job", then flip it over and write "I'm going to spend my time on work, I can always have another kid" and see how you feel.

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dhork 26 points 3 years ago

The best time to look for a job is when you already have one. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that just because you are spreading your resume around you have to leave eventually. Actively pursue other opportunities while still giving your current job all the attention it warrants.

I last started looking for a job because I had an asshole manager, but didn't find anything worth leaving over, so I stayed. That guy eventually failed upwards, out of my management chain. But I eventually got hooked up with my current job based on that search. I wouldn't say it's a dream job, but it's definitely better.

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spicyjimmy87762 25 points 3 years ago

Don’t quit unless you have a new job first. I had a friend quit first and he’s still looking over 8 months later.

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clueless_stoner 11 points 3 years ago
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justhach 3 points 3 years ago

Yep. The old adage is "its easier to find work when you're working"

I've always found it harder to find a job when I was not working vs. when I was.

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Bryn 2 points 3 years ago
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Techpriest 21 points 3 years ago
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Today 19 points 3 years ago

Don't quit your dream job. You have 4 days per week at home and a job you love. That is a dream to a lot of people.

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Flipht 12 points 3 years ago

This. And you can move closer if you intend to keep this job and have a pretty good feeling that they won't fire you. Especially if you're currently renting, just look at closer rentals when your lease is coming up.

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Guy_Fieris_Hair 5 points 3 years ago

I guess that's really the POV you need to look at. There are 7 days a week and you only have to travel on 3 of them. That's better than most people. I am a firefighter and I don't see my home for 3 days a week. Sounds crazy but I love my schedule compared to family/friends that are gone 5 days a week through the day. They may sleep in their bed at night, but that's about it.

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taj 1 point 3 years ago

That's how my boys have grown up. It's a different life, and not an easy one. Mostly it's the 48+ hr shifts that are rough.

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morgan_423 18 points 3 years ago

For me a few factors would be prevalent, I'd have several questions to ask myself.

  1. What type of commuting? If you're driving, that's a very large time sink of 9 hours a week with little opportunity to do anything worthwhile with it. But if you're on a train, then maybe you can work some entertainment and enhancement into your commute time because you have the gift of attention, and that time wouldn't go fully to waste. Buy a Steam Deck and play games on the way in and home. Or bring a novel to read. Or find some professional development materials online to bring with you, and skill up as you travel. Anything but allowing that time to bleed into the void.

  2. Might your company be open to giving you more home working time? Even three days at home weekly versus two is a HUGE quality of life difference. One day office, or fully remote, even better still. If your role definitely doesn't have to be physically there, and you would save your company office space for other uses, you may be able to make a pretty good business case, if you can find the tangible wins for your employer.

  3. Failing all that, I'd check around to see if I could land a similar role at a different company that allowed full remote or less office time. Even if you take a slight pay cut, remember that reclaiming that commute time is valuable (both in the time itself and the lessening of expenses, like wear and tear and fuel for a vehicle, or 150 round trip train tickets and external lunches a year, et cetera) and should be weighed into what you're "really" making.

  4. Above all, if you decide a change is in order, have your new thing lined up first. The economy is tightening almost everywhere right now and if you're unemployed, it can take quite a while to get a preferable new job lined up. Do that work on the side while in your current job if you decide to do it.

Apologies for the book, this is just fresh for me, I was doing all of this analysis up until a few months ago, when my company pivoted from three days a week in the office (which was wrecking me) to two days a month, solving my dilemma. We're obviously not the same people with identical lives, but I thought some insight from someone who'd recently had the same situation might help. Best of luck to you!

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Mando 18 points 3 years ago

Is moving closer to your work not an option?

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EmpeRohr 7 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately no, just bought a house

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dan1101 1 point 3 years ago

Still, if you want the job and more home life, you gotta live closer to work.

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overzeetop 0 points 3 years ago

Wait…you just bought a house 1.5h away from your good paying dream job? WTF is wrong with you? Bail on the house, eat the loss and move closer.

Okay, that said, I was in your position 20 years ago. It wasn’t my dream job and it wasn’t great pay, but it was a field I was moving into and it was steady work. I found some land an hour away from my job and built my dream house from scratch. FF two years, I’ve got an 8 month old and I’m in your boat with the evenings and mornings and never seeing her.

After some number crunching I quit my job and opened my own business. In my first 8 months I made nothing. I burned through the 10k in savings and startup money and another 10k I’d made doing jobs. In my second year I grossed 60k - almost enough to replace my salary, not including any benefits. We were living off my wife’s salary for that time. By year 4 my wife quit her job to work part time for me (accountant) and rest of the time be with the kid. Got our asses kicked in 09 and spent all my salary on my employees (still had to drop one) and three years later things were okay but I closed the office and moved to work from home as a single consultant. The last decade has been wonderful and the clientele and self determination means I’m around for pretty much every event DD does. I’m still middle class (call it 75-80th percentile) - no new car in the drive, sold the dream home to move into a small 1960s house in town to get a better school district. Life is good and I’m glad I didn’t stay at my job.

I was lucky and nobody should ever underestimate how much luck goes into success. You having a good paying, enjoyable job. That’s pretty damned lucky. Think hard before rolling the dice but if you do - may the wind be at your back.

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EmpeRohr 3 points 3 years ago

Bought the house more than a year ago, landed the job 4 months ago

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TheShane 1 point 3 years ago

Moving home is a big ask. Clearly, you like the place as you bought it.

So, maybe asking your management if more WFH is an option. The worst they can say is no, and you will have your answer. From there, if they say yes, you have more time with your son. If they say no, you thank them for considering your request, keep your head down while at work, and quietly look for something more suitable to your lifestyle needs.

It may take a couple of weeks, or it may take a few months. Get paid while you are looking, and do not work until you have that signed employment contract in your hands!

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Jo 16 points 3 years ago

If your employer would not want to lose you, think about what would make it work better for you and then talk to your manager. More days WFH, or shorter hours on days you're in the office, or a big fat relocation package, or whatever works for you.

If they can't/won't help, don't quit until you have another job lined up. Make sure they know it's why you're leaving.

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QuarterSwede 13 points 3 years ago

I would ask, what do you value more? You’re career or your family?

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EmpeRohr 7 points 3 years ago

Definitelyy my family, but as this is kind of my dreamjob, this is a tough decision

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Usernameblankface 2 points 3 years ago

Definitely family followed by maybe career though. No wonder you're stuck, you haven't decided yet which one is worth sacrificing for the other.

Is there a related job within reach that would allow you to see your family more? Would your current job consider allowing full time work from home to keep you around?

Edit. Finally noticed your second edit. Good for you! I'm glad you have made a plan that you are 100% interested in that lines up with your values.

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ExtraMedicated 13 points 3 years ago

I don't have advice, I just can't understand why more companies don't allow WFH full time. The company I work for went WFH at the start of the quarantine in 2020. We are currently doing better than ever, and going to the office remains completely optional.

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Billy_Gnosis 6 points 3 years ago

So did my company. But I'm under no illusion. They didn't do it for their employees, they did it to save money. They ended up closing about 12 offices in CA alone saving millions in leases and utility costs. Doesn't really matter to me though, as long as I get to stay home.

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pathief 2 points 3 years ago

I am working from home ever since the pandemic started and I can say with confidence that talking with people in real life is way more productive. You grab your notebook or a whiteboard, it's much easier to get your point across and for everyone to chime in.

Ideally, I'd enjoy at least a day or two with the team but it's not reasonable for a (small) company to pay for an office with such low attendance. With the same money you can hire another dev, which we really need.

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scarabic 11 points 3 years ago

Tough one. But here’s how I would decide.

3 days a week of not being able to see your kid is a big price to pay. You can do it if it is meaningfully taking you somewhere. To the next level. Something. But can you keep doing this forever? I couldn’t. I’d only be able to do it for a finite period because it would move the needle on our lives somehow.

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WhiteTiger 11 points 3 years ago

Even if you don't quit now, you have to realize this isn't sustainable. Make a plan for when you need to leave by, and work torwards it. It may be a month, a year, or 5 years. But the fact that you're considering leaving means this ISN'T a dream job.

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wheresyourshoe 7 points 3 years ago

Can you use your home office days to look for other work that's closer to home or is wfh? A commute like that is incomprehensible to me. I'm lucky enough that I have never worked more than 20 minutes from my house, and I don't even apply to jobs that are further away. I understand not everyone can do that she to their industry and costs of living in certain areas, but 3 hours a day of commute is brutal.

In my mind, if you're missing out on time with your family, especially your child, it's a no brainier. But, because you have a family to support, you should find a new job before you quit this one. A job you like and quality time at home is better than your dream job and missing all the milestones of growing up.

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EmpeRohr 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah it is working from home. I already updated my cv and sent it out on multiple platforms to potential employers.So i am waiting for feedback here. But in the meantime i suffer

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PuffyPanda 7 points 3 years ago
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WhatASave 35 points 3 years ago

I can't tell if this was posted on the wrong thread or a really deep metaphor I don't yet understand.

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QuarterSwede 6 points 3 years ago

You’re gonna have to give us more than that I’m afraid.

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EmpeRohr 5 points 3 years ago

Edited my post. I just get used to lemmy, sorry for that.

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QuarterSwede 4 points 3 years ago

Ah, no worries then. Glad you’re here!

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neanderthal 2 points 3 years ago

Face punch for such a ridiculous commute on purpose!

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TheInsane42 5 points 3 years ago

I live in The Netherlands and the commute here is about 1h, when I leave after rush hour. We have a requirement to work at least 2 days from home (higher management) and a request from direct management to work 2 days at the office when possible/workload allows it. Management here already noticed that productivity is higher when working from homeoffice, they even told us that when we want to work, we should do that at home. ;) (Office days are for meetings, so we can forget getting any work done)

What I do is during home office days is work a tad more, so I can make the office days a tad shorter, to compensate for the commute. Also, it's safer to drive outside rush hour, as it's a lot less stressing. Also I try to work from home as much as possible, which is allowed. The restitution for commuting is less then the actual costs, so it saves me time and money, more then working parttime would.

I would try to arrange that you'll be at the office 1h less on office days and compensate that during homeoffice days, although that's kinda hard with 3 office days and only 2 homeoffice days. Also, keep en eye out for a job that's more a dream to you then kinda a dream. No job is important enough to have a part of it stand in the way of your private life. Companies are usually a lot less loyal then employees. Most people work to provide a living for themselves and their families, not to keep them away from the family.

BTW never, ever, quit before you have something else. When a new company wants you, they can wait for the notice period. (and it sets you back when you apply for a job from an unemployed state)

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Hairyblue 5 points 3 years ago

I have about an hour drive to work, so 2 hours a day just driving. The drive is not bad at all, not a lot of traffic and no interstate. I listen to podcasts about everything with those 2 hours. Or books on tape. It never really feels like an hour when I have entertainment to listen too.

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Cevilia 5 points 3 years ago
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roo 4 points 3 years ago

Can you bump the morning start for a late start, and just finish later? Would it reduce the commute time by being off peak? Having mornings with your son is not bad.

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Mirodir 4 points 3 years ago

Would moving closer to your workplace be an option? You said the pay is good and you like working there.

You could save up to 3 hours every non-homeoffice work day.

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wheresyourshoe 2 points 3 years ago

They said in another reply that they just bought a house, so moving isn't really an option. They decided to ask for part time and/or look for a new job.

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s049031 4 points 3 years ago

Context?

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EmpeRohr 5 points 3 years ago

Edited my post. I just get used to lemmy, sorry for that.

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s049031 2 points 3 years ago

No worries, no need to apologize

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Hanhula 3 points 3 years ago

I'd definitely look for a new job closer. If anyone has recently left, you might be able to talk to them about it.

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Bryn 1 point 3 years ago
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thereisalamp 3 points 3 years ago

We have an obligation to show our children happiness can exist in a work life balance.
Could you be happier with your balance elsewhere? This is really the only question to answer.
I'm away from home now than my husband, but I'm day happier in my job than I've ever been in my life. My happiest work life balance is being happy at work. When I'm off I'm more likely to spend meaningful time with them now, than when I was home more often, but absent from the moment because I was depressed with my life over all.
Do you have balance? Honestly, if seems like you do because the loss of either of both seems to cause you distress. But this is only one person looking in

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Renacles 3 points 3 years ago

I would start looking for something else on the side, if you find something you like then great, if you don't you just keep what you already have.

I work 100% from home and wouldn't change it for anything.

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PastorHaggis 3 points 3 years ago

I'm a little late to the discussion but as someone who use to have a similar commute (albeit as a college intern) and had no WFH option, I'd start looking to either move closer or change jobs. If it's your dream job, it have to decide if it's worth the sacrifice. For me, I'd rather have a shorter commute and work a job I didn't like as much but I have coworkers now who don't mind the drive.

Ultimately, it's up to you. Make a pro con list, talk to your significant other if you have one. I'll also give you the advice that my dad gave me that has guided my career. The first is "the best time to look for a job is when you have one." The second is "sometimes it's worth a pay cut for your sanity if you can afford it."

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drewisawesome14 3 points 3 years ago
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NumbersCanBeFun 2 points 3 years ago
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x2XS2L0U 2 points 3 years ago

Depends on what you do, I guess. I'd look for another job while having the current one and switch over without a pause then.

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LostCause 2 points 3 years ago

Is there any way you could work less hours/days? It‘s quite common in my country to do so after the parental leave is over, many start out by working part time so they can be with the kid more. Maybe they‘d rather have you work a bit less than not at all.

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