Boxen!
ToastedRavioli 12 points 17 days ago
The big yellow one is the sun
KoboldCoterie 12 points 17 days ago
"It's a cup of dirt! ...I took a cup... and I put some dirt in it."
ergonomic_importer 3 points 17 days ago
Do you have tube of cannonball wound ointment?
ArcaneGadget 19 points 18 days ago
That's a hard rule... That's a rough rule...
KoboldCoterie 17 points 18 days ago
I think this is the first time I've ever quoted Brian Regan and had anyone know what I was referencing. Right on!
Edit: For anyone not in the know, here's a clip of the routine and here's that exact bit.
Unique_Emerald_Sol_I 6 points 17 days ago
That's kinda funny for me as a former pony fan because that exact bit got turned into a super-popular animation that at least cemented itself in the brains of all my friends.
KoboldCoterie 6 points 17 days ago
That's funny! Now I'll always have to wonder if folks think I'm quoting Brian Regan, or that animation.
crayons_to_chaos 7 points 18 days ago
This is the type of mnemonic device I can get behind. Now if only it were subtly rooted in class consciousness...
icanbrewmushrooms 18 points 18 days ago
How do you pronounce 'received'? (Or foreign, for that matter...)
FlexibleToast 14 points 18 days ago
It doesn't work all the time. English is full of nonsense like that. People always only remember half of this rule though.
fartographer 6 points 18 days ago
False. It's the runoff of a language-rich neighborhood. Stewing in a ditch filled with what looks like mud but smells like a dead family of possums at the bottom of a park trash can.
mnemonicmonkeys 4 points 18 days ago
Also funnily enough, it's arguably the most representative of the Germanic languages as a whole. It started out as a form of Central Germanic. Then during the Viking Age it was heavily influencd by a Northern Germanic language, Old Norse.
Even the French influence is a very specific variety of French, since the Normans were actually descended from Vikings
JargonWagon 4 points 17 days ago
"Received" would be the "except after C" part, not the "sounding like ay" part.
Not sure about "foreign", or "leisure" for that matter. Maybe foreign used to be pronounced with the "ay" sound. I'm guessing something similar with leisure.
nogooduser 4 points 17 days ago
The rule that I was taught as a kid was “I before E except after C only if the sound is ee”
It catches all of the examples on the mug except “weird” which gets a pass in my book because it’s weird (Keith’s excluded because proper nouns don’t follow rules). It doesn’t catch “caffeine” but the “ei” in “caffeinated” isn’t pronounced ee where I come from.
I’ve never heard the “ay” rule but it doesn’t seem to catch as many words as the “not ee” rule.
LwL 1 point 16 days ago
Yeah the whole rule (and really the whole confusion) is about "ee". Other pronunciations are always spelt "ei" anyway.
It still has exceptions but it catches a lot. And i wish people followed it because I die inside every time someone spells "Wiener" as "Weiner". The city is called Wien ffs.
its_kim_love -4 points 18 days ago
Received is the except after C rule. Foreign uses the same ay sound as neighbor.
Keith is a better one, but it's a proper noun so a lot of rules for spelling are ignored.
DrunkenDuckling 3 points 17 days ago
They do but not where its_kim thinks:
fȯr-ən
nā-bər
The "ei" in "foreign" is a schwa ( /ə/ ) and so is the "o" in neighbor.
Sources (American English): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foreign, https://www.merriam-webster.com/...
its_kim_love -9 points 18 days ago
It does when you pronounce it correctly.
LostCarcosan 13 points 18 days ago
Foreign does not use the same sound as neighbor.
nAYbor
forEN
its_kim_love -7 points 18 days ago
It absolutely doesn't have a hard E vowel sound. Except when my deep south relatives say it.
WorldsDumbestMan 0 points 16 days ago
Just memorize the exceptions. It's better to memorize rules than words.
WolvenSpectre 12 points 17 days ago
You must pronounce Foreign in a strange way. https://en.wikipedia.org/...
jonathan7luke 10 points 18 days ago
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its_kim_love 7 points 18 days ago
or when sounding like "ay", as in neighbor or weigh
And on weekends and holidays and all throughout may. You'll always be wrong no matter what you say!
atomicbocks 7 points 18 days ago
That’s not very scientific…
Edit: Downvote why? ‘Science’ clearly doesn’t follow the rule.
humorlessrepost 5 points 18 days ago
Good point, need to add that it’s also only for diphthongs. Science doesn’t apply because the i and e are in different syllables.
atomicbocks 1 point 17 days ago
Honestly I wish we would just stop teaching stupid ‘rules’ like this. English is easier to just remember than to try to suss out some sort of rule set by which you can magically spell a word you just heard or magically pronounce a word you have only read. I hated being told to sound shit out when I was a kid.
It’s like “‘c’s make a ‘k’ or ‘s’ noise, sound it out”: Pacific Ocean
Fucking really?
UncleArthur 1 point 18 days ago
The phrase I learned was "except after 'c' but only if the sound is 'ee'". Mostly also works.
wolframhydroxide 3 points 17 days ago
As a scientist, I'm getting a seizure from people in society pretending like this is a useful rule.
Entertainmeonly 9 points 18 days ago
I think you mean wceird... 😵
massive_bereavement 10 points 18 days ago
English was a mistake, you shouldn't mix so many languages. Look what you've done!
Texas_Hangover 5 points 18 days ago
I blame the Germans for all this 🤬
mnemonicmonkeys 1 point 18 days ago
No, you should blame the Vikings. They're the ones that did all the blending
wolframhydroxide 4 points 17 days ago
As someone who's actually studied Old English and Old Norse: No, you are incorrect. it was the French. It's always been the French. 1066.
Old English was a perfectly coherent language, and had incredibly consistent spelling rules. Meanwhile, one need only take a single look at a sentence in French to gauge precisely how much respect for spelling is held by francophones (being facetious with this last note, of course, but the point stands)
mnemonicmonkeys 0 points 17 days ago
You missed my point completely. Which French were the ones who invaded in 1066? Who were they descended from?
Haaveilija 7 points 16 days ago
i.e. English is weird
TheLeadenSea 7 points 18 days ago
i before e, except after c, and this only applies when it rhymes with "me"
northendtrooper 1 point 18 days ago
Feels like it was ripped from the AI in Dungeon Crawler Carl
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