Right-Wingers Are Mad Anti-Welfare Ad Isn't Racist Enough

14 days ago by Midnight to c/nottheonion

Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders was attacked by right wingers for depicting a lazy, white, gamer named "Brad" in an ad about welfare fraud.
AfterlifeAdventures 69 points 14 days ago
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chicken 61 points 13 days ago

“black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent.

Pretty ridiculously disingenuous and misleading to make this complaint when there are more white people on food stamps than black people.

dignity of work

What a joke

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Pat_Riot 11 points 13 days ago

I have been a white man who needed assistance and turned to "welfare" to survive.

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TheRagingGeek 10 points 13 days ago

I as well, it was what opened my eyes in my 20’s that all the bullshit I was fed as a kid was in fact false.

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WorldsDumbestMan 6 points 13 days ago

Congratulations on your transition! How do you feel now?

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Pat_Riot 7 points 13 days ago

It's nice not needing the help anymore. Transitioning to being not broke wasn't an easy or quick process, and I certainly couldn't have done it all on my own, but it was worth it. I'm still a white guy though I try not to hold that against myself.

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zedgeist 1 point 13 days ago

Will you hold it against me? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Passerby6497 7 points 13 days ago

“black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent.

Pretty ridiculously disingenuous and misleading to make this complaint when there are more white people on food stamps than black people.

That's called statistics! Remember, there are 3 types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

This is just another rebranding of the "13 50" bullshit in a different trenchcoat.

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dogdeanafternoon 7 points 13 days ago

When looking at stats, you shouldn’t look at absolute numbers, you need to look at distribution too. According to google US is approximately 59% white, and 13% black, and food stamp numbers are 38% white and 25% black. So there does seem to be truth to if you are black you are more likely to be on food stamps.

Systemic racism might play a factor here.

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chicken 9 points 13 days ago

So there does seem to be truth to if you are black you are more likely to be on food stamps

Sure but in context that should not matter at all if the question is what demographic is the appropriate choice to represent the typical US welfare recipient. In this case total numbers are more relevant than relative proportion, you'd want the median person.

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Thebeardedsinglemalt 3 points 13 days ago

More than 1/3 of just under 2/3 of the population vs 1/4 of slightly over 1/10 of the population.

Rough estimates

White on food stamps: 76.2 million

Black on food stamps: 11.1 million

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dogdeanafternoon 1 point 13 days ago

That’s my point though, those numbers are meaningless. What if I gave you these numbers:

White not on food stamps: 122.6 million

Black not on food stamps: 33.2 million

There are zero valid conclusions to be drawn.

Analyzing the actual numbers, it seems a random black person is 3x more likely to be on food stamps than a random white person in the US.

(0.25/0.13) / (0.38/0.59) = 2.99

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Bubbaonthebeach 4 points 13 days ago

Also, if there are 100 evenly distributed welfare recipients in a room, and you pick one at random, it is more likely they will be white than black.

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Soggy 0 points 13 days ago

Systemic racism might play a factor here.

Might? Centuries of being held down at every turn and prevented from accumulating generational wealth "might" be a factor in modern poverty?

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dogdeanafternoon 4 points 13 days ago

Not everything is literal my guy. Try reading between the lines.

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Soggy -3 points 13 days ago

Try being honest.

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Manjushri 57 points 13 days ago

Right-wing pastor Joel Webbon was explicit: “Why pick a White man? You should make your message more believable by picking someone Black.”

A lot of these guys are just completely mask-off these days.

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apudgypanda 7 points 13 days ago

they should have their heads "off" too

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BeardededSquidward 4 points 13 days ago

I have a good nick name for them, torso boys!

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jtrek 56 points 13 days ago

Every one of those right wing complainers are among the worst people on earth.

They never seem to complain about rich people who just live off investments and inherited wealth.

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moldy_rice 24 points 13 days ago
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Tollana1234567 17 points 13 days ago

and taxation theft(through tax evasion/shelter methods)

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Valmond 11 points 13 days ago

And sometimes murder rape and pedophily too!

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Tollana1234567 14 points 13 days ago

republicans, white people and conservative pocs are taught through propaganda that being rich/white is the epitome of an "citizen" so no they will never complain about rich people.

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Krumm 3 points 13 days ago

I'm working hard so those at the top never have to.

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RonnyZittledong 37 points 14 days ago

They can't agree on the type of evil they want to be

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Kolanaki 11 points 13 days ago

"I want to be Krang from TMNT and suck the whole world into dimension X!"

"Well I want to be The Man With the Golden Gun and steal solar technology that can be weaponized into a giant space laser and hold the world ransom!"

"I just want to be Abys Mal from Aladdin and get a cool hat..."

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HobbitFoot 7 points 13 days ago

"I want to be Krang from TMNT and suck the whole world into dimension X!"

Look, all I'm saying is that Krang is sitting at the perfect height.

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Kolanaki 5 points 13 days ago

He's in the stomach of a pretty tall robot dude. Perfect height for what? 🤨

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HobbitFoot 3 points 13 days ago

Perfect height for Michelangelo.

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magikmw 4 points 13 days ago

I was today years old when I learned that guy is called Abis Mal. There's so much these movies lose with dubbing.

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alcoholicorn 25 points 13 days ago

British right-wing commentator Charles Cornish-Dale, known online as “Raw Egg Nationalist.”

Wtf why do raw-egg eating weirdos seperated by an entire ocean and half an America know, let alone have a take on political ads in Arkansas?

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WorldsDumbestMan 11 points 13 days ago

Because the bad guys, including the racists that supposedly hate each other's races to death, all stick together in destroying us, while we fight amongst ourselves.

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wreckedcarzz 19 points 13 days ago

I was confused at the thumbnail, I mean wtf does Jizz In My Pants have to do with this?

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Lushed_Lungfish 6 points 13 days ago

Every time my welfare cheque comes I JIZZ IN MY PANTS!

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Grail 14 points 13 days ago

Paywall

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Malica 13 points 13 days ago

Yat they always insist they aren't racists

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ZILtoid1991 7 points 13 days ago

They want to sell the illusion that their racist welfare cuts are, in fact, colorblind, or at least to an outward audience. Even in cases when a certain welfare is more enjoyed by whites, such as disability in Hungary, as Fidesz made it harder to access to many disabled people, due to far-right bloggers between 2006-2010 told people, that "voivode and overweight Roma drug dealers" are pretending to be intellectually disabled and amputees, to get welfare money and disabled parking spots for their Mercedeses. Though some bloggers also went after neurodivergent people, and claimed they were pushed into intellectual labor, due to "DEI mandates" and the mothers of those people fucking the way to their children (yes, they plagiarized it from Forrest Gump, because fascists don't have imagination, as seen by the sheer amount of AI slop they pump out).

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QueenHawlSera 2 points 12 days ago

How do you pretend to be an amputee?

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ZILtoid1991 2 points 12 days ago

Don't remember, how the blogs tried to sold it exactly, but it worked so well, that the state still has to check amputees every year, just in case someone "lied about it".

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FatVegan 4 points 12 days ago

Which always weirds me out. Like if i were a racist, i would obviously believe this is right and good. So why do racists pretend they are not? Why fo they were masks on tgeir rallies?

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alcoholicorn 11 points 13 days ago

Paywall

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moldy_rice 14 points 13 days ago
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myyass 9 points 13 days ago

LOL... able bodied 35 year olds. Not in this economy. Between lack of healthcare, body damage from work or enlistment, and a satiating diet of food "products" to constant stress from all the economic crashes and disasters that happened yeah... Go fuck-a-bee cunts. We all paid into these funds while these lazy fucks say $175,000 a year isn't enough money for them to "work" a couple month year blowing smoke up everyone's ass. That's welfare fraud. Pay the leeches $7.25 an hour only for the hours they work. Filth.

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moldy_rice 3 points 13 days ago

Loads fine without JavaScript

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some_guy 7 points 13 days ago

As though half of all white people in Alabama aren't on food stamps…

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reader 4 points 13 days ago

adblock disabling spam

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LodeMike 3 points 13 days ago

The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh, who exists almost entirely as a Twitter troll at this point, raged that “black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent. But of course Republicans don’t have the balls to do this ad with ‘Shaniqua’ as the villain.”

Fucking idiot. There are ~4x the white people in the U.S. (>50%) compared to black people in the U.S. (<15%).

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Mulligrubs 3 points 13 days ago

Right-wingers mad about this, left-wingers mad about that.

Let's all agree that's the baseline, and not worth noting. This will save us all WEEKS over a lifetime.

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call_me_xale 49 points 13 days ago

I feel like left-wingers have legitimate concerns to be angry about: climate change, food scarcity, wealth inequality.

Right-wingers have to make up (or misattribute) their grievances.

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prole 9 points 13 days ago

This is dangerous thinking and one of the very reasons conservatives do shit like this. They want people to ignore both sides, when in reality the left's concerns are not only valid, they are in many cases literally existential.

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PattyMcB 2 points 13 days ago

I don't watch crap-able. Link to the ad?

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voidsignal -10 points 13 days ago

Fuck Brad (most of them)

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moldy_rice 7 points 13 days ago
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