TSA says officers must stand, chairs banned at airport checkpoints nationwide

12 days ago by return2ozma to c/workreform

"This welcome change reinforces both our security posture and our commitment to hospitality by having these officers on their feet and alert," a TSA spokesperson said.
givesomefucks 93 points 12 days ago

Anyone who thinks standing makes you more alert than sitting has never held a job that requires more than 5 minutes of standing still at once...

Or even looked at someone who has to stand still as part of their job duties.

You may look alert, but a huge chunk of your brain is devoted to how much it sucks to have to be standing.

Like, I've been a part of government security theater and we had to stand. But we just had metal detector wands, the little room with the one way mirrors next to us had half a dozen dudes with AR15s and body armor, they got chairs because they were the ones that had to be ready.

My only job if anything happened was to fall down so I wouldn't be hit when the guys on the other side of the glass opened fire.

We were just the bait/distraction

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bridgeenjoyer 37 points 12 days ago

Pilots and bus drivers should all be standing so we can Make sure theyre really working

Can these fucking boomers and their idiotic viewpoints die already?

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myyass 2 points 12 days ago

We must take it a step further, everyone must shit standing up.

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Unsealed9041 1 point 10 days ago

Trump does it, don't you want to make America great again?

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myyass 1 point 10 days ago

Did you mean Make America Shit Itself Again?

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nimble 87 points 12 days ago

"This welcome change reinforces both our security posture and our commitment to hospitality by having these officers on their feet and alert," a TSA spokesperson said in a statement to ABC News.

Spoken by someone who has never flown commercial. TSA aren't there to welcome you but if we're going to pretend that the bored look of monotony is "hospitality" then id rather be welcomed by someone who is able to sit if they need or want to.

Not to mention there already was a TSA shortage earlier this year so you're making the job even less tolerable. Whole thing looks and smells like shit

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RememberTheApollo_ 2 points 11 days ago

Spoken by someone who sits on their ass in a chair all day.

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LibertyLizard 76 points 12 days ago

TSA should be abolished.

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Steve 48 points 12 days ago

Every time it comes up I have to remind people TSA has never caught a terrorist.
Some were caught before getting to TSA, or after passing the TSA screening, but never by TSA itself.

Some say we need security screening at airports. Yes! We had it before TSA. Usually run by the airport itself; An x-ray for bags, and a metal detector for people. It' wasn't limited to people with tickets, everyone could go through. It was basically just a gun check. Much faster and less invasive than what TSA does. And this is the important part: It was at least as effective at catching terrorists!

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cloudshouter 4 points 11 days ago

The most effective check on airplane nonsense aside from the simple X-ray/metal detector for guns are the passengers. Back when hijackings were in fashion and again today it’s not the TSA strip searching kids and wiping down grandmas for bomb residue. It’s the agreement between a bunch of strangers that if someone acts a fool they get their teeth kicked in and duck taped to a chair.

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Steve 4 points 11 days ago

I remember that. When hijackings were common, everyone knew to sit tight, follow directions, and it would be fine in the end. Then 9/11 changed that calculus. Now every passenger will immediately fight for/with their lives to stop it.

That, and the hardened cockpit door you can't even shoot your way into anymore.

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ryathal 1 point 10 days ago

The reinforced door on airplanes is also probably the only thing really needed. It's now nearly impossible to actually hijack a plane without tools that are hard to smuggle on to a plane.

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meat 17 points 12 days ago

"MetaCops aren't allowed to lean against their Unit—makes them look lazy and weak. They can almost lean, look like they're leaning, they can even brandish a big leaning-against-the-car 'tude like this particular individual, but they can't lean."

Snow Crash

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vinceman 6 points 12 days ago

Mark Zuckerbergs favorite book, guy must have absolutely dogshit reading comprehension

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FunStuffIsFun 4 points 11 days ago

Been meaning to read that book.

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madmantis24 3 points 11 days ago

It's pretty good but there's one particular scene late in the book I legitimately questioned

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riskable 41 points 12 days ago

Trump administration ruins yet another chairished tradition.

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Sanguine 34 points 12 days ago

Management and old people think if you got time to lean you got time to clean. Some take it as a personal insult that you would dare take a load off while checking out customers at a register or looking something up at a computer.

Stools (at minimum) should be provided at all workstations.

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ToiletFlushShowerScream 30 points 12 days ago

And when the travelers could be inconvenienced no further, the only thing left was to torture their own agents.

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Malica 28 points 12 days ago

As someone with back problems, I've never understood the insistence on everyone standing. Check out people, this kind of stuff, fucking everywhere. This is also why cruelty is the point.

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BarneyPiccolo 11 points 12 days ago

Every grocery store in my area has their cashier's standing up, except Aldi, they have chairs for their cashier's.

And of course their service is awful! JK, it's perfectly fine! Publix cashiers aren't any better because they can stand. It's not like they have to run around or anything. They're stuck in the same spot for hours at a time. Why can't they sit? I wouldn't even notice if they didn't have legs. Who cares? Let them sit.

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DarkFuture 21 points 11 days ago

Suffering is a virtue in the good ol' US of A.

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RememberTheApollo_ 21 points 11 days ago

Trying to get rid of them and increase turnover by making the job uncomfortable? Drive older ones off the payroll to cut costs?

I’m sure making people uncomfortable will do wonders for their ability to pay attention to their job.

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spacegoat 18 points 12 days ago

Some political appointee or SES with a micropenis got upset that the TSA officer didn’t stand and salute while checking their ID

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tea_n_typewriters 7 points 12 days ago

Did you know someone in SES is the equivalent of a flag officer? If you forget, don’t worry. They’ll remind you.

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crusa187 16 points 12 days ago

Terrible idea for a jobs program to begin with. Security theatre, always has been. Just do away with the whole thing and go back to regular old metal detectors, it’s proven more effective and far more affordable ($40T debt and rising thanks to no tax only spend repugnantcon policy).

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Imgonnatrythis 15 points 11 days ago

Anything that makes this less attractive as a job is a good thing. Fuck these thugs. What have they done for you? Abolish the Tsa and return this money to the taxpayers or use it for good.

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ScoffingLizard 4 points 11 days ago

They kept me from gettimg on my flight just to be assholes, and after being rerouted around the country, I never could get home. Someome had to drive to another large city to get me. It was awful.

Just to be a dick.

But let's not normalize cruelty for the sake of it.

How about ICE has to stand and walk everywhere? I'd hate for them to be less alert.

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Wildmimic 14 points 12 days ago

Lol make Orange Mussolini stand all day until his joints swell up to the size of basketballs, because he falls asleep when sitting

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core 9 points 11 days ago

Can't wait for the disability lawsuits

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schipelblorp 9 points 12 days ago

I feel... confusion.

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Bristlecone 7 points 12 days ago

Right wing cruelty. It is it's own reward for them

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frustrated_phagocytosis 9 points 12 days ago

You'll need to give them something to stand on and they'll need way more breaks than if they were sitting. The only way I see this working is if the ID checkers and carry on bin people rotate around so no one is standing at a booth for hours at a time.

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Perky 16 points 12 days ago

Have you considered that instead of giving them more breaks, we could simply wait until they develop back problems, fire them, and hire some new losers desperate for literally any job?

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ScoffingLizard 4 points 11 days ago

Yeah, use them up and then hire younger people. That's how they do in my industry.

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Triumph 8 points 12 days ago

Cool. Let them suffer.

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tate 5 points 12 days ago

These people have the power to make everyone around them suffer. Do NOT make their job less pleasant!

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vantablack 7 points 11 days ago

fuck the Trans Sexual Assaulters

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pega_sus 3 points 11 days ago

Provision L3

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kerrigan778 -3 points 11 days ago

Hi, it sounds like in an attempt to disparage the TSA you're awkwardly trying to use trans and an outdated term for trans people that is now borderline at best as an insult.

Yeah don't do that.

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tquid 13 points 11 days ago

I think the point here is bad treatment of trans people by the TSA.

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vantablack 9 points 11 days ago

yep this

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kerrigan778 6 points 11 days ago

That'd make a lot more sense actually

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Raiderkev 6 points 10 days ago

Another stupid fucking thing from these stupid fucking people. I'm so over it. I've worked a job where I was on my feet all day. That shit sucked. Like can I get a chair for when it's slow? What?! If ya got time to lean you got time to clean. Fuck off.

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melsaskca 6 points 11 days ago

One week sitting is good for you, the next week it ain't, depending on feelz of the bosses.

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5318008 5 points 11 days ago

It's crazy how bad most people are at thinking of rules that aren't 100% of something.

"Always sitting" is a bad rule. "Always standing" is a bad rule. But authoritarians can't seem to accept any rule that allows choice, nuance, or moderation. And most people just kind of.. accept that.

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CultLeader4Hire 2 points 11 days ago

All the TSA agents except the one running the Xray screening are usually standing already

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fyzzlefry 1 point 11 days ago

Not at PDX

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LovableSidekick 1 point 11 days ago

"Ain't nobody ever caught a perp sittin' down."

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