Commie Blocs

5 days ago by ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to c/memes

UnderpantsWeevil 81 points 5 days ago

identical apartments

Under Communism, we were forced by the government to live in Poor People Houses. It was illegal to tip your landlords. If you updated your wallpaper, the local Commissar would murder your first-born child and eat your dog.

Incredible.

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deathmetaldawgy 18 points 4 days ago

Careful, If the communists are asian, white liberals will fully believe they’re open dog/cat eaters because they already believe that. Joe himself prob believes that asian people eat babies until they come on down to Californ-i-a and get nice big ol fake titties

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UnderpantsWeevil 10 points 3 days ago

They don't even have to be communists, per say. Just being Asian and unaligned is enough. Or Haitian, for that matter.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 54 points 5 days ago

Ever heard of those folks they found in the wild parts of Russia in the late 70s who never even realized the Second World War happened?

Fucking life goals there

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MaxLemminist 32 points 5 days ago

IDK

They wore clothes woven from homegrown hemp, used birch bark for shoes, and routinely faced near-starvation (the mother, Akulina, starved to death during a crop failure in 1961).

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod -8 points 5 days ago

I’ll take my chances. Plus those clothes and shoes sound durable and cheap.

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MaxLemminist 15 points 4 days ago

Nobody's stopping you, or Darwin

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degen 15 points 5 days ago

Flip side to the dudes in the Pacific who were still hunkered down

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GarboDog 53 points 4 days ago

Honestly, the “commie blocks” are really good idea and should be built more often in areas with high homelessness and housing issues. Why should US taxes go to blowing up elementary schools/other people’s homes when it can go towards building homes and helping others in need?

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gwl 13 points 4 days ago

why

The capitalist military industrial complex

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GarboDog 3 points 2 days ago

Ooh fair enough lol

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beejboytyson -3 points 4 days ago

We have those, they're called projects.

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anarchiddy 47 points 4 days ago

You mean those criminally underfunded, means-tested and over-policed apartment blocks in red-lined cities?

Crazy that those weren't as effective as rhe communist housing initiatives

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FlyingCircus 33 points 4 days ago

The ones built on polluted land no one else wants, that have zero amenities nearby, leading to food deserts and lack of healthcare, and that have zero green spaces nearby? Yeah those resemble Soviet block housing in the same way a fart smells like a rose.

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ZMoney 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah the ones chosen for their similarity to the Moscow cityscape to be sprayed with radioactive cadmium to test the effects of nuclear fallout!

https://proteanmag.com/...

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manuallybreathing 39 points 4 days ago

The government of the PRC is planning to build 200,000 new public housing appartments in hongkong, tyranny i tells ya

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calmblue75 30 points 4 days ago

But at what cost???

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eldavi 24 points 4 days ago

why won't something think of the children investors!!!???

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KimBongUn420 6 points 3 days ago

Time for the CIA to activate the student riots one more time

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gnate 19 points 5 days ago

To be fair, being good enough isn't the only reason for something to be in current use.

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UpAndAtThem 10 points 4 days ago

For real. It's like living in a very old NYC apartment building and being like "It's still standing, truly a testament to the politics of the robber barrons who built it!"

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XiJinpingStanAccount 21 points 4 days ago

What do you actually know about soviet housing? I've done significant academic research on the topic. It's not just a simple "they built a certain type of building". The reason they all look so similar is that their construction method was pre-fab concrete panels. It was a revolutionary technology at the time, and allowed them to solve their housing crisis. They were called "Khrushchyovka" after whom you can guess. He made it his mission to solve the Soviet Housing crisis when he took over and was largely successful.

You have to keep in mind the historical context. The people moving into these buildings were coming from a pre-industrial society where they commonly had so electricity, dirt floors, and no insulation. These were a significant upgrade from the pre-USSR constructions. They started construction in the 1940s, and really took off in the 50s.

I think the main takeaways from them shouldn't be "We should build these exact things". and I don't think that's what people who support them are advocating for. I think what they are trying to point out is that if you standardize production, and use economies of scale, it is entirely possible to build tons of housing quickly and cheaply. And considering the way housing prices look these days I'd expect that to be an idea anyone can get behind.

If you are interested here is an article about how modern China is using similar practices: https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/14/17/10695

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heartSagan5 12 points 4 days ago

Why does it suggest liberals are scared of this? Aren't they okay with Projects for affordable housing? So liberals aren't communists? Then, why are the red hat clowns so grumpy?

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GeneralEmergency -4 points 4 days ago
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HCSOThrowaway -5 points 3 days ago

Why does it suggest liberals are scared of this?

Because OP wants to straw-man for clout.

Aren’t they okay with Projects for affordable housing?

Yes, an overwhelming majority of liberals are in favor of that.

So liberals aren’t communists?

No. Also I'm not sure why you're asking this question.

Then, why are the red hat clowns so grumpy?

I'm also not sure why you're asking this, but:

Red hats will get grumpy about virtually anything because it helps motivate their perpetually angry and afraid base; one of the defining segments of the deeply conservative mindset is that potent mix of fear and anger.

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m532 3 points 2 days ago

you described radlibs very well

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HCSOThrowaway 0 points 13 hours ago

If most liberals are "radlibs," then it's just "liberals."

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CptOblivius -13 points 4 days ago
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elixir_fan 25 points 4 days ago

We have a very simple purity test, don't support genocide or wars on the global south and we have no issue with you. If you can't agree on that much then there's no reason why we should accommodate you.

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CptOblivius -16 points 4 days ago

I don't either but I'm not going to aid fascists by out casting moderates. You can do that and reap what you sow.

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5318008 17 points 4 days ago

Okay, so a person says

We have a very simple purity test, don't support genocide or wars on the global south and we have no issue with you.

and then, in the course of responding to them, you write,

I'm not going to aid fascists by out casting moderates. You can do that and reap what you sow.

What moderates are being outcast by the proposed purity test? Is supporting half of the genocide moderate enough to be included? Is supporting half of the proxy wars moderate enough to be included? Which people, holding pro-genocide attitudes, do you think we should be trying to include, to beat the fascists?

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BrainInABox 13 points 3 days ago

"Moderate" genocide.

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Buhbyelittlegumshoe 10 points 3 days ago

The fascists and the ‘moderates’ will bridge the gap. Think of the German SDP working with the Freikorps. They come from the same money.

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elixir_fan 9 points 4 days ago

If people are okay with, say, me and my family being genocided just because of where we were born, why should I care whether they identify as moderate or whatever else? Again, don't agree with genocide and wars on our countries and you're welcome. It's not that much to ask lmao.

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BanMeFromPosting 6 points 3 days ago

Nothing moderate about the democrats. They're fascists buddy.

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NotASharkInAManSuit 16 points 4 days ago

Liberals are conservatives, they are capitalist authoritarians, you understand that right?

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CptOblivius -21 points 4 days ago

Liberals are center right to center left depending on the degree. Liberals are not conservatives. You are confusing left and right, which is more defined. Liberals are not routinely labeled as authoritarian. Authoritarianism can happen in any political direction but routinely not associated which current western liberalism.

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yogthos 19 points 4 days ago path: 0 26232555 26233953 26235199 26235513 26235697, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 6
yogthos 11 points 4 days ago

keep malding fash

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BillCheddar 11 points 3 days ago

The hardest part about getting anything done in America is that every decision has to be approved by people who aren't going to use the solution anyway.

School funding is decided by people who either don't have school-aged children or who send their kids to private schools. Social Security laws -- which only change to affect future generations of retirees, not current and soon-to retirees -- are decided by retirees.

And so, the ability to put up large apartment complexes (and let's make them nicer and include proper green space and all that) is decided by people who won't live there and who aren't going to walk, bike, or drive to the place where we would build the goddamn housing in the first place.

That's the part that riles me up the most: the number of people who will vote to stop someone else from getting something they need, because the voter doesn't agree with the choice or the outcome. Like, if we could affordably build houses for everyone, Karen P Asshat would vote yes. But ugly apartments? With all the apartment people living there? She votes no.

I've been in politics 35 years now and i have no answer for how to fix that. America is a nation of cockblockers, fundamentally.

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AdolfSchmitler 5 points 3 days ago

Unless it's a data center, those seem to he pretty streamlined at getting approved and built.

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AdolfSchmitler 10 points 3 days ago

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Squirrelknight 11 points 3 days ago

These apartments had working plumbing, something most of the people moving into them at the time had never had before. It was a huge step up to most people, regardless of how ugly the buildings look.

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CyroSignal 6 points 4 days ago

I'm just here for the comments...

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DudleyMason 5 points 2 days ago

But how are landlords supposed to extort a living if there's plentiful government built housing? Did you monsters even think about your local landleech? They might have to go get jobs if we build thousands of identical apartments all over the country and made them available for 2-3% of average incomes.

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EmmiLime 4 points 2 days ago

I always tip my landlord. After all he's doing a good job fixing the leaks and molding. (Okay he hasn't done it in decades but he said "I will so stop asking and I am increasing rent by 3 times!" so he's still going to do it!)

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shuvit 1 point 4 days ago

Remember when Jane Byrne tried to vacation at Cabrini? Good times.

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dektep 1 point 4 days ago

wouldn’t liberals approve of this?

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 10 points 4 days ago

No, homelessness is for them a low, low price for having capitalism.

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frigge 9 points 4 days ago

homelessness is not a price to pay. It is a tool because it incentivises people to subject themselves to wage labour

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 5 points 3 days ago

Yes it is, but liberals don't think of it like that. For them the homelessness is the outcome of personal choices meaning that even those that genuinly pity the homeless people will still consider them as victims of their own vices instead of the system that engineered the entire problem as part of the class war they probably hear about but refuse to consider.

They also probably heard and maybe even believe that the socialist states got rid of the problem, but again, never think it's because under socialism homelessness is not a class domination enforcement tool but a logistic problem. For them it's because the homeless were forced (again, libs think a lot of the homelessness is voluntary) to live in barrack, psychiatric hospital, prison, gulag etc. etc. A price for having freedoms especially that a lib will never think they will have to pay that price someday, right? They are not gamblers/drunks/junkies etc, right?

Housing people is also a taboo topic because of how libs approach to concept of welfare in general, if the lib struggle to pay the rent and has no hope of ever buying their own home, how in the hell can anyone from "undeserving self-inflicted" pariah group just recive one?

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zbyte64 4 points 4 days ago

Like they overwhelmingly approve of universal health care but only the "socialist" candidates seem to make part of their platform?

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chewypoops 0 points 4 days ago path: 0 26232273, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 3
yogthos 9 points 4 days ago path: 0 26232273 26234676, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 2
chewypoops 0 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I figuredy sarcasm was obvious here given what this thread is about, but I forgot about the terminally online Lemmy users who always choose the interpretation they can get the most mad about.

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BanMeFromPosting 3 points 3 days ago

I think you forgot lemmy is full of people who would write what you write in full seriousness.

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Unpigged -2 points 4 days ago
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yogthos 12 points 4 days ago

The whole >90% of territory never saw a foot of German soldier was not where most of the destroyed urban housing stock stood. The war destroyed over 1,700 towns and 70,000 villages, which was roughly half the urban housing stock in the most populated and industrial regions, and left about 25 million people homeless.

Many houses were built by workers in their spare time after work, on a land granted by the state and using construction materials provided by the factory or plant they worked at, but that was a supplement to state reconstruction, not proof that war ruin was secondary.

The barracks aging is precisely what created the need for khrushchevkas in late 50s and early 60s onwards. Then brezhnevki with some improvements over bare minimal comfort of previous gen, and eventually from 70s onwards to the end of soviets the massive prefab took hold. There were countless experimental projects at different times and in different configurations, from 3 storey alpha builds of Khrushchevkas to Kyiv’s Podil 4 blocks project of late 80s, but all of it was a response to the war-created housing deficit, not a response to industrialization alone as you falsely claim.

Aggressive industrialization wasn’t the fundamental explanation for the scale and duration of the postwar housing construction program. Wartime destruction was the main driver.

It really helps to actually learn about the subjects before you start braying about them.

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Unpigged -3 points 4 days ago
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dessalines 8 points 4 days ago

This is completely incorrect.

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Edie 8 points 4 days ago

Even if it’s a meme, and it rips the piss out of liberals or whatever, such mistakes make them easy target and work only in echo chambers

That would require liberals to read so they know what you just said. Quite rare.

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Unpigged -3 points 4 days ago

If those kids could read.jpg?

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Edie 7 points 4 days ago

They can, they just dont. certainly not something that might make them understand the conditions inside the Soviet Union.

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Unpigged -4 points 4 days ago

Oh and on the other hand, British mass social housing for working class emerged because of King George's WW1 realization that better fed and kept humans give more durable cannon fodder, after comparing British and German soldiers. At crown's command, no socialism required.

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Nalivai -2 points 4 days ago

It's so incredibly clear when someone talks about soviet housing without setting a foor in one. You can say a lot about those, but saying the word quality about them will be actually a crime. For example, mine had a hole between the panels big enough, you could put your hand out and grab loose concrete from the wall. It was 4th floor. My mom had to work 15 years without changing jobs to be able to get one.

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whalesnrainbows 9 points 3 days ago

The exact context in which the word “quality” was used, since you seem to have glossed over it was:

they were made with enough quality that they are still used today

No one said that these are high quality homes. They said that the caliber of build was strong enough to still be inhabitable 80ish years later.

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Nalivai -2 points 3 days ago

Believe you me, they are used today not by choice. You need to stretch the definition of inhabitable significantly to include 80 years old mass construction buildings in it. Unless those Theseus shipped over the decades, but even then. Buildings from ancient Rome still standing today, it's really not that big of a bragging rights to have some of the homes be technically upright after 80 years.
Ironically, the only buildings from post-war era that survived in my hometown are only those that were built by Germans as part of the reparations. Make of that what you will.

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whalesnrainbows 5 points 3 days ago

No one said they were being used by choice. The very reason behind their original purpose was precisely because people didn’t have anywhere else to live, not because they thought people would genuinely choose to live there over a normal home.

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Nalivai -1 points 3 days ago

The whole premise of the meme is that we should be in awe how amazing commyblocks are, and how greatly they survive even to this days.
The reality, that nobody disagrees with, is that post-war USSR very quickly built a bunch of cheap housing that was planned to be gradually replaced by a more nicely built ones, and a lot of them weren't. This isn't controversial, and not worth the meme. So the meme stretches this to mean something else.

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protogen420 2 points 3 days ago

OP is a russian citizen

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EmmiLime 3 points 3 days ago

I think they're Canadian, or live there at least.

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protogen420 3 points 3 days ago

I remember yougthos sending a reply with an image russian passport (I think russian but not sure as I dont read any language tgat uses the cyrrillic script, it could have some other place that also uses the cyrillic script) at one point

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Widukin 1 point a day ago

I live in a communist block built in '89. The outer walls are 1m thick, while the inner walls are 50cm thick. I can't hear my neighbours, even if they're having a party. We even have a 7m long terrace. It's a nice enough appartment, especially since the city made a lot of green areas with plenty of trees, playgrounds, schools, shops, etc. Granted, the later were post-communist additions, but it's still a nice place to live. And yes, I'm aware of the state of most of these commieblocks, I'm just saying it's also possible to have a nice "communist" apartments as well. We had to work abroad for 4 years to be able to pay for it, but we could do it without taking on a mortgage for 30 years. Would I rather live in a house with a garden than in a flat? Sure. Would I rather live in a house with a garden while paying a huge mortgage for 30 years? Absolutely not.

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HCSOThrowaway -5 points 3 days ago

Straw Man : Annihilated

You picked one of the best parts about the USSR that 90% of liberals would agree was a good thing.

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EmmiLime 7 points 3 days ago

The liberals being banned here is proof of otherwise

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HCSOThrowaway 0 points 3 days ago

Liberals that bother to engage with lemmy.ml are a pretty small subsection of them, but fair enough:

What are they getting banned for? I haven't been banned (yet).

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EmmiLime 7 points 3 days ago

What are they getting banned for?

For being reactionary bigots who spout western propaganda while justifying voting for genocide and so forth.

I haven’t been banned (yet).

You won't be banned if you don't start acting reactionary and start blurting out racist and xenophobic shit.

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HCSOThrowaway 0 points 2 days ago

Can't help but notice you've decided to move on from the conversation but your peers are applauding you anyway.

If you're just taking a bit to think about it, fair enough, but I run into bad-faith arguing trolls who just pop smoke at the first sign of pointed questions too many times to not wonder if you're one of them.

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HCSOThrowaway -4 points 3 days ago

I can't tell if you're pulling my leg or just confused.

Your assertion is that people being bigots and/or pro-genocide is proof they don't like Khrushchevkas?

Can you walk me through your logic there? Because it makes zero sense to me.

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gollumsfish -13 points 4 days ago

The Soviet onion was horrible, but those are the few quite good things.

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BanMeFromPosting 24 points 4 days ago

Stalin ate all the onions with a comically large spoon, except for one. Sadly the last onion wasn't very good.

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FatherPeanut 1 point 4 days ago

The Soviet Onion...

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gollumsfish -2 points 4 days ago

That explains the famine

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DangerNooble 19 points 4 days ago

What would you say the difference is between soviet and western onions?

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saturn57 15 points 4 days ago

The Soviet one is when no iPhone or something

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calmblue75 8 points 4 days ago

soviet onion is RED

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gollumsfish 4 points 4 days ago

Soviet onions belong to us all, western onions only to a few, obviously

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elixir_fan 3 points 4 days ago

Well, if you want to talk about some Soviet vegetables, we can.

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RiverRock 1 point 4 days ago
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Malica -13 points 5 days ago

Lol I wouldn't brag on the blocs comrade, there are many problems with them.

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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 39 points 4 days ago

despite all their issues, they are preferable to homelessness

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Malica 9 points 4 days ago

Absolutely

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deathmetaldawgy 12 points 4 days ago

People like you are being willfully stupid, imo. Why wouldn’t you, “comrade”, “brag on the blocs”? What’s not to brag about effectively working at solving homelessness in the 50s? That you think it looks ugly? You ever been to America buddy?

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yogthos 37 points 5 days ago path: 0 26217445 26217717, hotness: undefined, score: 37, children: 6
pineapplelover 9 points 4 days ago

During great depression, they were called Hoovervilles. I say we bring it back, call them Trumpvilles

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kestrel7_7 7 points 4 days ago

Looking at old pics of Hoovervilles is depressing. They were so much nicer than modern homeless encampments. I’m talking real wooden cabins, built on a grid, with stoves/chimneys, and even mailboxes/actual mail service. People who were homeless during the Great Depression were better off than people who are homeless now, because the larger community tolerated them rather than constantly sweeping them.

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Malica -14 points 5 days ago

One has nothing to do with the other? I thought we were talking about blocs.

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yogthos 18 points 5 days ago

I mean, either you have a state that actually spend the resources to house people, or you get that.

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culprit 8 points 4 days ago

the Faircloth Limit as an amendment to the Housing Act of 1937, which limited funding for the construction or operation of all units to the total number of units as of October 1, 1999 and repealed a rule that required one for one replacement of demolished housing units.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

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SCmSTR -4 points 4 days ago

Nah this is praise lesser evils time

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Oppopity 29 points 5 days ago

Yeah no shit. Literally everything has ups and downs. The USSR just got through a world war against a power that was trying to genocide and colonise their land. Entire cities were destroyed. Millions were made homeless. Commie blocks were a good thing and yet they're shat on. Like what else were they meant to do?

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EmmiLime 14 points 5 days ago

How so?

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Malica 10 points 5 days ago

Maybe I'm just bitter about the boatload of money I paid for repairs only for the fucking elevator to work only 3 months of the year. I was on floor 13. I remember similar complaints from others.

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AceOnTrack -8 points 4 days ago

Vast majority of commie blocs don't stand up today. Those who still do are incredibly riddled with issues.

They were cheaply built designed to keep the workforce next to the factories and nothing else. Living in them is miserable.

The "commie blocs" you see today for the vast majority were built after communism ended.

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EmmiLime 11 points 4 days ago

Vast majority of commie blocs don’t stand up today. Those who still do are incredibly riddled with issues.

So it's an issue from the absence of communism.

They were cheaply built designed to keep the workforce next to the factories and nothing else. Living in them is miserable.

As opposed to living out in the street? In tent cities?

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AceOnTrack -13 points 4 days ago

So it's an issue from the absence of communism

Uh, no? These were shit during communism too. There was basically no maintenance or planning, the materials used were garbage.

As opposed to living out in the street? In tent cities?

As opposed to a properly built housing a factory worker could afford.

Like I get it y'all really love stacking humans in oversized rabbit hutches but the commie blocks were terrible, stop using them as an example.

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half_built_pyramids -15 points 5 days ago

Ussr can do good thing. Can also do bad thing.

Problem with bad things, like bad arguments, lack thought or think about self. Also call self reflection.

Ask self, apartments good, yes. Ask self, stalin good, on whole probably not. Ask self, authoritarianism good, on whole no is bad. Ask self, shit posting on lemmy good, depends.

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yogthos 26 points 5 days ago

The term authoritarianism is utterly meaningless because all governments rely on coercion to maintain their authority. The state is fundamentally an instrument that’s used by the ruling class to maintain its dominance. The whole notion that political systems can be neatly categorized into authoritarian or democratic binaries is deeply infantile.

The reality is that every government derives its authority from its monopoly on legal violence. The ability to enforce laws, suppress dissent, and maintain order is derived from control over police, military, and judicial systems. Whether a government is labelled authoritarian or democratic, the fundamental basis of its power lies here. Therefore, the only meaningful questions to ask are which class interests it represents, and to what extent can it be held accountable to them.

What ultimately matters is which class controls the institutions of state violence. In capitalist democracies, the government represent the interests of the economic elites who fund political campaigns, own media outlets, and control key industries. Western public lacks the mechanisms necessary to hold the government to account, and the ruling class is disconnected from the broader population. That’s precisely what’s driving political discontent all across western sphere today.

Ask yourself is guzzling western propaganda uncritically good, on the whole no is bad.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 10 points 4 days ago

The term authoritarianism is utterly meaningless because all governments rely on coercion to maintain their authority. The state is fundamentally an instrument that’s used by the ruling class to maintain its dominance. The whole notion that political systems can be neatly categorized into authoritarian or democratic binaries is deeply infantile.

The reality is that every government derives its authority from its monopoly on legal violence. The ability to enforce laws, suppress dissent, and maintain order is derived from control over police, military, and judicial systems. Whether a government is labelled authoritarian or democratic, the fundamental basis of its power lies here. Therefore, the only meaningful questions to ask are which class interests it represents, and to what extent can it be held accountable to them.

I honestly think we should have a bot where anytime someone says the word authoritarian it just spits this out at them.

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yogthos 8 points 4 days ago

Seriously, I find there are just a handful of tropes libs regurgitate like trained parrots. You really can just have a templated response to them.

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defaultusername -5 points 5 days ago

Every government is authoritarian, so the logical solution would be to abolish government altogether.

Signed,
An anarchist

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dessalines 18 points 5 days ago

Capitalists aren't going to let you abolish their rule without an organized violence that they will tell others is "authoritarian".

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defaultusername -3 points 4 days ago

You mean a revolution? In that case, I can agree with all but the very last word.

"Authoritarian" is (generally speaking) a word used to describe governments' usage of violence or other means to either establish or maintain rule over their populace.

The capitalist class (or, more generally speaking speaking, the powerful elite) will more often use terms like "barbarians," "rioters," or similar language. They will reserve the word "authoritarian" as a separate method of propaganda to go to war with countries they want to steal natural resources from or to otherwise invade to expand their empire, though I'm not a historian by any means, so the idea of "regieme change" might be a bit newer than I'm thinking.

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deathmetaldawgy 7 points 4 days ago

How are you gonna defend your country from fascism if you won’t express authority on hostile invasions? You think Hitler was defeated by just chillin and giving up authority? I gotta stop taking the bait.

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defaultusername -5 points 4 days ago

Going to copy paste my previous response:

With weapons, voluntary training programs (both in terms of participation and guidance), and organization.

If some group of bad actors try to coup your community, you don't just lie back and take it.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 7 points 4 days ago

Step 1: Abolish Government

Step 2: Establish absolutely no institutional infrastucture to ensure nobody else makes a new government. Because that would be authoritatian.

Step 3: Someone makes another government by establishing a monopoly on violence.

Step 4: Abolish Government... wait what?

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defaultusername -6 points 4 days ago

Straw man
noun

  • An argument or opponent set up so as to be easily refuted or defeated.
  • A doll or scarecrow (particularly one stuffed with straw).
  • An insubstantial concept, idea, endeavor or argument, particularly one deliberately set up to be weakly supported, so that it can be easily knocked down; especially to impugn the strength of any related thing or idea.
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yogthos 7 points 5 days ago

How's that working out for y'all?

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BrainInABox 6 points 4 days ago

Which the government's supporters will promptly call you authoritarian for doing.

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AntiOutsideAktion 15 points 5 days ago

Why are you writing like that? I looked at your profile; you've shown in other places you can write a coherent sentence. So is this some kind of affectation? What are you trying to convey by pretending to be illiterate?

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EmmiLime 12 points 5 days ago

Ask self, authoritarianism good, on whole no is bad. Ask self, shit posting on lemmy good, depends.

name a non-authoritarian country

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m532 8 points 5 days ago

What would the absence of 'authoritarianism' be called?

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Fleppensteijn -20 points 4 days ago

It just looks like ugliness is the point. Grow some fruit trees or community gardens or something so we don't need to be surrounded by concrete and empty patches of grass.

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FatherPeanut 6 points 4 days ago

Call me crazy, but I've had this thought about a lot of "boring" architecture. Why don't we just say it's an open graffiti spot, so that these large boring walls turn into something colorful on the outside? It's most likely only gonna be as high as you can get a ladder, but I feel that's better than nothing. Some people will certainly spray profanities on it, but graffiti spots already exist in some recreational areas, and those bits tend to get sprayed over by someone else, whereas more beautiful sections tend to remain far longer without being touched.

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UpAndAtThem 9 points 4 days ago

Everything is better with murals. Also plants, lots of plants.

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weirdcarrotmonster 5 points 3 days ago

IDK about "open" spots, but many boring/ugly buildings actually get murals painted on them officially.

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Fleppensteijn -3 points 4 days ago

I don't care about the graffiti, I wish those ugly walls weren't visible at all. Give me some green space

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UpAndAtThem -7 points 4 days ago

Yeah the soviet block housing is architecturally DEPRESSING. Not that they are the only ones who built joyless prison boxes.

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calmblue75 13 points 4 days ago

You just compared people's houses to prisons. I hope you didn't mean it that way.

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UpAndAtThem -6 points 4 days ago

When it's designed for pure efficiency, housing often starts to take on a more prison-like architectural style. After all that's how they design prisons as well, just on a much more brutal level. It's good that post-war civilians were saved from homelessness, but it's not really an architectural style to emulate, and the fact that they're still around isn't a virtue in its own right.

I'm not saying the people who live there are in prison, but rather that it's a bleak and inhumane way to design things. You see the same mindset in the design of many overpriced condo blocks in the US, they just dress it up with bigger windows, as well as kitchen islands, Murphy beds and other glitsy bullshit.

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deathmetaldawgy 11 points 4 days ago

How is it bleak and inhumane to build free, strong, effective houses? HAVE YOU SEEN MODERN APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN USA?! I feel like I’m going crazy. The only people that like those new fuck ugly “mixed use” developments is rich old smarmy people who’s family left their home town 20 years ago. And they have the worst fucking interior taste I’ve ever seen it’s all white and sanitized and they got nothing on the shelves or walls. I don’t wanna hear shit from Americas about “inhumane design.” My house is sided with fucking asbestos.

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Fleppensteijn -8 points 4 days ago
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gualudengren 16 points 4 days ago

why is the outside so neglected?

I wonder why the Soviets stopped tending to their infrastructure around 1991 surely nothing happened around that time?!?!

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Fleppensteijn -8 points 4 days ago

So you think they just came in and bulldozed everything? If they hadn't done anything since then, it would look nicer

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UpAndAtThem -34 points 5 days ago

Now with suicide nets!

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Fancy_Gecko 21 points 5 days ago

projection

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trainsrkool 18 points 5 days ago

oh boy liberal world comin out strong with the RuZziA BaD trope 🤣

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ceenote 14 points 5 days ago

As one would expect in a capitalist oligarchy.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 13 points 4 days ago path: 0 26216534 26223224, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 0
ZeroHora 12 points 5 days ago

What this have anything to do with the meme?

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4am 10 points 4 days ago

I thought that was the China Foxconn propaganda: “they work 23 hour days and they are all 8 years old and they had to put suicide nets on the buildings because they try to flee out the windows from the men with whips like rats from a sinking ship and their skin rots off from chemical exposure because China man too stupid for safety gear and too cheap, all money in communist society goes to the bosses and the elites while the people starve, anyway they built ghost cities for show and they’ll be BANKRUPT AND GONE in 10 years time” he confidently posted from the west

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