Dude, just voting for the lesser evil is good.

Like what do people want, the worse option just because fuck it? Makes no goddamn sense. Yes we all are voting for the lesser evil, that's how politics works. It's all varying degrees of evil and lots of shades of gray.

To be fair, there is some black and white in it. It's pretty easy to say rounding up people based on how they look and putting them in concentration camps is BAD but apparently some people in our society are blind to that reality or (realistically) they're bad people in their souls too.

I can't imagine ever working for or wanting to work for ICE. These people are broken individuals who have embraced bullying and hate as their core identity. Fuck all of them.

Dems arent "good", Democratic socialists are actually keeping their promises, so vote for them if you have one in your area. But if you can't tell that the democratic party is a million times the lesser evil then FUCK YOU. I'm in Utah so this Is literally the first time I've even had a shot at getting a lefty elected and I'm STOKED, even though it will probably be the most moderate dem imaginable

Voting is for kicking the bad guy (it's always a guy eh) out.

You want change for the better? Get into politics.

Too late for that si now I hope all sane Americans vote blue.

Cheers from Europe

HEAR, HEAR

I guess you could say you really like the d.

Same here. Even here in a deep blue state where I’m confident in the sanity of most of my fellow citizens ….. it’s not worth the risk of them tampering with my vote.

It helps that my polling place is an easy walk so voting in person is mighty convenient

YES. When you see obvious right-wing talking points parroted in comments that are clearly intended to discourage and/or create fear in American voters who may be reading -- I've seen numerous low-key "it's not really safe to vote" thrown in now -- do two, maybe three things.

One, check the account age, and the time of the comment compared to your time zone. Not every bogus comment comes out of Eastern Europe, but a number of them do, they start and stop commenting at odd hours, and it's something that you'll note as you look deeper into suspect comments.

Two, point them out. Take the time to throw out a sentence or two that stops the next reader. You can look at my account history if you'd like to see how I do it. I often write long ones if I'm in the mood, but short ones are even more effective. All you need is a simple "Two day old doomer account. Blocked." It gets the message across.

Three, if you don't feel like arguing with bullshit artists who come back with lies pulled out of their ass in the fraction of the time and real effort it takes you to craft a simple truth, then block. If you really piss them off they'll come back with alts, and of course prepare to be downvoted, but usually it shuts them up.

For as many of us voting Americans who deeply care about our country and are still brave enough to be online right now, you will be doing us all a service, as well as pointing out the form for those whose country the firehose of oligarch propaganda gets aimed at next.

Have you seen a rabid coyote desperately trying to fight with itself? Is there anything you can do to help?

That would be election interference unfortunately.

But you can still make sure the right-wing populist disease is contained to the US and doesn't spread to your country

He's a symptom of people not voting. VOTE.

I think you're slightly naive in thinking shame effects them at all. We've had 6 years of this, it doesn't.

So far, voting has removed a grand total of 0. Call me a pessimist, but I’m betting it’ll stay at 0 for the foreseeable eternity.

I'll settle for calling you a willing liar. Contrary to all expectation, bloodless VOTING just kicked the very entrenched and very supported Viktor Orban out of Hungary this year. Do you need sources for that assertion, or no?

And stop suggesting it's not physically safe to vote. Most of us have early voting, voting by mail and/or drop box despite efforts to make those unavailable, and troublemakers physically cannot spread out that far and that thin across every local site every day of the next four weeks. If they try, it will be on Election Day: they simply do not have the resources to mount more of an armed offense.

In addition, it is illegal by federal law as well as many states law to police within a certain radius of polling sites, meaning that even if the feds try it via ICE, states can shut that shit down themselves, and likely will because all those phone calls and emails to our reps that people like you say are useless are actually NOT: our leaders are feeling the heat, and they're gonna feel it more. The rest of us are preparing: that shit will not succeed.

So you can just stop with the low key discouragement and fearmongering, right-wing talking point bullshit. It's absolute crap on every level, and you obviously don't live here and have never voted in the US or you'd know how it works and more importantly, which way the wind is blowing on the streets. Even South Carolina is in the mix to flip a Senate seat now, and I can't think of a harder red state. You're flatly wrong on all counts.

TL;DR: Anyone who wants these losers out of office, ignore this fearmongering doomerist shit from people who don't even live here. It's safe to vote -- and too unsafe NOT to vote.

My message is simple: VOTE.

Hungry just voted out an authoritarian this year. This documentary is about Serbia and they voted out their dictator too.

Bringing down a dictator

When what's currently happening is "a lot of bad things getting done", "nothing getting done" is an improvement.

American - can't disagree with any of that. We can't pull a "we're sorry" this time like we did after GWB (some of you are probably too young to remember that).

I will remind the rest of you that it can happen to you just as easily, maybe is already. Stay alert.

You're not wrong.

I remember 25 years ago, sitting out the national anthem at a college football game and some asshole from Texas threatening to knock me out. 9/11 had just happened and the country was neck deep in a performative patriotic mourning ritual.

But I knew where this was headed, and I wasn't wrong. Voting for the red team or the blue team doesn't matter. Voting gives us no meaningful power nationally.

There's still good happening on the local level, at least, but that doesn't make much difference for you all outside the US.

Couldn’t have written it any better. And the downvoting army is still too naive to see reality as it is.

Ok. But not voting will make it all worse.

So...like OP said........

Meh, people’s memory is short. After four or eight years of another Barack Obama type, the world will being seeing us in that light again. America will continue to be an economic and cultural powerhouse, because the rest of you are, by comparison, so listless and unproductive. Only China can compete economically, but they have zero cultural motion.

Without knowing what country you’re from, I can still guarantee that a shift towards the right wing fascist movement is a global problem. Whatever is happening in the US can easily happen elsewhere, and in some cases, has already started in Europe.

Not here in Australia. He's helped boost racism here.

Destructive mindset.

If people have their needs met there is less stress and trauma which also reduce risk for openness to destructive propaganda.

Less war mongering etc

You must come from a very privileged background to hold such an accelerationist mindset.

I love it when trolls beg your to block them like this. It’s like the gift wrapped itself!

Unfortunately the US has proven they can drag much of the world down with them.

I'm so excited that a pedophile messes up the world

There are words I am not allowed to express to you here but I wish you the best because you got it the worst to have such mindset :)

Yay,more death!

Eight day old account here to mindfuck the vote, lol. Blocked.

If this is a reference to...

Yeah, I will be voting straight R down the line.

WTF is wrong with you?