Gavin Newsom backs measure to kill the billionaire tax and ban future wealth taxes

2 days ago by return2ozma to c/aboringdystopia

Gov. Gavin Newsom isn't just fighting the billionaire tax. He's backing Prop. 42, which would ban future wealth taxes in California, too.
TargaryenTKE 156 points 2 days ago

Absolute scumbag

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pdxfed 66 points a day ago

Shocking, the guy who was caught at a 2020 dinner party at French Laundry during the pandemic when he had asked Californians to avoid group gatherings for the Thanksgiving holiday.

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resipsaloquitur 5 points 21 hours ago

That's not great, but if that's the worst he ever did I can live with that.

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youCanCallMeDragon 5 points 18 hours ago

It’s not. My personal favorite is his homeless encampment sweeps.

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resipsaloquitur 1 point 18 hours ago

Well yeah. That’s the point I failed to make.

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radiofreebc 107 points 2 days ago

People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now.

Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost.

They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich.

EDIT: DWC should have been DWS

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danc4498 33 points 2 days ago

He reminds me a lot of HRC. We know he exists to run for president, but we know very little about what he actually stands for. We know what he's against.

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radiofreebc 8 points 2 days ago

He's a hater, not a leader.

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dehyzer 5 points a day ago

At first glance I thought "he" was referring to Bernie and my brain started to melt.

On second read, I think you're talking about Newsom. I hope you're taking about Newsom.

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eestileib 2 points a day ago

Sadly Bernie's brain has also started to melt. I'm a fan of the guy, but not a fan of him in the Senate any more.

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Seralth 5 points a day ago

He's 20 years past his prime sadly.

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Wildmimic 2 points a day ago

He is simply too old. Even if he is the best example of someone who wants to bring people together, after a certain age you can't really understand what the young people are about.

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resipsaloquitur 2 points 21 hours ago

Quaint to think he was "too old" back in 2016, though.

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NateNate60 24 points 2 days ago

Social democratic policies were also just not as popular in 2016 as they are now. In just a few weeks, a full decade will have passed since 2016.

In 2016, people more or less took American democracy for granted. The voters never knew about the danger that Trump's ideology posed to the republic. This was following eight years of Obama, so right-wingers were thought of as fundamentally just people with bad policy ideas and not people intent on destroying democracy.

Only since then have people really started coming around to social democracy, democratic socialism, and other left-wing ideas. Over time, people have begun to realise, Bernie was right.

It really is too bad that Bernie is so old. He deserves a good retirement, but given the current political climate, he's going to keep fighting for the working class until the bitter end.

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Tollana1234567 5 points a day ago

they were blinded by culture war issues, thats why.

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NateNate60 6 points a day ago

Traditionally, when times are good economically are when people find time to advance social policies. That's why the Civil Rights movement found success in the 1960s. I'm sure had King marched across the South in 1929, the voters and political class would have had no appetite for it. Democrats through the economy was fixed forever once Obama was elected, but they were evidently wrong.

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funkforager 13 points 2 days ago

Who is DWC?

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Bustedknuckles 19 points 2 days ago

I think they mean Debbie wasserman-schultz ?

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radiofreebc 16 points 2 days ago

The C should have been an S.
Upvote (for everyone), and i'll fix that

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resipsaloquitur 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, Bernie would have been bad for business for corpo dems, but the real reason inner party members picked HRC was to get her either up or out, then everyone in the Democratic party moves up one level.

Whether HRC won or lost, everyone below her in the pyramid would win.

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Telodzrum -13 points a day ago

Bernie wasn’t the candidate because got beat, resoundingly at the ballot box across the entire primary.

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obvs 15 points a day ago

If you believe that, I've got a nice giant golden bridge to sell you.

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techmaster7d -47 points 2 days ago

LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.

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Eh_I 26 points 2 days ago

"When YOUR thing loses its because it sucks, but when MY thing loses its because everything else sucks."

enlightened shit

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radiofreebc -6 points 2 days ago

How does living in fascism benefit you?

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zbyte64 19 points a day ago

It doesn't. And pretending HRC or Newsom is popular won't save us from fascism either.

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Cheese_man 19 points 2 days ago

There's a whole psychology lecture contained in this comment.

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radiofreebc 0 points 2 days ago
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AzuranAurora 16 points a day ago

20 hour old account doing nothing but tossing insults at people? Nothing of value to see here, folks. Block and move on.

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gh0stb4tz 11 points 2 days ago

The number of downvotes you received suggests to me that the general public disagrees with you.

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radiofreebc -10 points 2 days ago

Yeah +22 on Lemmy sucks. You got me.

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radiofreebc 2 points 2 days ago

He was too popular...but, in 2016, nobody voted in primaries.

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lemmyng 69 points a day ago

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tigeruppercut 25 points a day ago

He married Kim guilfoil, really says all you need to know about him

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nullspace 13 points a day ago

The more I hear about that woman the more I think she is/was an escort.

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snausagesinablanket 11 points a day ago path: 0 26272883 26273644 26276693, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 0
Tollana1234567 5 points a day ago

and making this statement around the time her former GF/WIFE is under investigation for accepting bribes. hes there to distract from kims investigation.

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MehBlah 53 points 2 days ago

Newsom is a fine example of the kind of democrat that needs to go.

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Tollana1234567 15 points a day ago

id say hes further right than biden, he makes him look tame in comparison. newsom was willing to entertain right wingers like nick fuentes.

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roofuskit 48 points a day ago

Let's all be clear, this is him campaigning for president.

What, the, fuck. What goddamn idiots are advising Democratic candidates?

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NoneOfUrBusiness 14 points a day ago

Not idiots, or well not just idiots. Representing the interests of the rich is his job with everything else being secondary. This is the default state of a neoliberal regardless of intelligence. The target of this message is American billionaires, not you.

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Tollana1234567 6 points a day ago

he disappeared for a few months after making those stupid rants at trump, where was he the whole time.

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FE80 45 points a day ago

This guy is auditioning for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination.

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Tollana1234567 18 points a day ago

dont think he needs it, the DNC likely determined already. hes just giving himself more exposure so that people vote on him based on recognizability alone. thats also how trump won too, being in MEDIA alot helped him.

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merc 1 point 10 hours ago

I've never heard of the MEDIA alot, but that species has alot of members.

It's amazing how brainwashed people are by TV. Trump was a blowhard business failure, but the TV show made him seem like some kind of decisive business genius, so people voted for that. I wouldn't be surprised if Zelenski was elected to lead Ukraine because he'd played the role on TV previously. A lot of it is unconscious, so people aren't going to admit that that's the reason why, but it has to be a factor.

I'm sure it's related to parasocial relationships and to stalkers. People think they know someone personally because they see them on TV or in movies, or hear them on the radio, or whatever.

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Tollana1234567 1 point 7 hours ago

he had his reality show you're fired it helped him to gain popularity, plus his failed trump towers, vodkas, always was "known" as wealthy businessmen.

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kurmudgeon 35 points a day ago

Gavin Newsom is a perfect example of what is wrong with the Democratic party.

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yggstyle 30 points a day ago

I heard kill the billionaires ... and ban future tax evasion. anyone else hear that?

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bertlewirth 25 points a day ago

I already had no respect for him, but, somehow, I have even less now. You fucking turd.

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inari 25 points 2 days ago

The one good thing here is he's made it clear who's his boss (and it isn't the people)

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WanderWisley 21 points a day ago

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zikzak025 18 points a day ago

Gavin realizing he will never be president, so he is trying to secure his future as a Silicon Valley lobbyist.

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AWistfulNihilist 17 points a day ago
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Reality_Suit 14 points a day ago

As long as there are different socio-economic classes, it will always be class warfare. Everything will be done to veer the fight away from class warfare. Legitimate causes like feminism and equal rights will be used as distractions to veer away from class warfare. It will always be the mega rich vs everyone else.

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boaratio 12 points a day ago

So he's full mask off at this point. I mean we all knew this, but now he's saying the quiet part out loud.

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discocactus 12 points a day ago

Had me in the first half

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modestmeme 12 points 2 days ago

Taxes need to be raised for the wealthy at the Federal level. Prop 40 is a one time, performative scheme that will spend years in court being struck down. But if it gets you guys to vote, fine.

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Tollana1234567 10 points a day ago

he was always there to serve the rich nothing more. even his own father was defending rich people as a lawyer. and thats why he had no influence out of moteray, when he was still in the state congress for a while.

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explodicle 1 point 21 hours ago

I saw one campaign sign posted on Lemmy that said "Fine. I'll do it." I'd love to start seeing campaign signs like "my father hates me".

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mr_rusty_shackleford 7 points 2 days ago

Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

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Hello_there 20 points 2 days ago

Somebody has to do it, and waiting for the death of the filibuster to have anything get done is a terrible idea

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Lodespawn 19 points a day ago

Didn't New York already do it and it proved that billionaires will stay put and not move to a hick backwater just to save a few bucks they wouldnt even notice losing?

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mr_rusty_shackleford 2 points a day ago

What they did is very different. They taxed residential properties not used as primary residences valued over 5 million. The CA tax is a one time 5% tax on the worldwide net worth of billionaires.

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obvs 6 points a day ago

Or, and hear me out, the states that they move to could follow suit and completely negate the ridiculous argument to begin with.

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queermunist 8 points a day ago

If it's so easy to move, why are they fighting it?

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hazard_iguana 4 points a day ago

You’re not an outlier, but it’s where the current political climate sits. State governments have to do something because the federal government, headed by a facist, has withheld funds from states it deems enemies.

The difference between trying to get rid of a leech on the government and just sitting there and taking it is pretty clear to me. If they leave… so be it, billionaires don’t create jobs, the companies full of employees do. At the point they become billionaires, they are likely trying their hardest to reduce jobs as well.

But also California is a very nice place to live and people want to live here. It’s not like you can just say “I don’t reside in California” and not pay the tax either. The FTB has the 5th largest economy in the world behind it, it will determine if you have residency in CA or not regardless if you say you don’t. And it’s in their best interest to put the time and effort into proving it for the billionaires that want to try.

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Wildmimic 4 points a day ago

It has been shown multiple times that a few will flee, but many just stay. Depends on how good life is for them in that area, and a highly developed state with a massive GDP will have no problem to stay attractive.

But i agree, making it harder to avoid on a federal level would be better.

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Tollana1234567 2 points a day ago

billionaires arnt going to live in redstate hellholes like missouris/misssipi, unless its an wealthy community, but they wont do businesses there.

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Sgt_choke_n_stroke 7 points 21 hours ago

What a cuck

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TheEighthDoctor 6 points 21 hours ago

Your lesser of two evils future president...

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Lucidlethargy 6 points 19 hours ago

Oh, gee, what a shocker. The asshole sides with the other assholes.

Eat shit and die, Newsom.

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Grimy 5 points a day ago

If that headline was only the first 8 words, he would have my vote

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mechoman444 4 points 20 hours ago

Lol. Not even beating around the bush anymore.

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GonzoAtBarstow 3 points 2 days ago

Eskimo Bro to a Trump

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A_norny_mousse 1 point a day ago

The saddest thing: he's still better than Trump.

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supcoop 1 point a day ago
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