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Yeah, which is precisely why it's important to ruin the product with random spam, racism, overly sexual comments, lorem ipsum and for good measure some fetish porn and gore images.
Wasn't Microsoft training an AI from Twitter and it basically turned into the aforementioned garbage?
I doubt that companies would enjoy to train their models on a foul dataset filled with nonsense, hatred, porn and gore.
People mastered video playback in a web browser 20 years ago.
Reddit has yet to do so.
Their goal is the sellout.
I don't think they are going to do an IPO. I think China invested a lot into them and threatened to pull funding if they didn't kill 3rd party apps.
Dopamine-addled zoomers when something takes more than 5 seconds to happen:
it’ll never happen!
People on the Internet who refuse to consider outcomes they don't want to be true:
He's a Zoomer! He's dumb!
Just for the record:
I'm a Millenial
If Reddit's IPO fails, great! You won't see me complaining.
I don't see it failing, but if it does, I'll happily be wrong.
They're shooting themselves in the face, but the gun won't go off until Friday. They're kicking out everyone who is addicted to the site enough to install a third party app for it. I really hope that RIF and Apollo redirect people to Lemmy after this weekend.
Oh man, the real Armageddon’s gonna start when the 3PAs die. No more Reddit for me afterwards.
Christian announcing Reddit for Lemmy/Kbin would be icing on the cake, but I just don’t see that happening.
Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron
Is he really abrasive? I haven't seen him say anything outside of what I'd expect an exec of a company to say.
Is he really a moron? Dude is walking away with a lot of zeros in his bank account. From what I can tell, it sounds like he's pretty happy with the outcome.
I'm not supporting him, but assuming he makes money from it, it would be childish to call him "dumb".
God I’m so tired of seeing people equate being rich with not being a fucking moron.
Right.
People aren't smart because they stumbled into a handful of zeros. Everyone blows Musk but he was just born into blood diamond money. He didn't actually do anything. Neither did Spez, he just makes money off other people's content.
Strip all these CEOs of their extra zeros, strip them of their user generated content, then ask them to rebuild their wealth by actually providing a good or service and watch them flop.
See, that's the thing. I'm not a fan of Musk or Spez, and I never claimed to be.
Ultimately I think Elon Musk gets a ludicrous amount of attention.
My whole point was that (a) it seems like Spez doesn't care, which really begs the question of how much energy this is worth investing in and (b) people in his position often get what they want (money) because they have to deal with this exact kind of situation.
If Reddit dies, it dies, and I'll consider myself wrong. If Spez totally gets owned and loses, great!
Either way, I think it's ok to move on.
I also wouldn't be surprised if they expected this reaction.
Anyway, Lemmy is fine; it's a nice alternative. I'd rather just let Reddit go in whatever direction it ends up going in than keep getting angry about it.
I'm glad that there is an alternative. Maybe we can try and learn from Reddit and do what we can to prevent Lemmy from going in that direction, yeah?
They successfully navigated a system that was more likely than not highly stacked in their favor thanks to their rich family and the other people like them that they know. They then horde all the wealth while other people who can't get their teeth fixed or decent medical treatment applaud them from the slums. It's pretty depressing how this is all considered normal thanks to right-wing influence on social media.
One word: Trump.
Fuck off, Steve
is he really abrasive?
Spez is a liar, a cheat and a habitual editor of comments that insult him. He’s also incredibly petty and rude.
is he really a moron?
He hired 2,000 employees to run a site like Reddit, has effectively destroyed the website’s image and the ongoing protests have revealed to people why it’s such a shitty investment.
His riches are all luck, not brains; he can’t even sell one of the most visited sites in the world without gutting it first.
Yeah, let’s not forget that he’s a Musk fanboy and probably believes all the shit he said about Twitter.
He’s also a doomsday prepper who believes he’ll be some sort of ‘leader’
I haven't seen him say anything outside of what I'd expect an exec of a company to say.
Then you really haven't been paying any attention whatsoever.
For example, do you honestly expect a company exec, on the eve of an IPO, to tell a news reporter "We've never made any profit" on the site that's been billed as "the front page of the internet" for at least a decade, with hundreds of millions of users? That's a smart executive business move to you?
Gotta make money for when the world ends.
Can we find his bunker and take turns shitting in it?
"Sure, we may have killed the planet but for a beautiful moment in time, we created a lot of value for our shareholders"
So one individual's bank account is more valuable than a community for millions world wide?
Death of the Commons in deed indeed.
By justifing Spez's actions as smart.
They are smart for his bank account.
They are not smart for the future of reddit and its users. Not to mention the effect of destroying the knowledge transfer and denying people the curated resources to improve their lives.
I have zero modding experience, but I know that doing the job well would be harder (and more time consuming) than it looks.
I’m guessing that most new mods that reddit will end up with just want the “power” but will fall on their faces when it comes to performance. I’m grateful to the good mods on every site/sub/instance who do it for free. Thanks, everyone!
I’ve modded a fair few subs. It’s difficult, boring and thankless work for no reward beyond the satisfaction of smoothly running a community you’re passionate about…or power tripping, for those who’re into that.
Most people who end up becoming mods will burn out pretty fucking quick. Not to mention, there’ll be cases where a sub requires a certain subject matter expert for mod work and…well, those ain’t easy to find.
Yep, I have experience with volunteer work (not on reddit, in an actual organization with good intended objectives).
The organization is great, we are ALL volunteers, from the directives to the everyday volunteers. ALL money made goes back into making the project reach wider, don't want to give many details but money goes into giving out free or very accesible education and health-related services to those in need. We have access to the numbers, its all transparent.
The coworkers are nice, its a very niche area of work and we all know one another (so you also make connections with some important people in the field). Some of us have long lasting friendships. The directives of the organization are a mix of founders and the longer lasting volunteers that want to take on those roles. All positions are decided by vote of the community, anyone from the community can apply to any role and pitch in their ideas to make it better. We do that every six months.
It opens many many doors for you, can't begin to count the amount of stuff I learned, the amount of opportunities that stemed from that (internships, jobs, grants... etc) and volunteers get to use all services the organization provides for free (so I got free education, very discounted health-related services for my family, etc.)
All this to say this is a nice place with a nice working environment (all things reddit is not), that actually gives voice and opportunities to everyone involved.
All that, and we still can't make most of our volunteers stay longer than a few months, because when any other compromise comes up, volunteer work is the first thing to go (which is logical, that's life). So good luck to reddit, getting anyone to stay without the proper tools and right in the middle of the IPO dumpster fire
If you elect me as head mod I promise to only ban people who I don't like (I hate everyone)
I'm afraid to say I'm a mod on FB lol, but it's a UK US based weather group that I'm very passionate about with 92k members.
Basically as a mod, never argue with a member, never show a member up to the rest of the group, there are better ways to deal with things other than flat out banning someone. Being a mod should be keeping things under control so the group remains a good place to go. That's all.
Our main problem is the fake accounts from the Military pilots wanting to speak to the lovely ladies or make you a killing with bitcoin lol.
This is why their moderators' best weapon is to not moderate and let all hell break loose. Reddit will then be forced to pull this shit and it'll go to hell fast. It's their best weapon, better than going NSFW or dark in protest. Just silently stop moderating and let Reddit and advertisers notice when they aren't.
Sadly people are quite dedicated to doing work for free for some reason
Well, it's not a huge mystery or anything...people love the communities they build up. You feel a sense of loyalty to the people and to the idea behind the community.
From the outside looking in, I can see it being "working for free", but by that measure wouldn't any instance of you contributing anything that benefits others to be "working for free"?
Half of the tech support knowledge I have comes from people "working for free".
I think the sad part about Reddit is that there's still a lot of people that want to hold on to what they've built up, and Reddit is banking on that to force them to change.
there's a difference when its big business cashing the check and not someone else working for free.
Welcome to open source
So true. I live in a townhouse community, and I'll mow my neighbors' lawn when I'm out - it's literally 3 minutes - or clean out their gutters when I'm doing mine. Getting ready for the job is half the battle, anyway. But I'm not touching any rental property. Hell if I'm going to donate my time to some landlord's investment, even if it makes the neighborhood better.
Totally this. This is a brand spankin' new mod, hardly someone who has built the community. Heck he snuck up on the lead mod within a matter of hours after being made a mod.
People like you would think that
Well, it’s not a huge mystery or anything…people love the communities they build up. You feel a sense of loyalty to the people and to the idea behind the community.
Dude. Its about power and control. It has little to do with any sense of loyalty. I'm sure there are a few that have some measure of loyalty, but very few mods are doing it because they just love the topic they moderate. They're doing it because it gives them power and control and they love that. Absolutely no one can convince me otherwise.
I don't agree, not all mods are power hungry, some subs are what they are today because of their mods.
A vocal portion of the reddit user base seems to really hate moderators for some reason. In the subreddits I frequented I never saw anything which seemed like an abuse of power, but maybe reddit doesn't automatically broadcast mod actions very well?
I wish they had already started doing this. Once the moderators are screwed over and replaced by people who can't fill their shoes, it's already too late; those mods are probably never coming back even if Reddit wanted them to. And after the apps stop working on Saturday, the damage will already be done.
This is a good thing, the faster and harder reddit crashes, the more people will move to better platforms which are run not by corporations leaching money from entirely user created content while making the experience actively worse (long before this latest incident).
Reddit backtracking for half a year and turning up the heat slower was the worst case outcome.
That dude is pathetic.
This is more of a game of thrones when the bad guys win scenario
The fun part is he is bragging about coming here.
@icxcnika Anything you would like to add?
So he scabs as a total noob first time mod, AND his whole plan is rely on bots that won't work in a few days and require govt id to mail someone some chips?
Fucking lulz
Shoutout to the mod who just bailed immediately 😂
lol Reddit’s death has finally started. Can’t wait to see spez’s asswipe shills bring the whole thing down with their incompetence.
EDIT: I went through the subredditdrama post, and looking at some of the comments made me glad I’m leaving that place.
Should we start our own subredditdrama? Or is there one? I foresee lots of this kind stuff on the way.
You mean for Reddit drama, or Lemmy drama?
I vote for both!
Now that I have some distance from daily reddit, and time in what is really a much better community here, going back there makes me realize how poor quality so much of the content is, both posts and comments.
Yeah, much of Reddit is absolute trash. It’s really hard to find dedicated communities for anything, but most of ‘em are much better than Reddit for everything ‘cept reach.
Really, the only communities I’ll miss are niche hobby communities. The rest of the website could crash and burn for all I care.
The reposts and site culture clichés were already driving me batty. I did get a lot of good info from a couple rather niche communities about chronic illnesses, but they turned into answering the same questions and having the same discussions over and over. I can definitely live without telling another 5,000 people how to get tested for Celiac disease.
And for that stuff, you can still just use ‘(insert query here) Reddit’, and just use an adblocker. That, or find dedicated forums.
Honestly, just not having Reddit on my phone will be enough to break the compulsion to fire it up.
It frustrated me when Reddit made the initial decision to screw over app developers. Having done dev work in the past, I know the time that goes in to them so someone asking for a little money in return is the least we can do. But no, Reddit just say "Screw you guys"!
As if that was not enough, they are now showing that they really don't care about the many moderators that have painstakingly put years of 'free' time in to building these communities, the same communities that are the foundation of Reddit!
I am sure we are going to see a lot more of these admin takeovers in the coming weeks and it is the very reason I am over here and why Lemmy is seeing the incredible growth curve. Long may that continue.
Spez went to Musk for advice so the plan now is chasing off anyone who wants the site to work worth a shit then run a barebones network monetizing the leftovers whose only feature request is not getting banned for organizing violence or screeching the N word.
Was thinking the same thing earlier.
Counter-point: just do it, pussy, you'll be fiiiiine!
I just deleted my account. Welp that's 15 years gone. Feels good. Tastes like chicken.
14 years here. Ran it through https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite first, without deleting the account, in case they restore the comments: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/issues/43
PS: I know about the implications of potentially removing contributions to the internet. But, I'm not about to go through a decade+ plus of comments and posts in order to find the tiny amount of things that could actually be useful for others.
PS: I know about the implications of potentially removing contributions to the internet.
Reddit does not get to continue to profit off of any contributions I've made to the internet, one way or another. Anyone convincing you not to delete comments on reddit is a scab more concerned with maintaining the status quo so they don't get inconvenienced.
Ditto. I've been on Reddit since before the big Digg exodus. Cancelled my premium sub and deleted my account on Sunday.
It's like dumping that leech of a friend that only takes and never gives or pays for anything. Good riddance I say.
In 3 days when third party apps die it's going to be so fucking funny lmao. Lemmy is gonna explode.
And if that happens Lemmy will be in a bad spot, because the network can't handle a mass exodus from Reddit. Which in turn will lead to people coming back to Reddit announcing that the Fediverse is unstable and broken garbage.
I think those are called death throes.
death throes noun : the violent movements and noises that are sometimes made during passing.
I used to love that sub. Not that I ever actually exchanged snacks, but I thought it was cool that random people would just get together and mail snacks from one side of the world to another.
Ohhh.. Snacks! I was reading Snakes the whole time I was reading this thread and was really confused! (Curse my brain)
I read that as "Curse my Brian"
Oof. I read a decent amount of comments, definitely getting shill/snitch/power seeking vibes, add to that the admins...what a shit show
Would love a subreddit drama over here lol
/c/subreddit_drama let’s go!
I've deleted all my content I can across 3 accounts and a decade of posts and comments one thing though I have thousands of coins. I've never bought any before they are all rewards from posts. I kinda want to spend them on something.
I deleted my 11 year old account history yesterday. And will be deleting my account on Friday. I’m gonna delete my other accounts today, save for my porn account, which I’ll keep until they pull a tumblr. I don’t feel so bad about it since they don’t get any advertising dollars from those subs.
I'd suggest hanging on to those empty accounts for a while, just to be sure you've gotten everything. Even if your profile page looks blank, you may have comments older than the 1000 comment limit that still exist, as do any comments/posts made in subs that have gone private.
I kinda want to spend them on something.
How about comments promoting the Fediverse?
I went through and gilded a bunch of posts telling people how to move to tildes/fediverse/etc, or who pointed out major flaws in reddit's positions.
Oh, I also unsubbed from all the subreddits I was in, didn't want me included as part of an inflated subscriber count.
I didn't think of that! The inflated subscriber count!
Reddit seems so clunky compared to Lemmy now. I used the official ap anyway so the whole 3rd party thing didn't actually affect my direct experience. But obviously their actions affect us all.
Anyway, I like using lemmy straight on the mobile browser, just looks so much nicer among other things
Services like Stripe allow people in over 100 countries to match face to government-issued-ID to prove their identity (at a cost of about $1.50 per verification).
AHAHAHAHAHAHA Are you for real right now?
"Identity theft is not a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!"
I'd like to see about implementing some sort of identity verification service for the sub. I'm an IT engineer/developer, so coding is absolutely my forte... Services like Stripe allow people in over 100 countries to match face to government-issued-ID to prove their identity (at a cost of about $1.50 per verification).
YIKES
Honestly though .... with the disinformation campaigns at State scale, the botnets, the AI content, and whatever comes next, how do we not have to have a verified human user internet in the next 20 years?
Thats a really good question. The only options I can think of is better captchas or to straight up consider any output from a machine as inadmissible/unverifiable
That is the among the last things on earth I would ever want jesus christ
Yeah I didn't ask how would you not want it -- I said how will the current functions of the internet operate without it given the new forces we already see ruining everything,
Does the snack exchange now include gifs of popcorn?
Lmao so fucking stupid
Wow just wow
Damn, this subreddit will surely meet it's demise
Having no mod is better than having a bad one
Let them fight, they might actually learn that being a (good) mod is not a cakewalk.
Pretty much the same thing happened to /r/assholedesign. They made someone that's been inactive for two years the lead mod and they reopened the sub. There's like no chance ppl aren't getting paid to backstab the other mods.
Did they migrate yet? I keep not logging in to reddit...
I like the new mod's comment about how modding will be easy because of the bots. Lol
O.M.G.
SnackExchange is a pretty light-touch subreddit. "Problem people" are a rarity here; the anti-scammer bot does an incredibly good job of keeping would-be scammers out, and you'll find that cases of fraud/scam, while they do ever happen, are extremely rare. As such, I genuinely envision myself needing to do very little. I'm always nervous to use the "nah this community just runs itself!" phrasing, but.... it really does come pretty close.
I genuinely envision myself needing to do very little
Seems like a great choice for head mod.
I really hope they leave with their bots, just to spite him. Too bad they won’t though, some mods are fools who care far too much about communities that couldn’t care less about them.
I can't see any problems, therefore there must not be any problems!
Stupid bastard.
So many astroturf vibes coming off this new mod's post...
Grabbing popcorn 🍿
WTF is this happy horseshit?
I'd like to see about implementing some sort of identity verification service for the sub.
Exactly my response too. Like this inexperienced mod takes the sub by playing nice with the admins and the first thing they want to implement is identity verification? Dafaq
Does he know he is a 'Reddit' mod?
It's real simple, see, just hold your passport up to your face..
And next, give me each of your fingers. We want to sure its really you! We can’t have you scamming for snacks now, can we?
never heard of this sub and it sounds kind of gross just from the name tbh.
i find it hilarious that the new mod wants to implement an elaborate ID system and ??Escrow??. wow. he^1^ sounds like he would like to implement the stories told by all the conspiracy people on the sub. maybe he plans to put this on his job application for the gates foundation lololol Sounds like a deeeeeelicious time.
GOOD LUCK FRIEND
1 - do not think it is too far out on a limb to assume male gender in this case.
I really could care less
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This is hilarious tbh. Please don’t get me wrong, I really feel for the mods who put so much time and energy into the sub (all subs for that matter). It sucks.
But god, watching reddit implode feels so fucking good. Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron, and it’s nice to see his web site fall from grace so publicly.
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