Worst fear confirmed: You can't launch Modern Warfare 3 without first launching Modern Warfare 2

3 years ago by Potatos_are_not_friends to c/games

The "Call of Duty HQ" makes accessing Modern Warfare 3 a chore.
woelkchen 77 points 3 years ago

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baatliwala 17 points 3 years ago

Is this the equivalent of lemmy karmawhoring? I can't see how this is related to the acquisition.

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woelkchen -9 points 3 years ago

Is this the equivalent of lemmy karmawhoring?

No, because Lemmy has no karma system.

I can’t see how this is related to the acquisition.

Activision fuckups are Microsoft fuckups now. Microsoft and lots on industry observers claimed that Microsoft taking over Activision would be such as good change. Turns out: It wasn't, just as the fullscreen CoD ad on Xbox was not a positive change.

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SpacetimeMachine 17 points 3 years ago

The acquisition has barely even started. I don't think Microsoft has a single say in this games development yet.

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woelkchen -7 points 3 years ago

Acquisition is completed. Announced mid October. It's not like independent Activision had any power to show full screen ads to Xbox users before.

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baatliwala 13 points 3 years ago

I don't see how a game which was developed pre MS has anything to do with MS fucking up? That's a soceopathic obsession with hating something, 99.99999% of people won't think of blaming a company for this.

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woelkchen -11 points 3 years ago

I don’t see how a game which was developed pre MS has anything to do with MS fucking up?

The game will be released by Microsoft. It's that simple. They are free to delay the release by a bit and rework the bad things. But they don't.

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helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago
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woelkchen 1 point 3 years ago

Huh? My guy you have 5100 post score and 7100 content score, not sure what you mean.

Where? Does some special client calculate that or what? In the regular web UI, there are no points:

Also, I'm making many dumb jokes about motorsports, usually upvoted, so I definitively did not need to farm karma through a single reply, just to get pulled down again by people who keep denying that Microsoft is in charge of Activision now.

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Secret300 9 points 3 years ago

Honestly Activision was shit before, just more shit now

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Krudler 2 points 3 years ago

Worst fear hey

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BmeBenji 44 points 3 years ago

Funny. My worst fear is being stuck in the middle of the ocean with no boats or land in sight. But I’m trying to be more open-minded so I guess I shouldn’t judge.

… but also at the same time my greatest fear about the gaming industry is that all indie games will start having battle passes and subscriptions. But I guess some people who still think the base version of Call of Duty is worth the yearly $70 subscription fee might be deathly afraid of being reminded that MW3 is actually just MW2 with a few new guns.

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setsneedtofeed 24 points 3 years ago

You know what’s crazy? The original Modern Warfare 3 from 2009 is still $40 on steam. Black Ops 2 from 2012 is $60.

COD pricing is insane. For comparison the Halo MCC which includes six games, two of which are remastered, is $40.

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Mr_Blott 9 points 3 years ago

I think CoD pricing is affected by the fact that usually, it's mum that's paying for it

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setsneedtofeed 8 points 3 years ago

Are zoomers lining up around the block to play the Black Ops 1 campaign? Just seems absurd after over a decade to not drop the price to a reasonable level.

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lud 4 points 3 years ago

No, I don't believe that's the reason.

The reason is most likely because they want people to always but the newest game because they don't want to split up their player base.

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Wahots 8 points 3 years ago

They are smoking unfiltered crack at activision-blizzard. Just don't play them. Or pirate. Not like they are a very wonderful company to their own employees.

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DigitalCatcher 7 points 3 years ago path: 0 5058638 5061342 5081806 5086223, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 1
Wahots 2 points 3 years ago

Jesus, thank you for the heads up. That's scary.

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Nelots 6 points 3 years ago

Battle passes are fine when done right. Deep Rock Galactic, for example, adds all the cosmetics from the pass into the random loot pool after the season ends.

Most battle passes fucking suck though. Like in overwatch where you pay for the privilege of unlocking things through dozens of hours of gameplay.

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thatWeirdGuy 5 points 3 years ago

Ye, ghostship gaming has nailed it. Some items even go into the store and can be bought with earned currency.

The game is so good that I'm serious considering buying some dlc to support them.

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Nelots 3 points 3 years ago

I don't play the game a ton anymore, but back when I was super into it, I bought all four of the DLC out at the time for that exact reason. I rarely even use the cosmetics included, I just think the devs are awesome.

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BmeBenji 4 points 3 years ago

I see where you’re coming from, but if the game is designed in a way where it feels like it’s trying to convince me that playing the game for a larger amount of time is worth a reward and not rewarding in its own right then something is definitely off

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Nelots 0 points 3 years ago

So you're against unlocking things through play? Stay away from the rouge-like genre then, you would hate it.

Just about any game that is designed to be played more than once (i.e. not story games like the Witcher) will have some sort of in-game rewards to keep it fresh. Like the Binding of Isaac where you have over a thousand different items to unlock through gameplay. But live service games need a way to keep their game fresh for even longer than most. Themed unlockable cosmetics are a great way to do it. As long as they're not capitalizing on FOMO, I do not see any problem with it.

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BmeBenji 1 point 3 years ago

I’m not against unlocking things through play, I’m against unlocking things through play-time and that includes “experience points.” Cool stuff should be unlocked in the game, not once the game determines you have played it long enough to have earned something.

For example, unlocking new weapons in Dead Cells because you found them, even if by random chance, is better than unlocking new skins in DOOM Eternal because you played (not won or lost, just played) the same level enough times over to have “earned” them. Wasting time is not an accomplishment.

Yes, unlocks by random chance also technically could be considered unlocks by sufficient play-time, but I’d consider that different because you should be able to accept that you will never unlock certain items.

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ohlaph 36 points 3 years ago

They make COD so stupid. Launch COD 2, "Welcome to Warzone, the game you didn't buy but we want you to play and buy stuff because fuck you, give me money".

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intensely_human 1 point 3 years ago

What are you guys even talking about? The games exist within other games? Also why are they reusing names from a decade ago? Is it the same game?

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Jeffool 1 point 3 years ago

The contemporary Modern Warfare series is a remake of the original series. At least a general new take on a lot from that series. It isn't 1:1 by far.

Instead of letting you launch each game individually, or creating a general launcher that you start and then pick the game you want to play... They chose to force players to launch MW2 as a fake hub, and in that game's main menu, click the MW3 option.

The article says you can tell because apparently if you want to play MW2 you just pick the game type and it starts starving for a match. If you want to play MW3 you have to wait as MW2 shuts down and you wait for MW3 to start, after you already waited for MW2 to start initially.

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Aganim 1 point 3 years ago

Activision when you are like me and only care about the campaign:

"You fool, why the fuck would you want to switch to the campaign? Good luck in finding out where we hid that button in this overly convoluted UI. Oh yes, and because you are not planning on forking over additional money to us, we'll restart the game in stingy campaign mode. And no, you cannot be smart and just start the single player executable directly, because we made sure it won't run when not launched through the game we actually want you to play."

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FourThirteen 32 points 3 years ago

Who's buying this shit anymore? The last game I got was the original MW2. None of my friends have bought CoD games in ages. Am I just in the wrong friend circles?

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crackajack 19 points 3 years ago

Nah fam, you and your friends are just getting old. It's the kids these days who are suckers for buying cash-cow and money milking games. Because they are kids and don't give a shit about money with respect to quality.

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spooksboots 8 points 3 years ago

I think it's a little about how they don't know better either, and there's no better options. You and I remember when multiplayer games used to be great, but if nowadays they're all shit, what option do they have?

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Silentiea 1 point 3 years ago

"Because when every game's shitty...

...No game is."

~Syndrome, probably.

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coughrelief 1 point 3 years ago
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Ensign_Seitler 15 points 3 years ago

MechWarrior 2? Man, that takes me back…

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Veneroso 8 points 3 years ago

Enemy power up detected

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sours 4 points 3 years ago

Heat level critical.

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alienangel 4 points 3 years ago

I think there are fairly good odds none of my gaming friends have ever bought a CoD game.

Not that we all play amazingly refined games, there is plenty of junk and regret-ware, and a lot of other FPS games - just no one ever got into CoD.

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badaboomxx 1 point 3 years ago

I am.on the same page, i finished the campaign on my x360, then tried just once multi-player, and it was full of cheaters.

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setsneedtofeed 29 points 3 years ago

My worst fear is that thing with the face of a man which stalks the deep woods.

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NoSpiritAnimal 21 points 3 years ago

I'm just looking for mushrooms dude

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rbesfe 26 points 3 years ago

Shitty gamerslop company continues to be shitty and crank out gamerslop

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slaacaa 24 points 3 years ago

Last COD I tried to play was the new MW, bought it cheap digitally. After forcing to download WZ for that shitty launcher, it couldn’t start on the PS5, kept freezing and crashing. After several rounds of back and forth with PS customer service, and wasting hours on reinstalls, they finally admitted they don’t have a fix, and gave me back my money.

Will never touch this shitpile again (and I used to like COD around the old MW and BO times).

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Callie 11 points 3 years ago
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hoshikarakitaridia 2 points 3 years ago

That's fine.

I bought the game on PC and I played it for 2 weeks and then never touched it again. They managed to touch so many things from the original modern warfare 2 that it completely lost its flow. It was really sad to say that the gameplay lost all it's charm, but oh well.

Good thing you got your money back, it probably wasn't worth it anyway.

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TheBlue22 22 points 3 years ago

I'm sorry but that's fucking hilarious

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TSG_Asmodeus 17 points 3 years ago

Anyone want to bet on this game still outselling the last one?

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rimjob_rainer 14 points 3 years ago

No problem, just don't play that crap.

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Ari-Zahavi227 8 points 3 years ago

amazing

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Stalinwolf 2 points 3 years ago

Is that Serj? Or is it Vano from STALKER?

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SomethingBurger -22 points 3 years ago

It takes 70-90 seconds to launch Modern Warfare 3

That's it? Launching Warzone takes at least ten times that, between daily 45GB updates, multiple restarts when updating, unskippable intro videos and PS2-era loading times.

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Kit 47 points 3 years ago

Wtf who would play that? I'm not waiting 10 minutes to play a videogame - that's a 6th of my free time every day.

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kadu 11 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure about how things are today, as I only played Warzone during the first couple of months of the release... But the main reason the game took a long time to load back then was shader pre-compilation, and honestly, I prefer that over the massive stuttering mess most other games that skipped this step would become.

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AnonTwo 8 points 3 years ago

I feel there's a good number of people who would just take neither as well though. Yeah, 10m loading is better than intermittent stuttering, but then I better be playing one of the top 10 games of all time if i'm dealing with that.

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Silverseren 6 points 3 years ago

"playing one of the top 10 games of all time"

You get that dirty sentence away from Activision.

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learningduck 6 points 3 years ago

But they don't have to compile shaders every time the game is launched. Only when I install a new content or the first time I install the game.

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kadu 4 points 3 years ago
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chaogomu 0 points 3 years ago

Not willing to wait 10 minutes to play a game? You Sir, or Madam, have never played modded Rimworld.

Now imagine loading a game, realizing your mods aren't quite right, and having to exit out and reload.

As to 10 minutes to something like Warzone... no. Just no. An online battle royal type game needs to be fast. It can't be all laid back and calming like Rimworld, the colony/warcrimes simulator.

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Decoy321 26 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but if you're playing rimworld, you're already a masochist.

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chaogomu 9 points 3 years ago

Just because everything is on fire, my cook has food poisoning, my researcher is punching the boomalope, and my hunter is running from the fire, doesn't mean I've lost control.

No everything is probably okay as long as there's no raid or mech cluster.

Plus, I've learned by now to not have wooden bases, and to keep the flammables and boomalopes on opposite sides of the base. Chemfuel goes over in that little building over there, with a thin roof. Still need to remember that firefoam poppers are a thing.

So it's not a total loss. And that was the highlights of yesterday's play session.

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shalafi 11 points 3 years ago

wait 10 minutes to play a game

When we were in computer camp in '84 or so, it took 10-minutes to load Dungeons & Dragons off the tape drive to the VIC-20. Had to kick it off before break time, and then we had to fight for a spot to play. Read error? Rewind and start again, now break's over.

Rotten assed kids, all of ya.

/old_man_rant

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wahming 8 points 3 years ago

Look, modding is a game on its own. Getting to play the modded game just means you've already won the main event

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tb_ 10 points 3 years ago

Just because there's worse, doesn't mean we should accept bad.

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