Microsoft's Bing search engine claims Australia doesn't exist

3 years ago by Lee Duna to c/technology

Australian users of Bluesky and Mastodon were surprised yesterday to find Bing was informing them that the country they were in didn't actually exist.
AcidOctopus 136 points 3 years ago

You fools! If you die in Australia, you die in real life!

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PixeIOrange 33 points 3 years ago

You cant die in australia because you cant be in australia. You would fall off the world. Duh.

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tetris11 37 points 3 years ago

Um, Australia is required to exist to stop the weight of the US from flipping the Earth plane over. It's literally the counterweight continent.

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PixeIOrange 8 points 3 years ago

But its glued to the bottom. So you would just fall off.

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tetris11 14 points 3 years ago

Speak for yourself, skywalker, some of us tether ourselves everywhere we go.

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letsgo 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks Ptetris11!

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theneverfox 2 points 3 years ago

Only if your gravity harness breaks...

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gravitas_deficiency 72 points 3 years ago

I’ll never forget the fall of Australia during the Emu Wars. The siege of Sydney was truly terrible.

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kambusha 6 points 3 years ago

They were dropping bears. It was horrible.

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IphtashuFitz 5 points 3 years ago

Emus? I think you mean cassowaries…

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AngryCommieKender 9 points 3 years ago

The cassowaries were being controlled by the platypus, who were in turn controlled by huntsman spiders. Drop bears fit in there somewhere......

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MCHEVA4EVA 2 points 3 years ago

Emu war was on the other side of the country.

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middleman35 8 points 3 years ago

The First Emu War was. Emu War II was much more devastating.

Source: Bing

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SteefLem 42 points 3 years ago

Thought that was New Zealand, since thats only on maps 50% of the time

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stifle867 16 points 3 years ago

New Zealand is technically part of Australia anyway (when you have something we want to claim).

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SteefLem 17 points 3 years ago

Oof. I think if nz heard you they will haka your ass ;)

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stifle867 15 points 3 years ago

Ah yes, the classic Australian tribal war dance

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Minarble 3 points 3 years ago

I award you 1 internet.

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cheese_greater 2 points 3 years ago

Is there any equivalent of that ol' Reddit-aroo?

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dellish 1 point 3 years ago

They're well aware. Famous Australians like Russell Crowe and Phar Lap would back up this claim.

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SteefLem 1 point 3 years ago

What the hell is a phar lap. Like you run a lap but far?

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cheese_greater 3 points 3 years ago

I was "thinking" of NZ ;) Not sure about Finland but also, yes \s

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sexeducation 1 point 3 years ago

Who cares about kangaroo land?

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puttybrain 37 points 3 years ago

Google isn't even sure so at least Bing is providing an answer, not that the wrong answer is great

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wrath_of_grunge 40 points 3 years ago

Bing gets you answers fast.

they didn't say they'd be the right answer tho.

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Zyratoxx 25 points 3 years ago

At least Ecosia delivers

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sexeducation 3 points 3 years ago

Imagine using ecosia in 2023. You're being scammed my friend haha

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Zyratoxx 3 points 3 years ago

What kinda scam do you mean. I'm using it since 2017 or so and never heard of it.

(Please don't recommend me DuckDuckGo - I'd rather use Startpage or Qwant for personal reasons)

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RandomVideos 9 points 3 years ago

Kagi also believes Australia is not real

Edit: this also shows up if i set the region to Australia

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Deebster 7 points 3 years ago

Mine shows a bit more context, did you crop it out or is it just a difference in settings?

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RandomVideos 4 points 3 years ago

I cropped it out

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Touching_Grass 29 points 3 years ago

Kind of fucked up that we claim it does exist when you think about it

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ElBarto 26 points 3 years ago

Fuck, who's turn was it to pay off bing this month?!

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ABCDE 18 points 3 years ago

whose

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ElBarto 18 points 3 years ago

This isn't time for semantics, we've gotta problem here!

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essteeyou 7 points 3 years ago

Got a

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ElBarto 8 points 3 years ago

Damnit Jerry, this is why no one invites you to BBQs!

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superduperenigma 26 points 3 years ago

Australian users of Bluesky and Mastodon

Now that's what I like to see!

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lolcatnip 23 points 3 years ago

Search engines don't make claims. They just deliver search results. People who fail to understand the difference have a really hard time interpreting the results.

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BreakDecks 32 points 3 years ago

I wish search engines "just delivered search results". Unfortunately, they now directly and confidently answer questions with complete nonsense.

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lolcatnip 3 points 3 years ago

The vast majority of those answers are still just citing another source, though. The only exceptions I can think of are things like math and unit conversions.

My point is mostly that people insist on treating search engines (and now LLMs) as oracles of truth, and they did that even back when all you got was a list of links with small excerpts. It annoys me to no end when people fail so thoroughly at such a basic test of media literacy and then immediately try to place the blame on someone else.

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HorseWithNoName 6 points 3 years ago

Where the info comes from doesn't exactly change that it's a problem.

You can talk about media literacy, but why even have the thing exist if it can't provide correct answers. That's its only reason for existing.

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lolcatnip 0 points 3 years ago

You seem to be one of the very people I'm complaining about. The point of a search engine absolutely is not to spoon feed you correct answers. It's to find information on the internet that's relevant to a topic. There's lots of wrong information on the internet and it's not a search engine's job to decide for you what's right and what's wrong.

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Rinox 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but it's changing. Search Engines today don't just present you links to other websites, but have also started to take some of that information and show it to you directly. First it was by showing you little excerpts, but now with Bing Chat it's becoming a lot more developed.

With Bing Chat, you ask your search engine a question, and it will answer you directly in a conversation-like manner. This feels a lot more like it's not just showing you a list of sources, but it's answering you directly, making claims, stating "facts" etc. You can easily forget it's just a search engine, can't fault people for this.

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hltdev 21 points 3 years ago

does anyone actually ever use Bing, when not either tricked/manipulated into using it or under some sort of bribe/incentive via ms rewards ?...

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Tanoh 15 points 3 years ago

I got super tired of google a few months ago. "Ah, you searched for these terms. But I am going to ignore that and instead show you results for these diffetent ones, because fu."

So I started using bing instead, I wouldn't say it is worse. Just differently bad. Some search things are much worse, some are much better.

Quite annoying how they keep pushing for "AI" all the time though, so might go back to google soon anyway.

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lemmyvore 14 points 3 years ago

Everybody who uses DDG is mostly using Bing. Albeit more privately.

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PinkPanther 5 points 3 years ago

Huh. I had no idea! And I use DDG... But I feel like all search engines are shit these days. 50% of the hits are autogenerated translations with AI creating false .[country] domain (I'm in Denmark) which are just advertisements. I miss the old days of search engines. Fuck, even Alta Vista gave more right answers back in the Netscape days!

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elgordio 14 points 3 years ago

I use it for free access to gpt-4 and dalle-3. Can’t say I use it as a browser though.

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abhibeckert 2 points 3 years ago

Just so you know - it's nowhere near as good as the "real" gpt-4. Maybe try paying for a month and see how it compares.

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LinkOpensChest_wav 12 points 3 years ago

I will admit that I used it for years for the rewards, and it worked well for me. Once I started using a VPN though, it decided I could only redeem my rewards in Canada (I live in the US). I could have probably fixed it, but it caused me to have one of those "what am I doing anyway" moments and switch to using a SearXNG instance instead.

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Thade780 7 points 3 years ago

Bing is so much better than anything else for image search in my experience. Anything else, lol.

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RobotToaster 3 points 3 years ago

It's video search is good for porn lmao.

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Vilian 2 points 3 years ago

you can search anonynous in bing, that's why Ecosia and DDG use it backend

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Melt 1 point 3 years ago
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Tavarin 1 point 3 years ago

Yep, Bing is pretty solid as far as search engines go.

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MargotRobbie 20 points 3 years ago

...Guess I'm from Queensland, New York now.

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Fades 19 points 3 years ago

Welcome to the states, friend! You picked one hell of a time to join

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS 20 points 3 years ago

Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

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afraid_of_zombies 25 points 3 years ago

You didn't really think there was an overgrown island with rabbits that stand upright and every animal, including dogs, hellbent on killing you?

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cheese_greater 7 points 3 years ago

These things HAPPEN☠️

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mightyfoolish 1 point 3 years ago
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Pratai 6 points 3 years ago
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kat_angstrom 19 points 3 years ago

All LLM replies are hallucinations

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lolcatnip 1 point 3 years ago

The article isn't about LLMs.

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Matriks404 19 points 3 years ago path: 0 5595473, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 0
Lophostemon 11 points 3 years ago

It doesn’t exist. Source: I’m here.

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ABCDE 4 points 3 years ago

Where?

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Lophostemon 5 points 3 years ago

I’m not sure. It doesn’t exist. Perhaps I’m sleeping.

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BlueEther 4 points 3 years ago

It may have existed at some time, but was probably towed out of of the environment after the front fell off

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Archer 3 points 3 years ago

That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point

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Matt 2 points 3 years ago

There

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ToeNailClippings 11 points 3 years ago
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echodot 5 points 3 years ago

The article isn't even about AI. This is just default Bing search. The AI actually does know about Australia.

It's rather like a wild back how Google search said that there were no French military victories in history. It's just bad data collection, nothing to do with AI

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ToeNailClippings 2 points 3 years ago
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son_named_bort 11 points 3 years ago

Australia really is the Wyoming of continents.

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Candelestine 10 points 3 years ago

#AustraliaIsntReal

Wake up sheeple, time to get with the program. It's finally all coming out...

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AceFuzzLord 10 points 3 years ago

This feels just like that situation when gΓΈΓΈgl€ was saying there are no countries beginning with "K" before listening Kenya, except on a continental scale.

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lolcatnip 1 point 3 years ago

gΓΈΓΈgl€

Wow that is really obnoxious.

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Gazumi 8 points 3 years ago

Flat Earth and other loonies will be all over this as an "accidental leak"

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jerome 8 points 3 years ago

Australia is really New Zealand, everyone knows that.

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dellish 5 points 3 years ago

Australians wish! New Zealand tends to get things right.

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HowManyNimons 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5581916 5589690 5604659, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
dellish 2 points 3 years ago

Well... they used to at least :(

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miss_brainfart 7 points 3 years ago

Accoring to my sources, only New Zealand and France are real

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auf 7 points 3 years ago
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tetris11 3 points 3 years ago

Bob Loblaw

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cheese_greater 2 points 3 years ago

BobLoblaw blahblahblah

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brewbellyblueberry 5 points 3 years ago

I mean have you heard an Australian accent? It's like "this is totally a legit accent, we're speaking English, mate, jabbamawong!" half of it isn't even words they just make it up as they go like they're not being sarcastic.

Never bought it.

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Aatube 5 points 3 years ago

It would've been better if they just kept it... I mean, the theory has everybody already

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cheese_greater 5 points 3 years ago

Whats the one that "ackshually" doesn't exist? Its like some running gag or something

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peto 17 points 3 years ago

Finland.

Or New Zealand if you are a cartographer.

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cheese_greater 6 points 3 years ago

NZ

Yessss

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Teknikal 7 points 3 years ago

My brains thinking Finland but I might be wrong.

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Archer 1 point 3 years ago

Can’t have a NATO lake without Finland so of course it exists

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Teknikal 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 5573254 5573288 5589290 5591778, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
GreyEyedGhost 3 points 3 years ago

There's also the city of Bielefeld, which may or may not exist. I mean, I've never seen it.

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RobotToaster 3 points 3 years ago

America, it was just a practical joke.

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cheese_greater 2 points 3 years ago

Ees joke?!

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Aatube 3 points 3 years ago

You

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cheese_greater 1 point 3 years ago

[blood seeping from hands] I must not get in fights I must not get in fights

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havokdj 2 points 3 years ago

Ur mom

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cheese_greater 1 point 3 years ago

ur mom

Yes, ur mom πŸ‘ˆ CONTinue 😹

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Vitaly 2 points 3 years ago

fact

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Pratai 1 point 3 years ago
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assassinatedbyCIA 0 points 3 years ago

We don’t

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Kase 1 point 3 years ago

Alas, Australia was assinated by the CIA

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dellish 4 points 3 years ago

Yep, in 1975. We've been a bit of a puppet ever since.

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egeres 0 points 3 years ago

Who caaaaaares, why is this news 😭? It's been said over and over that these networks aren't reliable and can make mistakes, so what, it will be fixed in a month or so? Is not like these systems are deployed in critical situations or anything

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echodot 10 points 3 years ago

It's been said over and over that these networks aren't reliable

What networks? What are you on about, did you even read the article?

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