Trudeau 'open' to changing O Canada lyrics, says it's up to Canadians | CBC News

3 years ago by grte to c/canadapolitics

zephyreks 20 points 3 years ago

Can we ditch god too? The First Nations have a different concept of religion, for one, and atheism is on the rise in Canada anyway.

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Thalfon 12 points 3 years ago

I have always thought that "Let's keep our land..." would be a more positive and active take than just asking God to take care of it for us.

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leigh 1 point 3 years ago

I absolutely love this suggestion. 🙂

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Evkob 18 points 3 years ago

I'm not Indigenous, but I can't help but feel that stuff like this and land acknowledgements are such empty gestures.

When it comes to inconsequential things like anthems, politicians will say "I'm open to the changes that Canadians want to see!" but you stop hearing stuff like that as soon as Indigenous people start trying to have their rights respected.

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MyFeetOwnMySoul 13 points 3 years ago

I would personally much rather see people on reserves get proper housing and utilities.

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psvrh 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but that would cost money. Cheaper to do this instead.

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MyFeetOwnMySoul 2 points 3 years ago

True.

And depressing.

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i_r_weldr 4 points 3 years ago

100% agree, either give the land back or shut up. Lip service only serves those with white guilt.

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BuzzingWithElectrolytes 17 points 3 years ago

They need to get rid of all the references to god.

Apparently excluding atheists is still socially acceptable though

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Snowpix 9 points 3 years ago

As well as nontheistic/polytheistic religions... it's clearly not inclusive.

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FunderPants 3 points 3 years ago

I agree.

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Noved 17 points 3 years ago

We don't sing god save the queen now that she's gone, I see no issue changing O Canada as Christian religion falls to the way side aswell.

Edit: Actually reading the article like a good lemming, I've come to realize there isn't any actual pitches lyrical changes? Must be a slow news day.

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SpaceCowboy 15 points 3 years ago

It's an awkward line as it is.

I feel like this makes it even more awkward.

I mean the word native can mean "someone born in a place". But sure it's often used to mean to reference indigenous people. But are we redefining the word native to be the same as indigenous? Are they interchangeable?

Then there's the whole "Where are you from? No I mean where are you really from?" line of questioning. Is that correct since we should think that it's not the land of anyone that's not indigenous? It's your home but not your land, even you you're born here?

It feels like a weird empty gesture by people that are well meaning, but haven't really considered what the meaning behind what they're saying. Present day sentiment is fleeting, but the words will be there long after social media has moved on to something else.

I could see the possibility that future generations could interpret it to mean something about how immigrants are making homes on land that really belongs to people born in Canada. Feels unwelcoming.

It's just really awkward. Nice sentiment and all, but too awkward.

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LemmyKravitz 10 points 3 years ago

During this year's NBA All Star game, Jully Black sang the Canadian anthem and she changed a line to "our home ON native land".

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grte 8 points 3 years ago

That's actually the change people are talking about in the article.

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Arodg25 10 points 3 years ago

Let's change the whole thing. Ive never liked the song.

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milpool 8 points 3 years ago

We changed it recently already, I don't see why we can't again

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FunderPants 8 points 3 years ago

Yea, it's not sacred, it's just a song.

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MyFeetOwnMySoul 2 points 3 years ago

Well, news fatigue is possibly a legitimate not to incrementally change the anthem.

Kinda reminds me of Linus Sebastian's (LTT/LMG/WanShow) take on a video game (Beat Saber) where he said he basically doesn't play this game anymore because every time he boots it up, it requires a small update that breaks compatibility for 3rd party mods.

If you make a small change every year, or 5 or whatever, people are all gonna be on different versions of the anthem, and it's gonna be sort of difficult to get everyone on the same page.

Much better to do an outright overhaul.

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Gleddified 7 points 3 years ago

I'm unironically down for going full send and changing the anthem to Stompin' Tom, Out for a Rip, the Log Drivers' Waltz, or anything by Anne Murray.

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Evkob 4 points 3 years ago

Bobcaygeon is now officially Canada's national anthem.

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MyFeetOwnMySoul 1 point 3 years ago

Hockey Song!!

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Tired8281 2 points 3 years ago

Yawn. Every second he spends thinking about this is a waste, that should be spent thinking about actual problems, of which we have plenty without inventing new ones.

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PortableHotpocket -13 points 3 years ago

Jesus, please can we not? Isn't anyone else tired of this obsessive need to put our white guilt into everything? The land was conquered, it's Canada, the native people do not own this land.

I get that the formation of Canada is not morally up to code based on our values today. But I was born in Canada. It is the nation I exist under. Of course there are things I would change if I could, but I accept the circumstances of my birth, accept the Canadian citizenship, and work to make a life within this system.

Why should I be made to feel like a land thief when I was born here? This is also the home of indigenous people. They were born here too. But it is not their land anymore. Can we stop subtley teaching ourselves to act like we're squatting house-guests? Let's just accept the Canadian identity and move forward. Fighting over this is only going to create division and resentment.

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jadero 17 points 3 years ago

Please don't mistake an ongoing political process for historical military conquest. Very little of Canada is territory captured via the spoils of war. The vast majority of Canada is subject to sharing agreements made between governments: treaties. The fact that economic apartheid and failure to honour treaties has left us in the current situation takes nothing away from the fact that indigenous ownership was the central governing concept at the basis of every treaty ever negotiated, whether or not they were ever signed.

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zephyreks 12 points 3 years ago

Except… that’s what happened in the US, not Canada. It’s a failure of Canadian civics education that this isn’t more well-known.

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