fuck the orcs

hate the government not the people am i right?

What do you think the CCCP is?

You know, I agree that he shouldn't have collaborated with America's foreign policy following the sino-soviet split, but I don't think that even puts him as a major candidate in the running.

Edit: He also really should have given the sparrow thing a test run, and there are other criticisms to make, but these are still lesser than the original one. There was bad theory and bad practice in the Cultural Revolution, but overwhelmingly its biggest problem was endangering the revolution that Mao led to establish the PRC in the first place, something for which he deserves credit on account of poverty reduction, drastic increase in life expectancy, land-redistribution, etc. Oh yeah, and the whole "opposing Japanese and British colonialism" thing, since the KMT rolled over for that, but hopefully that goes without saying.

I think Winnie the Pooh got him.

He found a window and pavement

They have comments from a couple hours ago.

Does that mean that you find everything in this thread that hasn't yet been removed to fall within those bounds? (excluding very new stuff that you might not have gotten to)

Freedom of speech with consequences?

you continue to use freedom of speech and dont give them the satisfaction of coopting it

[IANAL] In Germany only specific types of hate speech are criminal. These are:

• Use of Nazi symbols and slogans for other than artistic or educational purposes (things like the Swastika, the SS logo, or the Nazi salute, but not more modern versions like the "white power" guesture and similar)
• Direct calls for violence against groups or individuals
• Denying that the Holocaust happened or trivializing it's extend

Other forms of hate speech might be cause for civil suits or may oblige the platform provider to remove your speech, but do not rise to a criminal offence.

Again: I am not a lawyer.

There are a few assumptions here. One: Criticism (in the context you mention) implies a desire to see the object of discussion improved rather than destroyed. Two: Criticism of "governments in general" rather than specifically one's own government is vital to democracy. Three: That moderation is being done based around whether something is criticism or not rather than it being backed by evidence or not.

As applied to our situation, all of these are overwhelmingly false and one need only look at this thread to understand that.

Its always difficult separating held beliefs from personal or social identity. Evidence for or against something is rarely enough to get someone who has an identity tied to a belief to change thier opinions or not react out of a fight or flight response.

I think setting and enforcing boundaries regularly while not ostracizing or demonizing people is a better way to approach it. Its hard, takes time, and isn't guaranteed to work; but it comes from a place of tolerance and acceptance rather than condemnation.

I agree wholeheartedly that letting rants go on unchallenged is a big issue, it provides a rallying point for others with similar beliefs and pushes the boundary back away from accountability and discussion and towards emotional and fear based outbursts. Do you think there is room for healthy discussion here on the fediverse and specifically in this instance?

Lots of racism in this thread

It was removed, and I was marked as a bot.

I am not a bot!

Just a couple of days I got over 800k views for posting ⚠ A MAN HAS BEEN SPOTTED PROTESTING IN LEGO CITY ⚠. Now deleted, or maybe on privat.

Just imagine how much interesting and actually usefull information will be gone just because of a selfish CEO..

Really makes me think why you'd spend time defending a government massacre of 1500-4000 protesters, with 10,000 injured.

I was always under the assumption it was some weird alt right thing where they just pretend criticism of China gets censored.

I mean what was lemmy supposed to do? It already removed karma. People just like approval and attention

Probably not, .ml is free (provided by the same registrar as .tk) on a year-by-year basis and was much more popular around the time lemmy started.

The Romans are great! They build these seriously sturdy roads and aqueducts, promote trade, and they have some literature and stuff. It's too bad that they're in the habit of enslaving people and occasionally mass crucifixions.

Huh, I didn't expect this to be controversial.

My point was, a civilization can do a lot of awesome things and a lot of shitty things. Pointing out that the Romans mass-crucified enslaved people following the Spartacus revolt isn't anti-Italian bigotry. Correctly stating that the US state where I was born was founded as a white-separatist colony is not anti-Oregon bias; it's simply true.

The government of China does some massively awful & unjust things; but Chinese people are still ~1/6 of the humans and probably ~1/6 of the awesome humans too.

Very normal thing to say.

they're not chinese, they're 'good people'!

Thanks. I had a feeling someone was talking out of their ass, but I didn't have a way to confirm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noQXojwExRA

That works for me. I can't think of very many the places I'd direct it. All similar to Putin though.

How is writing a high-effort long comment explaining one's viewpoints, with sources to back up the opinion-- ragebait? Ragebait is low-effort content that only seeks to troll.

"Anyone who doesn't agree with me is rage-baiting especially if they use data to do it."

It isn't high effort. It's a bunch of canned "gender critical" arguments that we've all seen a thousand times before combined with arbitrarily dismissing all of the evidence in favor of gender affirming care for kids using specious reasoning and then citing long debunked studies like the "80% desistance rate" one.

Their bias is even more clearly demonstrated by the fact that the first study they cite isn't hosted on any legitimate source of medical science, but on "transgendertrend." That demonstrates that they didn't find their data via PubMed or Google Scholar or anything, they found it by looking for cherry picked medical studies from people with an anti-trans agenda.

It's transphobia and perpetuation of misinformation disguised as a polite conversation. It's the same level of "discourse" as "blacks make up 12% of the population and commit 50% of the crime."

Edit: not only is it arbitrary and awfully convenient for cherry-picking purposes to leave out longitudinal studies of mental health, since mental health is what's at stake here, and "objective" measures are susceptible to many confounding variables and often not relevant, and standardized tests of mental health are regularly used to ascertain the efficacy of many procedures related to psychology, there are also studies that use "objective" measures such as the ones he wanted, where applicable. Here's one that's somewhat infamous due to one of the young adults getting a fatal complication from a surgery, but such surgeries are not performed on minors, and are not particularly dangerous, so it's largely irrelevant: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25201798/. Here's a list of 16 studies on this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/....