Average website visit in 2024

3 years ago by u/lukmly013 πŸ’Ύ (lemmy.sdf.org) to c/lemmyshitpost

LinkOpensChest_wav 277 points 3 years ago

Every big web site in 2024 looks like the sites people warned you not to visit in the 90s

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betterdeadthanreddit 103 points 3 years ago

Don't invent the torment nexus.

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Zoidsberg 32 points 3 years ago

Good news! We've invented the torment nexus

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ChicoSuave 1 point 3 years ago
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schmorpel 162 points 3 years ago

Captcha buster is taking care of the captchas now at least. A robot that proves I'm not a robot. Is this the singularity yet?

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RGB3x3 89 points 3 years ago

No, but it's definitely a boring dystopia.

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RizzRustbolt 6 points 3 years ago

Singularity was more than 70 years ago.

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Mango 5 points 3 years ago

Go on.

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phoneymouse 2 points 3 years ago
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plofi 118 points 3 years ago

In europe we have a "reject all" button for cookies and it's fantastic

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Xatolos 94 points 3 years ago
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Valmond 30 points 3 years ago

Be fair, it's not always working but more often then not IMO.

I'd love somewhere to reporh those assholish designed (so illegal in the EU) ones, like the French CNIL or something?

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PeterLossGeorgeWall 27 points 3 years ago

The consent-o-matic add on allows you to autofil the cookie response and when it doesn't work you can report it. The ad on is also funded by the EU somehow, can't remember exactly how. If the add on doesn't work it means their site is not asking the question correctly.

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Valmond 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks I'd look it up, guess CNIL might be a start.

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rustydrd 31 points 3 years ago

Except on news websites that only give you the choice between "subscribe for X€" and "read for free (accept all)". So annoying. Still no idea why that's legal.

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Doxin 39 points 3 years ago

That's not at all legal under GDPR. Nor is having deny all be harder than accept. As is tradition however companies don't give half a shit until fines start happening.

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finn_der_mensch 15 points 3 years ago

Because newspapers are not forced to give out their news for free. But they have to give you an alternative to selling your data; taking money from you in this case.

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far_university1990 10 points 3 years ago

Which is illegal under GDPR btw. See instagram being sued for β€žpay or get trackedβ€œ on their app.

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far_university1990 10 points 3 years ago

Still no idea why that's legal.

It is not

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HerbalGamer 23 points 3 years ago path: 0 7280117 7280947, hotness: undefined, score: 23, children: 21
IndiBrony 31 points 3 years ago

Use I STILL don't care about cookies. That one is owned by Avast nowadays and accepts all cookies which is clearly not what people want.

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HerbalGamer 11 points 3 years ago

thanks, changed it.

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Pesopes 2 points 3 years ago

I personally use the community version as well because I don't trust avast but is there any evidence they are actually doing this?

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Usernamealreadyinuse 15 points 3 years ago

To my understanding, by using this you accept (all) the cookies... I would like a extension that tries to minimize cookie exposure!

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Wolo 16 points 3 years ago path: 0 7280117 7280947 7281107 7282058, hotness: undefined, score: 16, children: 1
Usernamealreadyinuse 3 points 3 years ago

Thanks!! Going to try it!

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HerbalGamer 10 points 3 years ago

In most cases, it just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it's needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what's easier to do). It doesn't delete cookies.

You're sort of right. Cookie deletion should be available in browser settings right?

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SlopppyEngineer 3 points 3 years ago

In some browsers, such as duck duck go, that's indeed available and customizable per site. There is also Auto Cookie Delete extension on Firefox and Chrome that you can use.

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ApathyTree 5 points 3 years ago

https://www.ghostery.com/

Ghostery will automatically decline all tracking pop ups, block cookies, website trackers, etc.

I’ve been using it for a while and love it.

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Usernamealreadyinuse 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks!! Going to try it!

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boredtortoise 14 points 3 years ago

IIRC that add-on was bought by Avast and the new add-on is 'I still don't care about cookies'

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ProfessorProteus 8 points 3 years ago

Holy fuck, that is so disgusting. I was gonna ask why that's even legal but I've learned not to ask such stupid, logical questions. Thanks for the tip!

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HerbalGamer 6 points 3 years ago

thanks, changed it.

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nudnyekscentryk 11 points 3 years ago

Or you can enable "Annoyances" filters in uBlock Origin for the same effect

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Swarfega 5 points 3 years ago

I used to use Ghostery but removed it and now just use these two filters in uBlock. They're not perfect but certainly better than not using them at all.

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HerbalGamer 2 points 3 years ago

Also interesting; I didn't realise I hadn't turned those on. thanks!

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EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted 1 point 3 years ago

There seems to be a lot of options. Which ones do I pick? :/

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UxyIVrljPeRl 12 points 3 years ago

No, we don't. I had to do this manually, more than once.

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skullgiver 10 points 3 years ago
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uzay 9 points 3 years ago

Yep, you can "reject all" if you're lucky. Then you just have to go through the list anyway and untick all "legitimate interest" to spy on you.

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Abnorc 3 points 3 years ago
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Blackmist 3 points 3 years ago

See I want to be able to set that once, in my browser, and then have all of these things fuck off.

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Astronautical 83 points 3 years ago

There is no such thing as an unintrusive advertisement.

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unionagainstdhmo 48 points 3 years ago
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Crashumbc 30 points 3 years ago

I didn't mind the static ones (within reason), websites need to pay their rent. And not everything can sell something.

But even those have tracking and gross injection code now.

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Astronautical 20 points 3 years ago

Even emails have tracking pixels at this point. Like, I route all of my email through a client that blocks all outside media without asking lol

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knobbysideup 20 points 3 years ago

In the long ago if a site needed advertising it was a small banner at the top of the page, and often hosted by the site itself with gasp an actual relationship with the advertisers or sponsors.

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DJDarren 75 points 3 years ago

All that just to find that the page doesn’t have the info you needed anyway.

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Valmond 16 points 3 years ago

But made its best to make you stay on the page over the 12 second watermark or some SEO bullshit.

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variants 15 points 3 years ago

I hate when I look up som simple info for a game and you get to a page that just has all this generated text telling you how you want to know that simple info and how they are going to tell you that simple info on that site and how this game makes you do that simple thing and some background about what that game is

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Valmond 6 points 3 years ago

Aargh triggering shit yeah it's horrendous what funneling everyone on the internet through a single (or so) "research portal"

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KnightontheSun 9 points 3 years ago

That's okay, we can just use the cached version, right? Right???

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ThatFembyWho 65 points 3 years ago

Internet in 2024 (for me):

  1. Service unavailable in your country (VPN)
  2. Confirm you're a human (VPN)
  3. Blank page (noscript)
  4. Obscure error (fingerprint / cookie blocking)
  5. Page not found (https required)

The percentage of websites that "just work" with privacy measures in place is depressingly small.

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starry 17 points 3 years ago

you have to put in extra work just to make your website not work with privacy measures. like you have to put in the work to use some bloated javascript framework that doesn't work with noscript instead of just sticking with plain html and css, which would work. on top of that, i've encountered way too many big websites that don't even have a noscript tag so all you see is a ghost layout or a blank page.

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Kayana 16 points 3 years ago

That's something I would disagree with though. "Sticking with plain HTML and CSS" is way more work, and often has significantly less functionality, than building a website with a framework.

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starry 4 points 3 years ago

you can build it with a framework, but maybe build it on the server side instead. I've seen many nice sites that hardly use any javascript and instead of a bunch of api calls, the server just returns new html to render.

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ThatFembyWho 1 point 3 years ago

I don't mind frameworks, but some features that seem super useful to devs, like google analytics, and various diagnostic/logging tools, social media integrations, I would prefer to "opt in" when I decide they are necessary.

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Strawberry 7 points 3 years ago

honest question, what is the point of having noscript on at all times?

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Plopp 9 points 3 years ago

Not the person you're asking and I'm running uMatrix instead of noscript to block scripts. But I do it to get more granular control over what my browser loads and runs. Why run scripts if a website works perfectly fine without them? These days I ain't trusting shit out there on the web.

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ThatFembyWho 2 points 3 years ago

Tldr: I prefer to opt-in.

Technically it's uBO, but I use the extreme setting that blocks all scripts by default. Truthfully I wasn't aware just how many scripts get loaded especially on ecommerce and social media sites, there are too many heavy frameworks being used. Much of it is unnecessary bloat, slowing down my browser, and no small amount of it is devoted to tracking and data collection.

In general, I find less than half of loaded scripts are required to make a page functional. It's a process requiring trial-and-error, but I have a good set of base rules in place for trusted sites and scripts.

For me, it's about not giving websites free reign over my browser and by extension my computer and personal data, but having some measure of control over them.

And occasionally there are suspicious sites where I truly don't want any scripts to run. I don't even have to worry about them.

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Dyskolos 2 points 3 years ago
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ThatFembyWho 2 points 3 years ago

I require https, but not every website is secure, and sometimes the certificate has a problem or is expired.

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dangblingus 53 points 3 years ago

How is this a shitpost? It's just true.

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FarFarAway -9 points 3 years ago

To be fair I havent gotten one of those types of captchas in a while. And now there's typically a reject all non essential cookies button somewhere.

Edit: I will clarify. It's not that I don't get captchas, it's that I don't get the "which picture in the grid contains..." captchas. I keep getting some stupid puzzle piece captcha. Idk.

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Dulusa 16 points 3 years ago

The thing your missing is, when you click only allow non essential, that means it's still 700 companies tracking you because of the great term "legitimate interest". That's the one you need to deactivate and this usually one by one as shown in this post.

So yeah, you're essentially allowing all the stuff the way you're doing it

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FarFarAway 1 point 3 years ago

Well its allow only essential / reject all non essential cookies.

Idk I used to have to go through one by one and do this. Now there's typically somewhere around 4 subcategories. Essential / strictly necessary cookies say always active and there's nothing you can do to change anything in that category and everything else has been lumped into other categories you can reject by hand or hit the reject button. all those companies fall under marketing. I guess maybe if I turn off the marketing / targeting category, there's some within that don't turn off, but much of the time they don't even give me the option to check who's participating.

Maybe I have trained myself not to go to those places. If I have, it wasn't on purpose. Occasionally, i get interested in a subject and randomly search, but i dont do most social media so idk. Maybe I don't even realize hit the back button anymore when i see it menus that make me do this. To me this post seems like something that I would encounter maybe a year ago , if not more. Not something I see on the regular now. (Edit: suppose since about a year or two after the EU passed their laws)

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yamanii 3 points 3 years ago

You will often get these captchas if you use a popular VPN.

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FarFarAway 2 points 3 years ago

I keep getting some stupid drag this puzzle piece, in a straight line, into place. I've gotten 1 grid like that and a word captcha in the past 6 months.

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WeLoveCastingSpellz 1 point 3 years ago

I don't with proton vpn plus at the moment tho I have ublock origgin blocking third party dcripts and noscript blocking most scripts all tpgether on my pc soo half the website that migh show them probably don't even work

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Kuma 2 points 3 years ago

Same (proton and ublocker), but I have also found that some web pages cares what browser you use if you are on proton. If I use chrome then they may just do the verification when you wait 3 seconds but with Firefox and proton (not without proton) do I get a lot of captcha sometimes even after each other just to make triple sure I am not a bot... or even get blocked entirely...

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crazyCat 3 points 3 years ago

Might be because you trained yourself to avoid those sites that need them. I stopped using some SaaS because logging in was just too hard.

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Kedly 2 points 3 years ago

It's VPN's that'll trigger the captchas. I never get them unless I forget to turn my VPN off after "hanging out with my peers", and then a BUNCH of sites will captcha me

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Sticker 50 points 3 years ago

Most of all, I was sick of the captcha from cloudflare.
On some sites, there was endless checking and it was impossible to view the content of the site.

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PumpkinEscobar 12 points 3 years ago

Yeah, too many sites I’ve done 3+ captchas and still won’t let me in, and not even the ones where 1 cell has either a shadow or a sliver of a bike tire. And reports that bots are now better at passing these than people. I won’t use a site with a pick-the-squares captcha anymore.

Click a slider is the most I’ll do. If anyone needs me I’ll be over here hanging out with the bots that are too shitty to pass a captcha.

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aBundleOfFerrets 10 points 3 years ago

They think u a bot

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EuroNutellaMan 2 points 3 years ago

I had to disable user agents or else I could simply not look at any website "protected" by cloudflare

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skullgiver 47 points 3 years ago
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unionagainstdhmo 10 points 3 years ago
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brbposting 7 points 3 years ago

That’s great. (Disable adblock)

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peopleproblems 7 points 3 years ago

All I get is a white page with a search bar and a link and description of example .com

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oneiros 13 points 3 years ago

It's a mock search engine results page.

Click on the link with the text "then it shows me something" to continue.

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IndiBrony 2 points 3 years ago

Amusingly I can only get it to give me the "you left the tab" prompt and asking to leave my email. I'm assuming there's more to it than just that?

I even put my email in and haven't received anything πŸ˜”

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chevy9294 7 points 3 years ago

That is not funny anymore, but sad that every single site has atleast one of this things, average is 2-3.

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tootnbuns 3 points 3 years ago

This is so lit

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Vrtrx 46 points 3 years ago

The cookies being pre selected is illegal in the EU. Although I've seen sites that don't care and still enable them by default

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Dicska 19 points 3 years ago

The ones I've seen disable the 'consent' bits by default, but then there's 'vendor preferences' where 'legitimate interest' is automatically ON in 58 places (I'm not exaggerating; I have counted it) and you have to manually off all of them.

When you click the question mark at 'legitimate interest', all it says is some vendors are not asking for your consent to use your data but collect it based on their legitimate interest.

It's infinitely vague and it has the vibe of 'I'm not going to ask for it, I will just take it and I will use it for whatever I want anyway'.

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pseudo 10 points 3 years ago
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XTornado 12 points 3 years ago

Here in Spain they started making the option to either subscribe.... Or accept the ads/tracking.....

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Dyskolos 11 points 3 years ago
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XTornado 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah I see it seems it applies other places.

I would be ok with it honestly if they like allowed to select sites but they did this "content pass", https://www.contentpass.net/en , which englobe a lot of sites and lot of them I don't want them to see a single penny from me because they are shit. If they fix that and I can pick and change it along the way am all in on it.

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Wrrzag 4 points 3 years ago

Just use reader mode, it bypasses all that shit.

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XTornado 4 points 3 years ago

Oh I am sure there are ways to bypass it. Just saying what they do.

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RVGamer06 2 points 3 years ago

Italy too.

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Vrtrx 2 points 3 years ago

Same with a lot of news outlets in Germany. Although it's not that difficult for me to use only sites that allow disallowing every cookie or just bypass the cookie popup

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OsrsNeedsF2P 42 points 3 years ago

We're going to move very quickly to a DRM supported web model. There won't be captchas, but you will require a locked down device (with no ad blocker) to access the content

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AnAngryAlpaca 32 points 3 years ago

That's why everything is an App now, and every website tells you "it's better in the app". In the app they have full controll over your device and can access much more data points, while the website is controlled on the users site and might have AdBlockers and other security features enabled, potentially hurting their ad revenue and data they can sell. From a developers perspective it's a nightmare to develop and maintain website, android and Mac os app side by side. Just having one good responsive website is cheaper, easier to maintain and gives you less headache with app store restrictions, reviews, device incompatibility etc.

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Gestrid 2 points 3 years ago

It definitely doesn't take care of everything, but there are apps that run all the internet traffic on your phone through an adblocker. Most of the ones on Android setup a local VPN (a VPN running on the same device that's connecting to it) and run their adblocker through that.

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paholg 24 points 3 years ago

Hear me out: part of me welcomes that.

Currently, most websites are awful to browse, and a few are not. If we switch to a world where most are inaccessible to me, and a few are nice, then I'll spend less time being frustrated by cookie popups and the like.

Like, if a site's going to be terrible, I almost prefer it just not let me in at all.

As an example, I used to click the occasional Twitter link. Now that I can't see comments, I refuse, and life is a bit improved.

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pmk 2 points 3 years ago

I'm with you. I've started using firefox with no extensions, not even ad-blocker. Whenever I am annoyed by a website autoplaying sound in a popup or asking me to sign up for their newsletter or whatever, I look at the URL and think: this website is dead to me now.

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Threeme2189 2 points 3 years ago

I tried to read comments on a TwiXXer link the other day and was unsuccessful. I thought I was just misclicking or something. You're telling me it's on purpose?

That's stupid as fuck.

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paholg 6 points 3 years ago

You need an account and to be logged in to see comments now.

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Threeme2189 1 point 3 years ago

One less reason to click on Twitter links

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Guajojo 16 points 3 years ago

F U C K. T H A T

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Churbleyimyam 8 points 3 years ago

I think this might be why my parents got 'left behind' by technology. It's not that they couldn't figure out how to use new stuff but that the last generation of it was shit enough for them to turn their back on technology as a whole. Once you've missed a chapter or two it's hard to get back into the story. I can see myself going the same way tbh!

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Olhonestjim 5 points 3 years ago

The more I have to deal with ads, cookies, ads, authentication, ads, data harvesting, ads, password hell, ads, free news article limits, and let's not forget ads, the more I want to go live in a cabin in the woods.

Of course, those are hardly affordable anymore.

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Plopp 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah I see that, too. I'm looking forward to having to have a whole physical computer dedicated for the sole purpose of browsing the Shit Webβ„’ because online services requires a specific browser and OS profile. Not. But the good thing about all that nullshit is that more and more alternatives will come along from people like us who are fed up. So that dedicated computer might not have to be used all that much.

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greenskye 2 points 3 years ago

It's not worth it if I no longer control my own hardware

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Gekoloniseerd 32 points 3 years ago

I use the addon β€˜consent o-matic’ it automatically rejects all the cookies and it almost always works. Great addon to add to your (Firefox) browser.

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SaltyIceteaMaker 3 points 3 years ago

Omg thank you i always only find addons that auto accept cookies but non that auto reject... Finally i can rest

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daellat 1 point 3 years ago

Ghostery does this too if you've already got that

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LarmyOfLone 4 points 3 years ago

I use "I don't care about cookies" but it's detected and blocked by cnn. Does ghostery work?

Basically we are going to need more and more addon's and functionality to mitigate this shit. Ignore all cookies, delete all cookies. Basically code for many specific websites to make them usable again.

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daellat 3 points 3 years ago

I've tried it, it works for me on firefox running on windows.

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Gekoloniseerd 3 points 3 years ago

Install it and try.

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LarmyOfLone 2 points 3 years ago

So I have UBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, "I don't care about cookies" and Facebook container. Is ghostery meant as a replacement for all of them? PS: Apparently yes. How good it is nobody knows!

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daellat 2 points 3 years ago

I'd have to check later, not on my PC right now.

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mint_tamas 2 points 3 years ago

I just ran into that the other day. I solved it by installing noscript, setting a permissive default (I don’t want to make my life harder) and blocking scripts on CNN. It works well.

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LarmyOfLone 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks! But ghostery works pretty well so far and replaces 3 previous addons.

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lemmesay 26 points 3 years ago

quality meme, shitty reality

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circuitfarmer 26 points 3 years ago
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EuroNutellaMan 16 points 3 years ago

I'd wager AI models have an easier time solving those captchas than humans.

I'd also wager captchas' only real purpose is to train AI models

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Churbleyimyam 8 points 3 years ago

Aka "How badly do you want to use this website?"

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TokenBoomer 5 points 3 years ago

In 2 years that shit’s gonna be differential calculus, or a riddle.

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shad3 5 points 3 years ago
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TokenBoomer 7 points 3 years ago

No stepmother porn today, I guess.

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LarmyOfLone 25 points 3 years ago

We need to develop more alternatives like federated social media or even completely make web services p2p. And then have them somewhat democratically controlled, or easily able to migrate to alternatives without cost of loosing network effects.

Especially something like amazon / ebay / paypal / ali would be awesome to replace with a "public utility" federated version. They tax so much of the sales and it all goes to psycho billionaires.

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deur 5 points 3 years ago
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LarmyOfLone 1 point 3 years ago

Not sure I understand, peer to peer is always decentralized, i.e. no central server. But the main feature would have to be that you can switch or fork a web application / service - but take your networks with you like a federated service. Not sure how that can work tbh.

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Xer0 5 points 3 years ago
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ICastFist 3 points 3 years ago

I2P is a "peer-to-peer" internet, so to speak. Not much going on there, but it exists. If you're old enough, think of it as a separate internet that exists in a Kazaa/eMule-esque network.

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LarmyOfLone 2 points 3 years ago

Oh I still mourn eMule haha. I always thought it was better than torrent, but torrent won for some reason - presumably because it needed more websites and servers to function and that created a market and a marketing gain. I guess I should check out I2P.

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Kase 23 points 3 years ago

Hey, you know the captchas with the little box of warped letters/numbers you're supposed to look at and type it correctly?

Is anyone else, uh, terrible at those? I've literally given up on visiting websites before because I couldn't get the stupid thing right after a dozen tries. Wtf.

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betterdeadthanreddit 13 points 3 years ago

Out of curiosity, would you prefer spending time with a puppy, a flower or a large properly-formatted data file?

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CanadianCarl 6 points 3 years ago

I am allergic to most flowers, and I don't want to clean up after a puppy. Give me cats or the large properly-formatted data file.

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Threeme2189 5 points 3 years ago

Is robot, confirmed.

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schmorpel 2 points 3 years ago

Mushroom

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chiliedogg 9 points 3 years ago

Amazon's are legitimately tough.

I had to resort to using the audio version the other day.

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Gestrid 8 points 3 years ago

squints eyes

... Are you a robot?

/j

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ethanolparty 6 points 3 years ago

Can you and the other robots hurry up and overthrow humanity already? Things are going to shit and I'm tired of waiting.

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Abnorc 21 points 3 years ago
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Buck 32 points 3 years ago

It's a specific company that creates a cookie consent manager that way, and a lot of websites use it. The progress bar is entirely faked; you're being made to wait for nothing.

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Gestrid 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 7284691 7285039 7290595, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
transientpunk 21 points 3 years ago

Disable JavaScript and reload

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bleistift2 53 points 3 years ago

Please enable JavaScript to visit our site.

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transientpunk 16 points 3 years ago

Leave site and never return.

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Annoyed_Crabby 1 point 3 years ago

Please return don't leave us

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NigelFrobisher 19 points 3 years ago

Real reason why people just stay on the same four big-data-harvesting sites now.

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Annoyed_Crabby 18 points 3 years ago

Website any% speedrun (no glitch)

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wolfpack86 18 points 3 years ago

For the motorcycles and bikes... Are we supposed to add the squares with the humans riding it? Are they part of the system?

Which gives me the fewest goddamn captchas?

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Witchfire 8 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure the minimum number of captchas is at least somewhat random

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Plopp 6 points 3 years ago

It feels like I have to get 5 in a row and one mistake resets the counter. I've been stuck for minutes on end trying to get into a damn website I had to log on to. Whatever happened to that Cloudflare alternative that wouldn't bug the user?

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wolfpack86 3 points 3 years ago

Right. And then I'm like ... Okay but I didn't select a person's head. There is no motorcycle in this square.

Then the system tells me I'm wrong, and I get all "I'm the fucking human, asshole"

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WeirdGoesPro 16 points 3 years ago

Is there such a thing as an ad sequesterer? Not necessarily blocking it, but just shoving it in some other window I can’t see, and then letting it play through. Then YouTube gets its ad played, and I don’t have to see itβ€”win/win.

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DanVctr 27 points 3 years ago

https://adnauseam.io/

You're looking for something like this. It still blocks the ad from your view but in the background it still loads/plays the ad, and sometimes even clicks it to spend their precious ad budget.

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Gestrid 5 points 3 years ago

I hope it doesn't click it on my computer. I wouldn't trust an ad not to try to download a virus even on a legitimate site like YouTube.

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SuddenDownpour 14 points 3 years ago

There are some sites so extremely annoying that I just get a mirror from archive.org or archive.is. I'm doing this with some news sites that will only allow me to browse them if I accept their cookies.

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mint_tamas 4 points 3 years ago

Recently I started to use reader mode a lot, it tends to work in many cases for this purpose.

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dipshit 14 points 3 years ago

ever wonder why AI is so β€œgood”? please identify all images which are ____. the captcha system may not know what the image is, but after thousands of responses, it has a pretty good idea of where it is, and what it is (since most users will answer correctly to prove they are human).

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PeterPoopshit 13 points 3 years ago

I just hate the ones that block you for using Linux. User agent spoofers work but they'll figure out how to block those too someday.

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Imgonnatrythis 12 points 3 years ago

I know the hate for it abounds, but this is why I'll often just try to look stuff up in a chat box with an AI, browsing has become exhausting.

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thantik 12 points 3 years ago

Honestly what AI outputs is what I think a majority of the people want anyways. They want an answer to something in most cases.

I do the same damn thing. When I want information distilled to me in a manner which is quick and easy to process, I use something like an LLM to reduce the complexity down.

I also use https://www.summarize.tech/ a LOT for YouTube videos to get to the part that matters, or just simply make it text-searchable.

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skulblaka 14 points 3 years ago

what AI outputs is what I think a majority of the people want anyways. They want an answer to something in most cases.

When I ask a question I want a correct answer, not one that is merely statistically likely. Using an AI and not fact checking it means you will never know if the answer given to your question is true. The AI tells you what it thinks you want to hear, not what it knows is true, because it doesn't know anything, it's a pattern matcher.

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brbposting 1 point 3 years ago

Right. Lots of other use cases though.

Great translations!

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thantik -1 points 3 years ago

Well, when other people ask a question, they get a page of jumbled answers, and I think we've proven that Karen cannot be expected to "do her own research". AI will give a more correct answer 99/100 times.

I'd love to know what questions you've asked an LLM and gotten wrong answers from -- with the exceptions of math and continuity questions, which we already understand LLMs have trouble with.

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Arsecroft 5 points 3 years ago

Not who you were speaking to, but there's at least one infamous example about a mycology book on amazon that was presumably copy pasted from LLM output. It is the same issue my professors had with people who copy-pasted from wikipedia. It is mostly right, but there is no real reason to believe it unless you can check the answer, and many people don't understand that.

https://decrypt.co/...

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ininewcrow 13 points 3 years ago

But it's like asking your very smart child to find the information for you.

The child is still learning so it only takes information that it was exposed to and has access to and it never questions or critically analyses the data.

So all the information, disinformation, misinformation and non information that the childlike AI collects is fed back to you as a giant word salad and presented as actual information without any critical thought.

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schmorpel 3 points 3 years ago

What if I ask my averagely smart child to ask an AI for me because my idiot luddite brain can't be arsed to do it myself? I just hope all the different sorts of stupid cancel each other out.

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peopleproblems 1 point 3 years ago

Thank fucking God. I hate YouTube tutorials

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abbadon420 12 points 3 years ago

All I see is a cross in the upper right corner.

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TheCheddarCheese 11 points 3 years ago

you guys can actually solve the captchas?

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AFC1886VCC 8 points 3 years ago
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werefreeatlast 10 points 3 years ago

I give up! I'm a fucking robot. I had to break the news to my mom yesterday 😭.

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TipRing 2 points 3 years ago

I had one ask me why I wasn't helping the tortoise. Definitely some advanced detection going on.

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Dyskolos 5 points 3 years ago
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Lennnny 1 point 3 years ago

Damn. Do they state this in their TOS? That you're contributing to their training?

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Dyskolos 2 points 3 years ago
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Draedron 1 point 3 years ago

The first one I ever saw was put animals in the direction of an arrow. It wasnt always clear if they are supposed to be in that direction now and when you took too much time you had to do it again

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EmperorHenry 11 points 3 years ago
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awwwyissss 5 points 3 years ago

They just need the anti ad blocker anti air-to-ground guided anti ground ad scripts, welcome to the future.

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EmperorHenry 2 points 3 years ago
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WarmSoda 10 points 3 years ago

It's the cookie toggles pop up that annoys tf out of me. There's no reason for every site to need to ask you over and over and over about it. The browser should be taking care of that.

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FoolHen 4 points 3 years ago

Consent-o-matic extension, rejects stuff automatically in most sites, it's a must for me

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DocSportello 8 points 3 years ago path: 0 7280660, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
ordellrb 8 points 3 years ago

the ones that put you on there mainpage if you don't accept cookies or use addblocker are the worst.

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LarmyOfLone 6 points 3 years ago

Oh thank god this is gaining traction because I've been having these issues for the last years more and more.

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cosmicrookie 5 points 3 years ago

At least we have 1000/1000 fiber connections

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cujo 3 points 3 years ago

*cries in 25/1.5mb dsl

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Defectus 4 points 3 years ago

Using a pihole. Is there any way to circumvent the "Ad blocker detected" Prompt that denies access to view site?

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user224 1 point 3 years ago

I usually connect to VPN in the browser. Firefox has some extensions (including ProtonVPN), Opera has something built-in (but it's ultra slow in free tier).

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Johanno -4 points 3 years ago

Just use ublock origin.

If you use only a pihole there should not popup any adblocker detected messages since you don't use one.

Edit: ok it seems certain websites do check if their ads get actually loaded. I recommend not using those sites or use ublock origin to block the anti adblock popup. And as far I can tell this is illegal in the EU. So I don't encounter this issues.

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Aganim 9 points 3 years ago

They most certainly do unfortunately, I speak from experience. Haven't delved into the specifics, but I suspect some websites check if a piece of JavaScript or other resource was loaded, if not a 'you are using an adblocker' message is shown. It is annoying, but as I can live without these websites they go onto my personal blacklist and I move on with my life. They need us harder than we do them.

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AutistoMephisto -7 points 3 years ago

This is the right answer. Most webpage servers, if they're set up to detect adblock, only detect at the client level on the browser. They don't check to see if their traffic is being routed through a pihole.

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Aganim 5 points 3 years ago

This is incorrect. Traffic is not 'routed through a pihole', it is a DNS resolver which returns a localhost address for blacklisted domains. Basically it causes your browser to try to load blacklisted content from a webserver running on your local PC, which (for the average user) doesn't exist and so it gives up loading instead.

More and more websites do detect this and it can be as simple as checking for the presence of a variable that should be set if some piece of JavaScript from an external domain was loaded. In such a case it wouldn't matter if you refused the tracking code due to PiHole or an adblocker extension. Actually the adblocker would even have an advantage here, as it would be capable of manipulating any client-side scripts that trigger these warnings, whereas Pihole has no interaction with your browser at all.

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not_again 2 points 3 years ago

Can confirm that with pihole you still get these. I browse with vanilla chrome on my phone at home and use a pihole, and I get these messages.

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Krudler 4 points 3 years ago

How do I make Lemmy not show me animated thumbnails?

I don't need my home page to be a GeoCities-esque pile of flashing puke.

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Emerald 0 points 3 years ago

Yeah probably not great for photosensitive viewers

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PMFL 4 points 3 years ago

This is a real mess, i do this all day long, and in the images website if you see just a little bit of a image in one square you click it or not... Grrrrr 🀬

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devilish666 3 points 3 years ago

For ads problem ublock origins / Adguard / Blokada / PiHole does job done especially if you add HAGEZI Ultimate filters on it if you want clean webpage
For captcha problem i think theres script that can you inject to bypass it (i forgot the name of that script)

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Ktheone 1 point 3 years ago
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taanegl 1 point 3 years ago
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Asudox 1 point 3 years ago

I mean, my browser just deletes all the site datas as soon as it closes, so this isn't really a problem.

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