startrek.website is a partnership between /r/StarTrek and /r/DaystromInstitute from Reddit, they've both locked their subs over there for good. Follow @startrek for all your Trek needs. 🖖 :trek:
startrek.website is a partnership between /r/StarTrek and /r/DaystromInstitute from Reddit, they've both locked their subs over there for good. Follow [@startrek](https://startrek.website/c/startrek)
3 years ago by Stoat to c/startrek
To put it another way, the Fediverse is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.
meh
I'm replying to a mastodon post, from a separate lemmy instance federated with startrek.website.
I'm living in the future.
no sir. this is the federation.
I thought we were the borg
I'm replying to your post on a lemmy instance federated with startrek.website, from another lemmy instance federated with lemmy.world.
Things get mighty confusing, but fun in their own ways.
EDIT: Also didn't realise that this was a Mastodon post, but that would explain why some of the comments have a bit of unusual formatting.
And now I have the Pearl Jam song stuck in my head. Thanks.
I'm in the same boat! None of the big, general-purpose instances had quite what I was looking for. A dedicated one for Star Trek makes me feel like I'm on-school Star Trek forums again, which is the way to (boldly) go.
Do you Federation enthusiasts know that Lemmy developers are using Star Trek names for their testing instances?
Clearly I'm living on another instance, but I'm wondering is startrek.website community creation is locked or not? Feels like all the different Trek sub-communities should be hosted here. Show specific ones like Lower Decks, things like Star Trek Online, etc. but so far it seems like its just the big 3.
I wanna see a r/shittydaystrom here as well
its such a fun sub
and don't forget about /r/tenagra
His arms open
Reddit, its face white, its eyes red.
There is a whole lot of love love for ShittyDaystrom on this mod team, so no worries. It'll be here!
Your username should either be Computer or The Warp Core.
"This is your friendly, positronic, pissed off system admin, back on line!"
Which mod were you on the /r/startrek sub?
Are the rules from there basically carried over here? Or will we start seeing racist/homophobic/other shitty behavior-style trek posts being allowed?
Just want to know if signing up is worth it or if I should move on.
Thank you.
Hey, if it stars an extra from Enterprise, it's canon.
That makes Babylon 5 canon as well.
Speaking of.. Did you see the trailer for the new Babylon 5 movie?
@raspberry_confetti @Powderhorn
"Great maker!"
What do you think so far? Season 1 has some pretty good episodes—something you can’t always say about Star Trek proper.
I thought it was just going to be a parody of star trek the whole time like space balls was for star wars, but it had some interesting concepts and a lot of character development. Not what I expected at all, but I love it.
I miss The Orville! It filled a huge void for me.
Naming it into a more generic sci-fi name, like scifi.website, might have made more sense, since it would open things up for other franchises, like star wars/stargate/doctor who to also be hosted.
It would be a bit like rec.arts.sf.* from back in the day.
With Star Trek being such a massive franchise with a bunch of subcommunities, I think it makes some sense for it to be its own thing. There's no need to merge communities, having dedicated spaces is nice.
hey all! I see that /r/strangenewworlds is also going to remain in restricted mode indefinitely, would you perhaps reach out to the mods there, and see if they'd like to join the Federation? :-D
If memory serves, they were shutting down for everything except discussion threads. IDK if that plan changed or not.
yep, i think that was their plan.. might as well extend the olive branch, though, and see if they'd like to join the Federation
What about first.federation?
We've had one Federation, yes. What about second.federation?
Incredible work, I'm so proud of this community! Makes sense that Star Trek fans would see the value of the federationverse
Qapla'
We expect to expand our communities as we gain more users, so there likely will be an equivalent space on here eventually. In the mean time, though, I encourage you to meme it up on /c/risa!
is that gonewild for star trek?
It was literally only good to keep your brain hooked and building that karma. Clever assholes. Glad to get rid of that site.
You gain no karma on Lemmy either
Pilgrim: How much karma do you have?
Guru: Mu.
I suspect the Tibetan Buddhist understanding of karma as something you impose upon yourself is oddly appropriate here.
I figure that a move from lemmy to kbin would be pretty seamless.
They are. There's some formatting issues, but they are fairly compatible with each other, other than some minor problems with things like text formatting, but that's probably an issue of the interface, rather than Kbin.
Where my friends of DeSoto at?
r/greatestgen is still up and there's a thread from 4 days ago from the FoD Mastodon admin about setting up an FoD Lemmy. I pointed that OP here but it wouldn't be official Uxbridge-Shimoda social media unless its the Card Daddy as admin.
Next on this old starship, we building a forum.
Also, where did the name friends of DeSoto come from? I've listened for years and feel like a missed a random reference.
It's from the early days of Greatest Gen, and references Captain DeSoto of the USS Hood (NCC-1703). DeSoto and the Hood made several appearances in TNG, and Ben and Adam leaned into his chill vibes, theorizing that the Hood would be a great place to work.
It's also an allusion to the phrase Friend of Dorothy, an older euphemism for LGBT people.
I think it was originally jokingly conceived as a sort of passphrase or shibboleth for fans of the pod to identify each other without revealing their embarrassing enthusiasm to outsiders, e.g.
Q: "Are you a friend of DeSoto?"
A: "Best boss I ever had!"
It's from a neat Trek podcast called Greatest Generation, highly recommend checking it out!
I think it came about during the DS9 Era, don't exactly recall though.
Are there any browsable backups/archives of Daystrom? There's a vast amount of content there which I'd hate to see lost.
Absolutely made up about this. Star Trek and the related subs were the only ones I used by the end of me being on Reddit.
You heard 'im.
TNG - https://startrek.website/post/768 think I saw the DS9 one listed too.
@NotJeffreyCombs oh thank god. I always recommend the DS9 one to people who either missed it or tried and failed.
https://startrek.website/... for those looking for the links.
my subscribe was pending. I just learned that was a bug. HOORAY I'M IN!
Welcome aboard, and pardon the space dust!
@andresil that appears to be exactly correct.. I didn't realise this was the case, and my mastodon client is quite subtle in displaying that I was replying to a Lemmy post. TL;DR I am a muppet.
@Stoat @startrek Sweet! And I can subscribe on my kbin account here: https://kbin.social/m/startrek@startrek.website
That's a Mastodon instance. startrek.website is a Lemmy instance.
The page works fine, I just meant "nothing" in the sense of there being no posts, and nothing seeming to show up if you try and search for it in the Lemmy search (but that could just be a problem of using it wrong).
If only for star trek purposes, I'm all in for this. More than enough.
this is amazing, this is how to end reddit!
Instance free link startrek
How do you make one of those? or is it just startrek@startrek.website?
[text] (/c/community@instance.whatever) but without the space between the bracket and parentheses
/r/risa wasn’t invited?
They're here.
Shows are released on Prime at midnight GMT right?
Man I just love the content that is growing every day in these new forums ... nice work guys ... subscribed and will come back again and again.
I feel like we've rebelled against old alliances and we are restarting again in some far off outpost with minimal supplies but plenty of hope and enthusiasm.
I've cut my ties and I'm staying on this outpost with you all.
I had my subscription show pending, as well, but it was working just fine. I was able to get it showing properly by unsubscribing (just clicking on the button showing it pending) and then re-subscribed and it showed me joined properly.
Why is it being closed for good now?
@JuicyShaqMeat Some of the mods feel that the backtracking Reddit has done on the API changes isn't good enough.
And at least one group of mods actually threw a fit over people not realizing they were doing a boycott, and people were messaging them for access to the private sub.
What news to warm my heart! Very principled to lock the subs over in crazy town even though it's difficult. I won't be going back, and the fed(erat)i(on)verse is the perfect place for Star Trek anyway!
Any plans to have a section to represent /r/StarTrekGIFs?
Only thing I really post are sci-fi gifs anyways, so looking to move over here to do it
to those concerned about possible censorship or poor moderation of your fav communities (e.g. replies in this thread)... please remember the most important part of this social experiment.
Federation.
start your own instance and community, then you can manage things exactly as you see fit - literally godlike powers. play by the concensus rules of the instances you wish to federate with and your content will spread far and wide across the fediverse. your future will be glorious
i was barred from r/startrek for commenting on how the completely unprofessional attitudes of characters toward the chain of command was irritating to me. i compared it to the "finally" scene from tng, and how discovery has worse occurrences happen repeatedly every episode that just get completely ignored
THANK YOU. Can't stress this enough for the persecution fetish crowd: You are not being silenced because you don't like new Star Trek. You are being silenced because you're acting like a twat.
Keep in mind that posts removed by moderators are visible and documented on this and every federated instance of Lemmy. Please urge your fellow mods to be more professional going forward and improve their de-escalation skills. There is certainly unfair criticism, but some of that criticism has been well earned.
I'm sure that moderation is a difficult and mostly thankless (and probably pay-less) job, but there's still a point at which being toxic undoes the positive contributions of a moderator. Please try to use this as an opportunity to build a better community and consider some self improvement as well.
There is no one among us that couldn't benefit from personal reflection.
If you treat people with hostility they will likely react in kind.
These sentiments are engrained in Trek (new and old), it would be wonderful if we could consider those lessons in our daily lives.
Oh for sure, I'm not saying all mods are saints. Certainly some of them go too far in wanting everyone to fawn over everything and anything less is anathema. But by and large, what I saw repeatedly when I looked at the comment histories of those who complained loudest about being "censored" was an almost pathological tendency to want to poop on things, regardless of the context.
For example, they'd pop up in discussions of Picard season 3 just to say how much they hated how much Burnham cried in season 1 of Discovery. Or when a TNG discussion was happening, they'd jump in to say how bad they thought Picard season 2 was. And a mod would tell them to keep things topical, and they'd keep doing it, and they'd get banned. Inevitably they would then create alts to complain about "power-tripping mods sucking Paramount's teat". That in turn created a perception among those already dissatisfied with new Trek that voicing your criticism was a bannable offense. I never saw evidence that that was actually happening at anywhere near the scale the complainers claimed.
Now obviously that's a generalization, but that was my perception of the "censorship" in r/startrek. There was plenty of criticism of episodes and seasons happening in comment sections, but it was the mods' directive to keep it on topic and not just general griping.
Hard disagree on that. I was called a bigot for criticizing the plots and writing on Disco more than once, usually with a few grafs of explanation and canon reasons.
If any of the mods of those subreddits are here, can you reconsider permanently locking?
The communities on those subs took years to develop, and you're going to lose a lot of quality posts and discussion, since most people won't just move seamlessly to a new website. Beyond that, there are years of high quality posts that members of that community have made, which may not be utterly lost, but they will certainly be more inaccessible.
I'm pissed at the Reddit admins too, but I don't enjoy being forced onto some new site.
I'm writing with the context of the Twitter takeover by Elon Musk. I tried migrating to Mastodon (which seems analogous to Reddit/Lemmy). While I enjoyed not being on a site dominated by a person who, in addition to similar API price hikes, is racist and transphobic, many of the communities I value on Twitter never migrated. The result was that Mastodon was never an adequate replacement for the Twitter networks I was in. While I appreciate not giving money to a person I hate, I'm not eager to repeat that experience, especially because it seems like Reddit's breaches are more of a pure business decision, which I find somewhat palatable, even if I'm unhappy to be forced off the apps I previously used.
I definitely am not opposed to the existence of this website, and in time I imagine it may develop its own unique community that some people value more than Reddit. However, I enjoy having the option of both sites available.
Migrating the community to the fediverse safeguards it from ever needing to migrate again, due to the decentralized structure where nobody controls the content. As long as it's on a corporately owned service, profit incentives will harm content or even force a migration eventually. I think it's a bit selfish to push that inconvenience onto the future users when we have an excellent opportunity to do it now, for all Reddit communities, and be done with it forever.
Part of the cost of having integrity in this case is needing to be patient. Reddit and Twitter didn't build the communities you are lamenting overnight. It's been two days for Reddit and less than a year for Twitter.
As for the content, nothing is stopping individuals from removing or exporting their comments. There are automated tools that will do this for you with very little effort. Reddit doesn't own the content and neither do the mods.
FYI: Mastodon is also part of the Fediverse, so you may see content from there show up on Lemmy/Kbin, and vice versa.
As for the content, nothing is stopping individuals from removing or exporting their comments. There are automated tools that will do this for you with very little effort.
I've been thinking about this. Shouldn't we be copying rising posts from Reddit to their respective communities on Lemmy? It would help bridge the content gap while the userbase is still growing, and it's all public information.
It is a mixed bag. This can be useful in some cases, but it can also be very inorganic. There are tons of accounts on Mastodon which mirror content from Twitter. They might even be run by the Twitter user themselves, but if there is no interaction and the user doesn't even check them, they just end up becoming noise.
Especially since a new social media network also means that they would have to learn how to use it all over again. People are used to Reddit, whereas Lemmy doesn't have the creature comforts, like keyboard shortcuts, and RES that someone might be used to.
That can be a pretty big obstacle.
Post hog
Great of the mods to unilaterally decide for tens of thousands of users to lock and make inaccessible years and years of conversation. I'm sorry your fefes are hurt, but this "we had to destroy the village to save it" is some third-grade tantrum throwing bullshit.
You've just discovered the main problem with centralized platforms like Reddit, Discord, Twitter. The only thing stopping the mods from making a complete archive of the old platform is the Big Tech owners of Reddit. These corporate interests own all your posts, memes, and DMs, forever.
With federated platforms, the community leadership can easily backup, archive, or transfer everything whenever they like. That's the power of ownership.
And that's fine. The mods, or whomever, have every right to go off and form another community, and the participants have every right to follow. The mods DON'T have the right to make the decision for me, restrict the content that I posted to a site they do not own, or otherwise interfere with my right to enjoy the archival content that they did not create. Hopefully the Reddit ownership will force the afflicted communities open sooner rather than later and let us each decide individually, rather than be subject to the whims of some babies that think an entity doesn't have the right to manage it's own tech.
The mods DON’T have the right to make the decision for me, restrict the content that I posted to a site they do not own, or otherwise interfere with my right to enjoy the archival content that they did not create.
Source?
Just like, my opinion, man. But to be fair I should rephrase - in the context of moderation they clearly have the right to keep content to community standards, and that may involve those actions, but beyond that, they have no right to act as the "owners" of that content, which is self-evident, as one of the complaints is that Reddit owns the content.
No offense but they do have the right, just because you don't like it doesn't mean they don't have the right. Just like reddit admins have the right to open all the closed subs if they want.
claims that others' "fefes are hurt" and says this is "some third-grade tantrum throwing bullshit"
turns out their own "fefes are hurt" and they proceed to engage in "some third-grade tantrum throwing bullshit"
There is also a currently active archive.org project trying to capture all of Reddit, and I would be extremely surprised if they weren't also capturing both /r/DaystromInstitute and /r/StarTrek, at the bare minimum.
I would rather see a permanent freeze instead of private. Yes it helps Reddit slightly more than private subs, but there is years of discussion that could be kept while still making it obsolete and limiting reddit's income/users from it.
Sorry - the downvotes have made me realize that "we had to destroy the village to save it" isn't third-grade bullshit, it's kindergarten bullshit. But please, play on, those, like, 5 of you who decided that it was your call to dump years of posts into oblivion because the platform that supported your conversation for years decided they'd had enough of freeloading.
How do you not understand that reddit is a symbiotic relationship between users / moderators - who generate and moderate ALL of the content for the site - and the reddit workers and admins who host it? Without one the other can't exist. Reddit is 100% freeloading off of users' content just as much as users & moderators are "freeloading" off of the ability to access the content through the API.
Reddit ownership (and you) have apparently chosen to either forget that, or ignore it.
Lmao, you suck dude.
@startrek.website
r/startrek: The Next Generation
Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...
Maybe a little slash fic.
Rules
All posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.
It is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.
All posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.
If a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.
Utilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episode. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.
All submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books, etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/Quarks.
Questions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.
Upcoming Episodes
| Date | Episode | Title |
|---|---|---|
| 09-03 | SNW 4x07 | “Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass” |
| 09-10 | SNW 4x08 | “Orders of Magnitude” |
| 09-17 | SNW 4x09 | "Once La’An a Time" |
| 09-24 | SNW 4x10 | "Tomorrow's Enterprise" |
| 03-?? | SFA 2x01 | TBA |
Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.
go to feed...
@startrek.website
r/startrek: The Next Generation
Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...
Maybe a little slash fic.
Rules
All posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.
It is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.
All posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.
If a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.
Utilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episode. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.
All submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books, etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/Quarks.
Questions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.
Upcoming Episodes
| Date | Episode | Title |
|---|---|---|
| 09-03 | SNW 4x07 | “Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass” |
| 09-10 | SNW 4x08 | “Orders of Magnitude” |
| 09-17 | SNW 4x09 | "Once La’An a Time" |
| 09-24 | SNW 4x10 | "Tomorrow's Enterprise" |
| 03-?? | SFA 2x01 | TBA |
Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.
go to feed...
What's more Star Trek than joining the federation?
save