You picked two of the crappiest apps ever.

Teams in browser is okay

compile in tmpfs

Yup I max out 32GB building librewolf from source

Caching do indeed be like.

horrible take IMO. firefox is using 12GB for me right now, but you have no idea how many or what kind of tabs either of us have, which makes all the difference to the point your comment has no value whatsoever.

In my experience of switching from Chrome to Firefox in the last year thanks to Lemmy, I have to say that using FF for work comes with all sorts of performance issues.

Then again, my specific use case includes having ~10 windows open at ~20 tabs each, sometimes even more. Definitely pushing the limits of the browser lol

It doesn't matter honestly, everyone knows humans can't see screens at all

Human eye can't see more than 8-bit colors anyway, so what's the point

According to this study, the eye can see a difference as high as 500 fps. While this is a specific scenario, it’s a scenario that could possibly happen in a video game, so I guess it means we can go to around 500 hz monitors before it becomes too much or unnessessary.

Does that refresh take place across the entire eye simultaneously or is each rod and/or cone doing its own thing?

It's not about training, eye tracking is just that much more sensitive to pixels jumping

You can immediately see choppy movement when you look around in a 1st person view game. Or if it's an RTS you can see the trail behind your mouse anyway

I can see this choppiness at 280 FPS. The only way to get rid of it is to turn on strobing, but that comes with double images at certain parts of the screen

Just give me a 480 FPS OLED with black frame insertion already, FFS

Sorry I forgot to put my giant /s.

With PAE, a 32 bit CPU can also use more, but each process is still limited to 4GiB

This is only true if you’re still using a 32 bit cpu

Bank switching to "fake" the ability to access more address space was a big thing in the 80s...so it's technically possible to access addresses that are wider than the address bus by dividing it up into portions that it can see.

I don't think that somebody actually read that computers can't register more then 4GiB of RAM and then thought

That's totally true, because u/teft said it is

That's what makes it a joke. Does anyone here unironcally think the human eye can only see 60 fps or that more than 4 gigs of ram is just marketing?

Yeah, I'm with you there, but I'm also a believer in having a little more ram than you need. After a couple of decades of feeling that occasional bottleneck it seems like a relatively cheap prevention measure.

firefox for me is using 12GB right now

For me it's a pattern of "Ctrl+t" to open a new tab and then I search "my interesting query". After that, I use "shift+tab" or "Ctrl+shift+tab" to navigate between tabs. Rinse and repeat until I get tired.

I don't like searching in my current tab because I don't want to lose the info I have.

You made me realize I use tabs as bookmarks... Darn. 20gb bookmark file here we go.

Oh, here's the 4 pages of documentation of items and crafting recipes of this nodded game I'm playing that are open at all times.

Then there's the tsb with the video series I'm watching, the tab with the dropout home, other two tabs for two series I'd like to watch, about 3 different tabs that I just closed down that were opened yesterday to search some ffxiv market item prices for a friend, WhatsApp web, some Path of exile trade live tabs in case an item I've been searching for a month shows up on trade in a reasonable price to pick up the game again, the medianxl ladder to check for gear on too players, 2-3 tabs for players on the ladder to check their gears as a rough template,...

I'd say at any given time it's a minimum of 10, and I'm not being held responsible of my work browser tabs. That's more like, 4 github repos because they ask me about stuff and I forget to close them, hue, the spark docs on like 5 tabs, 3 google searches, several excels with project tracking stuff, and maybe an extra 10 to 20 tabs open depending of what I'm searching or have been asked about in the last 2 days.

"Simple Tab Groups" extension for Firefox desktop allowed me to evolve from constantly rearranging/bookmarking ~20 shrinking tabs in a window and dropping projects; to hoarding 30-40 tabs worth of research material and unfinished project ideas in rotating groups

For myself, it's ADHD and keeping things open that I intend to get back to but rarely do.

Dell 7740 Workstation laptop. Has a Xeon processor and a 16GB Quadro video card as well. 5 M2 slots so I currently have 36TB of SSD as well. 4k screen, physical privacy shutter camera, actual buttons for the trackpad. I love this thing.

a w520 from 2012 can run 32gb of ram natively. It has 4 socketed ram slots.

More than likely some form of cursed engineering laptop lol, that or a shitpost.

which ones? ATM? Gregtech?

Definitely not, I do the same.

I installed 64 GB of RAM in my Windows laptop 4 years ago and had been using 64 GB of RAM in the laptop that it replaced - which was from 2013 (I think I bought it in 2014-2105). I was using 32 GB of RAM prior (on Linux and Windows laptops), all the way back to 2007 or so.

My work MacBook Pros generally have 32-64 GB of RAM, but my personal MacBook Air (the 15” M2) has 16 GB, simply because the upgrade wasn’t a cost effective one (and the M1 before it had performed great with 16) and because I’d only planned on using it for casual development. But since I’ve been using it as my main personal development machine and for self-hosted AI, and have run into its limits, when I replace it I’ll likely opt for 64 GB or more.

My Windows gaming desktop only has 32 GB of RAM, though - that’s because getting the timings higher with more RAM - particularly 4 sticks - was prohibitively expensive when I built it, and then when the cost wasn’t a concern and I tried to upgrade, I learned that my third and fourth RAM slots weren’t functional. I could upgrade to 64 GB in two slots but it wouldn’t really be worth it, since I only use it for gaming.

My Linux desktop / server has 128 GB of ECC RAM, though, because that’s as much as the motherboard supported.

I have no problems currently on my personal computer with 16GB. If RAM is ever an issue, you can always upgrade (especially if you leave slots empty). Plus RAM generally has a tendency to get cheaper over time, so why waste money now?

All windows and Linux versions I've run since 2008 supported 64 bit. The games I was running might not have, but I can't really be held responsible for what they want to write. Also, multitasking has always been a thing, and chrome came out in 2008 as well, so the single task 4GB limitations hasn't really been an issue for a while as far as gaming/regular desktop usage goes(unless, again, the applications you're running aren't written to support 64bit/more than 4GB, which you can't really be held responsible for.)

well, i use firefox for my browsing but yes i get your point

Its more likely caching. They just keep the cache of files opened earlier so that its ready for you if you need it immediately again. Also unused ram is wasted ram

There's no benefit in having RAM sitting idle and empty. Si Linux caches a lot of things.

Appreciate this. I have a Chromebook running Garuda with only 4gb of RAM, and if I get too much going the system locks up. This might help it handle things better.

thanks, i'll take a look.

I was getting to the point of writing something for it

The reason vscode is so popular is because it is far more efficient than the electron app it's based on. Atom was slow and the worst resource hog I've ever seen.

The plugin ecosystem and great built-in support for the most popular languages keep it popular.

I use neovim (btw) and have it kitted out like a full IDE and it uses about 1gb of RAM at most to run a project. Crazy how much RAM static analysis takes.

Do not underestimate the ram needed just by the lsp. I switch from vscode to nvim, and for some project 8gb is not enough due to that : that part of the memory consumption is sadly not editor-dependant :/

Hate to type this but mate, skill issue. If its taking that much memory check your addons because you fucked up somewhere. I use it with several debugging and linting addons and it runs on a virtual remote desktop where I'm lucky if I have 4GB to share between vscode and the browser with 20 tabs open.

Maybe your issue is thst you ran heavy programs through the vscode console and those registered in the task manager as vscode? Idk, but either way, skill issue :P

(basically a terribly inefficient IDE

Hard disagree

Does it unpack the archive in-memory? In the newest stable version?

Boot the laptop from a USB memory stick that has a Linux installer on it.

I have the same setup - Fedora daily driver and Windows 11 Pro. I recently switched from Windows daily driver and it's crazy how much better my laptop runs with Fedora. Processor temp and RAM usage are both less than half of what they were on Windows.

You have a lot of ram, linux will try to use most of it, it's a normal thing. There's a huge difference from using a large amount of ram when available to NEEDING that amount to run.Try installing both OSes on a machine with 4gb, and see the difference between them. One will be usable, while the other will have a poor performance. You can even push it harder with a 1gb machine. Linux will provide a system with basic functionality, while windows will be unusable.

I have considered it a few times ngl

Thanks! But where is the SysRq key?

In my case, along with using my laptop as a regular PC, I also use this as my work computer. I contract for multiple companies and each window has tabs for each web software for every company, organized by consolidated tabs. So Google analytics, Crazyegg, tableau, and docs, calendar, etc. I also do web testing and each tab has tests.

I find that Edge does a better job at memory management so it's now my primary and I test on Chrome.

One user had 7500 tabs open at once.

I'm rocking a 128 GB Unraid system and it's pure joy.

Its also only like 25% utilized I think...

For automations and small apps it's fast enough. It's a fair traidoff for the fast turnaround time.

I'm thinking of learning go or c though because i don't care much for the runtime errors. It's no fun using an application for a while just for a typo in a rarely used function to tank the entire app.

We apps are the future for proprietary crap

Thanks for giving a genuine smile :)

Well it’s only slightly more than one-third of almost 9000!

Your experience matches mine more than op's. In fact I have a super shitty old laptop running gnome on fedora with a 32gb drive and I think 4 GB of RAM, maybe less, and it still sounds better than the experience they're claiming to have had with 6 gb ram.

it was really smooth on my pc too until i ran out of ram and then it would just freeze

That's right. Prize wise