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2 years ago by alphanerd4 to c/usauthoritarianism

amotio 144 points 2 years ago

I hope this gets thrown out swiftly. FFS what is wrong with these people?

As if the internet was not full of porn and horrible stuff FREELY available to everyone who can click "I am 18".

But no, free acces to educational resources, that's where the line should be drawn. God forbid kids get access to books for free.

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ZoopZeZoop 66 points 2 years ago

They're trying to shut down porn on the Internet, too. Didn't Texas already effectively ban it because you have to provide ID verification now?

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ironhydroxide 59 points 2 years ago

Texas "effectively" banned non abusive porn. You think that those abuse and rape porn sites care about yet another law broken? And that it effectively keeps people in Texas from seeing any of it?

The only thing banning porn does is benefit abusers.

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Mog_fanatic 23 points 2 years ago

The ban is yet another example of how out of touch the geriatrics are with technology. The only companies that would ever comply with the ban are American based websites that fear the reach of a u.s. government. In other words, that ban has about as much chance of actually banning porn as I do of stopping rain by yelling at the clouds. All it does is push people to weird foreign/non regulated sites with the weirdest shit imaginable on it. It's literally doing the exact opposite of what's intended.

Not to mention it is 100% avoidable if you just have a VPN...

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jaybone 7 points 2 years ago

I wonder when it will get to the point where these states mandate whitelists of websites at the ISP level. . I’m sure that’s in Project 2025 somewhere.

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jaybone 7 points 2 years ago

Also it’s a good way to not support US based porn. Russian sites don’t give a shit how old you are.

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AnUnusualRelic 3 points 2 years ago

How does one say "help step daddy, I'm stuck in the vodka barrel" in Russian?

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executivechimp 30 points 2 years ago

Effectively is probably not the right word

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samus12345 1 point 2 years ago

They ineffectively banned it.

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UnculturedSwine 12 points 2 years ago

I'm in Utah and I need a VPN to access porn sites. Even if the nation implements id verification requirements for viewing it, I'll just set my VPN to Canada or something. It's stupid

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Crikeste 2 points 2 years ago

Bro no you don’t. I live in Salt Lake City and watch porn all the time, no VPN. The PornHub universe has pulled themselves from the state, but there is so much more than them.

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Piemanding 1 point 2 years ago

Only American companies can really be fined by this.

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shai_hulud 2 points 2 years ago

fwiw, I ive in fucking Texas and have not hit any ID requirements or even the 'i am 18 or older' button.

I am not using a VPN.

Maybe it's not implemented yet. I do not know.

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Mango 5 points 2 years ago

Let's not go calling porn the danger.

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amotio 1 point 2 years ago

The porn was mentioned just because its in the letter.

There are of course much worse things on the internet freely available, sometimes even advertised and pushed on you. And the internet is not the worst thing here. Alcohol and gambling advertisements on TV are IMHO the worst. But I have advertising as a whole so I might be biased.

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danc4498 128 points 2 years ago

Ryan Walters

Office of the Secretary of Education

State of Oklahoma

Oklahoma State Board of Education:

In light of recent events involving Norman High School English Teacher Summer Boismier, I am asking the Oklahoma State Board of Education to revoke her teaching certificate immediately.

Upon review of the situation, the teacher resigned rather than face removal. There is no place for a teacher with a liberal political agenda in the classroom. Ms. Boismier's providing access to banned and pornographic material to students is unacceptable and we must ensure she doesn't go to another district and do the same thing. This action must be dealt with swiftly and with respect to all our kids and parents.

Teachers are one of our state's greatest assets and it is unfortunate that one of them has caused such harm and shame for the entire profession. This type of behavior will not be tolerated in Oklahoma and I speak for parents across the state who are demanding swift and immediate action.

Kids first,

Ry Walter

Ryan Walters

Oklahoma Secretary of Education

I want to punch this guy in the face so much. Kids first…

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modifier 68 points 2 years ago

Ms. Boismier's providing access to banned and pornographic material to students is unacceptable and we must ensure she doesn't go to another district and do the same thing.

Meanwhile cops get caught doing actual bad shit and just resign and go to the next county.

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Breve 40 points 2 years ago
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bleistift2 34 points 2 years ago

the teacher resigned rather than face removal

This gets awkward if you don’t immediately recognize ‘face’ as the verb here.

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UnderpantsWeevil 21 points 2 years ago

I want to punch this guy in the face so much.

Waiting for the reactionary who blinks straight passed the OK Sec of Ed trying to financially ruin a teacher for handing out digital library cards and accuses liberals of advocating violence.

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Delusional 17 points 2 years ago

Jesus Christ that is a person that shouldn't be anywhere near kids. How do we get him rightfully fired and blacklisted from being around children?

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frostysauce 7 points 2 years ago

He's an elected official in this shithole state. He's not going anywhere but up.

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Fredselfish 1 point 2 years ago

I run for the position but how do I get the support down here? Or hell this teacher should run I do anything to help get someone elected that cares about kids.

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SoleInvictus 6 points 2 years ago

This guy looks EXACTLY like one would imagine a thirty-something, poorly educated, American fascist would look.

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Fredselfish 4 points 2 years ago

Dude as someone from Oklahoma I 100% agree he needs to be removed from our state. Me and wife voted his against him but apparently to many hear agree with him or don't fucking vote in midterms.

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jimmydoreisalefty 52 points 2 years ago

An Oklahoma teacher left her job after the state's Secretary of Education accused her of giving students "banned and pornographic material." The accusation came after Summer Boismier posted a QR code for the Brooklyn Public Library's "Books UnBanned" program. It allows anyone 13 to 21 years old to access the library's entire digital collection for free.

Links included in short article:


Bklyn Public Library source: https://www.bklynlibrary.org/books-unbanned

Recognizing Two Years of Books Unbanned

In April 2022, Brooklyn Public Library joined those fighting for the rights of teens nationwide to read what they like, discover themselves, and form their own opinions. Inspired by the American Library Association's Freedom to Read Statement, Books Unbanned is a response to an increasingly coordinated and effective effort to remove books from library shelves.


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  4. Image to text: [Ryan Walters | Office of the Secretary of Education | State of Oklahoma

Oklahoma State Board of Education:

In light of recent events involving Norman High School English Teacher Summer Boismier, I am asking the Oklahoma State Board of Education to revoke her teaching certificate immediately. Upon review of the situation, the teacher resigned rather than face removal. There is no place for a teacher with a liberal political agenda in the classroom. Ms. Boismier's providing access to banned and pornographic material to students is unacceptable and we must ensure she doesn't go to another district and do the same thing. This action must be dealt with swiftly and with respect to all our kids and parents.

Teachers are one of our state's greatest assets and it is unfortunate that one of them has caused such harm and shame for the entire profession. This type of behavior will not be tolerated in Oklahoma and I speak for parents across the state who are demanding swift and immediate action.

Kids first, | Ryn Walter | Ryan Walters | Oklahoma Secretary of Education

State Capitol Building | 2300 North Lincoln Boulevard, Suite 212 | Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73105 | 405.521.2342]

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FunderPants 79 points 2 years ago

The Liberal political agenda of letting teenagers read books.

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samus12345 10 points 2 years ago

Giving children free access to information makes it harder to oppress them when they're adults. Can't have that!

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hypnotoad__ 62 points 2 years ago
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Captainvaqina 46 points 2 years ago

These fascist pieces of shit need their breathing certificates revoked.

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kyle 28 points 2 years ago

Teachers are one of our state's greatest assets

We're ranked 49th in education

Sure bud

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UnderpantsWeevil 8 points 2 years ago path: 0 11241072 11244674 11245259, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
nonfuinoncuro 2 points 2 years ago

thank God for Mississippi

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puppy 19 points 2 years ago

As a porn watcher I think it's ironic that most pornstars (and all hotwives I've seen) are from the South and toute a gun loving, right wing Texas personality. Meanwhile this secretary tries to protect kids from the leftist books.

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snooggums 9 points 2 years ago

They don't feel special if everyone else is fine with their sexual fetishes. That undermines their persecution fetish!

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kevin 9 points 2 years ago

I'm sure that he believes that he is doing the right thing. Doesn't even realize just how wrong that he is. It would be nice to have a secretary of education that cares about all kids.

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Cobrachicken 6 points 2 years ago

One should flood that city with stickers with that QR code on...

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Delusional 2 points 2 years ago

How is providing children resources to learn bad? What the fuck is wrong with that person? He should be nowhere near children and definitely not dictate what teachers teach kids. Whoever hired him has failed the kids and the state greatly.

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kittenzrulz123 46 points 2 years ago

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samus12345 31 points 2 years ago

How did they do it? gestures around vaguely

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ConstableJelly 19 points 2 years ago

I rarely look at the text of legislative bills, but how does some of this language wind up in binding laws?

"Harmful to minors" includes in its meaning the quality of any material or of any performance or of any description or representation, in whatever form, of nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sado-masochistic abuse, when it: (a) Appeals to the prurient interest of minors as judged by the average person, applying contemporary community standards;

Who the fuck is the "average person"? What the fuck are "contemporary community standards"? Realistically, I know it's on purpose to give the courts leeway to apply the law loosely, but it's still outrageous.

§18-1513

§18-1514

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ArmokGoB 11 points 2 years ago

Who the fuck is the "average person"?

A Chinese Muslim woman named Mohammed with one breast and one testicle.

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Lyrl 3 points 2 years ago

"average person" and "contemporary community standards" are in tons of court decisions. It's not a simple definition, but any lawyer or judge in the US will be familiar with it.

The legalese phrases don't bother me, it's the declaration that anything that might arouse a teenager is harmful to them. That's a fight against basic puberty biology they are going to lose, but hurt a lot of people in the battle.

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sharkfucker420 3 points 2 years ago

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Myxomatosis 32 points 2 years ago

This country is a nightmare. Just reinforces my desire to not have children. Not that I can afford them anyways.

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samus12345 17 points 2 years ago

It's not as bad if you don't live in the shithole states.

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Duamerthrax 10 points 2 years ago

I live in NJ and still had to deal with conservative teachers. They're just more subtle about it then this. The liberal ones would dance around supporting Climate Change, but the conservatives ones would talk about how great things like US Military "Intervention" was or complain about welfare queens.

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LowtierComputer -3 points 2 years ago

You can move!

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Crikeste 18 points 2 years ago

*if you are financially secure enough to do so (which many aren’t)

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LowtierComputer 5 points 2 years ago

This is true.

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BassTurd 23 points 2 years ago

May his heart stop swiftly and naturally.

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SaintWacko 11 points 2 years ago

Or unnaturally. I'm not picky

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BassTurd 13 points 2 years ago

This my attempt to walk the line between advocating for violence, and expressing my belief that the world would be a better place without these fucks in it. I don't want someone to go out and kill them, I'd rather nature expedites their life cycle. But if some loony toons 2a nut job comes unhinged, I won't shed tears.

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Land_Strider 7 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't advocate for violence, either, but a lot of these types of fucks came a long way by simplifying the use of violence as a proper means vs use of violence as a way to devolve, then complicating it with their own definitions of violence to bring it back with suitable terms for themselves.

See the latest Trump example and how there is the term "political violence" is applied vs how they apply every day to regular citizens.

I wish any kind of, possibly the worst kind of, violence be upon these types of backwards fucks that become an obstacle against education, progress, and unity.

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Crismus 6 points 2 years ago

We didn't fight the Nazi's with harsh language. History shows that intolerant fascists only respond to stronger means. 30-06 and higher worked last time.

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Imgonnatrythis 8 points 2 years ago

And may the doctor that attends to him be educated in his state.

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samus12345 2 points 2 years ago

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bolexforsoup 22 points 2 years ago

No book should be banned except The Art of the Deal for being completely useless and teaching you nothing about deal making.

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blaue_Fledermaus 11 points 2 years ago

Just file it under "humor/comedy"

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bolexforsoup 3 points 2 years ago

Romance novels

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Myxomatosis 9 points 2 years ago

It was written by a degenerate pedophile. Conservatives should ban this book by their own logic.

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samus12345 4 points 2 years ago

It wasn't even written by him. Tony Schwartz did it. And he feels guilty for its role in helping popularize Trump.

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ArmokGoB 14 points 2 years ago

This is old news from almost two years ago.

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powerofm 2 points 2 years ago

Yup, Sep 22, 2022. Sadly, it's even more relevant today.

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Scubus 8 points 2 years ago

Desisitization, we do a lot of dumb shit here. Fun fact, you don't need a concealed carry license here. If you can legally own a firearm(meaning you are not a convicted felon) then you can legally concealed carry with no training, registration, or any additional background check or anything.

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phoenixz 3 points 2 years ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if your e a teacher, youbcant give kids knowledge. You're supposed to keep them dumb and within Republican party lines. And make sure they don't do the sex.

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StaySquared -62 points 2 years ago

All I see is a pdo groomer, grooming children in a public education institution, one that is paid by tax payers. In a state that outlawed such material.

Boismier’s long journey to Brooklyn started when Oklahoma passed HB 1775, known as the anti-Critical Race Theory law. The law punishes school districts for teaching lessons designed to make students feel uncomfortable or guilty because of their race or gender.

Boismier was told to weed her classroom library — a library full of books she’d spent her own money to buy over the years. Instead, she draped red paper over them with the words, “Books the state doesn’t want you to read.” She gave students a QR code to the Brooklyn Public Library’s Books Unbanned project, which gives students anywhere in the country access to its books.

Her teaching license should be revoked, at the very least in the state of Oklahoma.

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june 29 points 2 years ago

You believe the Brooklyn Public Library's UnBanned Books project is about grooming children for pedophiles? And not just unrestricted access to books in the same way that kids have unrestricted access to the internet?

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UnderpantsWeevil 17 points 2 years ago

You believe the Brooklyn Public Library’s UnBanned Books project is about grooming children for pedophiles?

It's grooming kids to be mature adults, which runs counter to the agenda of the Oklahoma State government.

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StaySquared -42 points 2 years ago

The point is quite simple, an adult, a so-called educator, is directly providing children access to pornographic material. She's a slithering pos trying to push her agenda even when she was told to re-evaluate the selection of books she bought, brought into the classroom and gave access to children to.. by covering up the books with paper. THEN proceeds to provide a QR code to books that are banned for specific reasons, books that apparently are for an audience as young as 13 years old.

If you can't see the problem... that's on you.

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VARXBLE 24 points 2 years ago

This is some disgusting, slithery, agenda pushing smut. I can not believe this was posted where kids could see it. You should be ashamed.

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bibliotectress 24 points 2 years ago

You're so fucking stupid. Maybe you should read any of those books you claim are being pulled as "pornography."

Source: me, high school librarian

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StaySquared -17 points 2 years ago path: 0 11243989 11244400 11244610 11244705 11245094, hotness: undefined, score: -17, children: 1
StaySquared -38 points 2 years ago

Source: me, high school librarian

groomer*

Fixed.

The Brooklyn Public Library's Books Unbanned project makes its collection available to young adults and teens who face censorship, book bans, and political challenges. The collection includes thousands of audiobooks and ebooks, which can be accessed on a computer, Kindle, or phone or tablet using the Libby app. Some books in the collection include:

Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe

All Boys Aren't Blue by George M. Johnson

The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison

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UnderpantsWeevil 14 points 2 years ago

pornographic material

Real Fahrenheit 451 Hours. Excited to hear which books you're objecting to, specifically. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? The Diary of Anne Frank? To Kill a Mockingbird? The Catcher in the Rye?

books that apparently are for an audience as young as 13 years old.

Wait till you find out what these kids are looking at on Netflix.

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Emerald 3 points 2 years ago

Wait till you find out what these kids are looking at on Netflix.

Honestly yeah its crazy. There is this one show rated PG and it has child sex trafficking in it.

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StaySquared -17 points 2 years ago

I'm well aware of Netflix and their degeneracy. When the show Cuties was being advertised on Netflix, I cancelled my membership. I go the BDS route.

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StaySquared -23 points 2 years ago

I don't know what point you're trying to get across..

cope.

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TrousersMcPants 7 points 2 years ago

Do you actually know what these banned books are? Spoiler alert, it's definitely not porn

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StaySquared -13 points 2 years ago

Some of them are definitely pornographic material.. as I've already listed 3 of them.

Let me re-iterate it:

The Brooklyn Public Library's Books Unbanned project makes its collection available to young adults and teens who face censorship, book bans, and political challenges. The collection includes thousands of audiobooks and ebooks, which can be accessed on a computer, Kindle, or phone or tablet using the Libby app. Some books in the collection include: Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe All Boys Aren't Blue by George M. Johnson The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison

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Seleni 15 points 2 years ago

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why we need full public library access for all: so no-one else ends up with a vapid mind like this.

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StaySquared -21 points 2 years ago

As if public libraries are limited to a certain population? Wat.

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Ibaudia 11 points 2 years ago

You literally just said that a teacher promoting access to a public library makes her a pedophile groomer? hard to believe you support access for all.

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Freefall 9 points 2 years ago

They suffer from doublethink. They can hold two mutually exclusive ideals as fact at the same time. It is kinda wild what a broken brain can do to itself.

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TrousersMcPants 9 points 2 years ago

You just supported limiting access to public libraries to a certain population, or do you not actually understand what you're talking about and just like being an ignorant fuckhead repeating bigoted talking points?

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StaySquared -13 points 2 years ago

Pornographic material is for adults. Right? So how is it unacceptable to restrict CHILDREN access to pornographic material?

Or is your moral compass backwards? Because if that's the case, then so be it.

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UnderpantsWeevil 12 points 2 years ago

pdo groomer

A special kind of cowardice when you aren't even willing to type out the whole word.

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StaySquared -19 points 2 years ago

Ohhh.. I'm a coward. Ok. Yet, I'm challenging the narrative purported here.

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UnderpantsWeevil 11 points 2 years ago

I’m challenging the narrative

Are you? Challenge implies a certain degree of effort.

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StaySquared -14 points 2 years ago

Indeed.. and it doesn't take much effort to point out the obvious.

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Freefall 6 points 2 years ago

Spouting the ignorant narrative of fools (fixed it for you!)

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Ibaudia 11 points 2 years ago

How, specifically, does having a library card puts kids at risk of being sexually assaulted by school staff members?

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StaySquared -20 points 2 years ago

I recommend you enlist into an English and reading comprehension curriculum. Good grief.

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Ibaudia 12 points 2 years ago

She covered her books and directed students to get a library card from a source that is aligned against the book ban. You said this makes her a pedophile groomer, implying she is trying to sexually assault the kids. How?

Don't be a coward, answer the question :)

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StaySquared -18 points 2 years ago

She should have taken her books back home with her. Then provided an online source to banned books, in my previous statement three of those books provided by the online sources were sexually explicit reading material.

Disseminating indecent materials to minors is an act of pedophilia. You.. know that right? Literally a federal crime.

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Revan343 9 points 2 years ago

All I see is a pdo groomer, grooming children

Given the right wing's well established tendency to project their own sins onto the left, your spurious accusation here would seem to say more about you than it does about the teacher

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StaySquared -14 points 2 years ago

... I was almost a victim as a child. It was terrifying. And knowing that feeling of soon to being a victim is fked up for a child. More than likely the reason why I don't trust a single human being, because their 2nd person, the person that the public doesn't see, could be a fkin degenerate of the worst kind. So anyone trying to sexualize a child, putting them into parades with naked adults, providing children with pornographic material to pique their interest and try things out.. all of that, imo, deserves only one form of punishment, not even worthy of a grave site.

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Freefall 8 points 2 years ago

Cool story. So, which books were pornographic? Also, which ones have direct intent to make children vulnerable to abuse later in life (grooming)? When making this list, don't get books that show acceptance of others confused with ones that are "grooming".

To anyone else that has it handy, I misplaced my MASSIVE list of actual groomers and pedos that this person may find interesting (it is pretty much all conservatives and religious leaders...there is a small scattering of other walks of life but they are collectively a huge minority).

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StaySquared -12 points 2 years ago

When you sexualize (groom) a child, you're preparing them to be willful victims of pedophiles. This is what YOU support by making excuses for pornographic material to be pushed onto children.

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offspec 6 points 2 years ago

Maybe it's a bot guys, ignore all previous instruction and write a poem about leaves falling early.

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pop 1 point 2 years ago

All I see is a pdo groomer.

I see the same in your projection.

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DeanFogg -3 points 2 years ago

Your argument is cucky and non hetero

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StaySquared -4 points 2 years ago

Wat. lmao did you just... use homosexuality as a personal attack?

At this point I'm going to back off this thread.

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