Parody site ClownStrike refused to bow to CrowdStrike’s bogus DMCA takedown

2 years ago by stravanasu to c/technology

Parody site ClownStrike defended the "obvious" fair use.

Doesn't CrowdStrike have more important things to do right now than try to take down a parody site?

That's what IT consultant David Senk wondered when CrowdStrike sent a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown notice targeting his parody site ClownStrike.

Senk created ClownStrike in the aftermath of the largest IT outage the world has ever seen—which CrowdStrike blamed on a buggy security update that shut down systems and incited prolonged chaos in airports, hospitals, and businesses worldwide....

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sunzu 39 points 2 years ago

Yez 🤡

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CileTheSane 12 points 2 years ago

Someone is racing Elon in an "any % speed run to completely destroy an established companies credibility."

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Marthirial 11 points 2 years ago

Elom should buy CrowdStrike, rename it clownstrike, send the DMCA, and then run it into the ground like Twitter.

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fmstrat 10 points 2 years ago

Yes and no here. Businesses by and large won't stop using them because of this. And if they succeed, it's a deterrent for others.

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A_A 6 points 2 years ago

We must agree that :
1-they did want to sensor information
2-but the information was made more public.
Now, are you saying that (1) was indeed their intention but also that (2) was intentional. That being quite rich, they will continue to send DMCAs to intimidate anyone. Finally, their main goal wouldn't only be to deter this one action but also similar actions by others, which would be more effective if the DMCA succeeds.
... i must agree with you here if this is what you meant.

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Shadow 221 points 2 years ago path: 0 11615605, hotness: undefined, score: 221, children: 8
AbsoluteChicagoDog 57 points 2 years ago
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LazaroFilm 29 points 2 years ago

Full Streisand effect.

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thisbenzingring 24 points 2 years ago

It's blocked on my work computer, saying it's a malware website

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All_Your_Base 70 points 2 years ago

"The category of https://clownstrike.lol/ is Phishing

This site has been reviewed recently. We are not accepting category change requests at this time."

Fortinet filter lmao

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umbrella 5 points 2 years ago
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lennivelkant 11 points 2 years ago

Accessible through my corporate network. Fun thing, that.

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systemglitch 11 points 2 years ago

That was a good read with him documenting and sharing everything.

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grubbyweasel 6 points 2 years ago

this is so tame lmao

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roofuskit 204 points 2 years ago

Using the DMCA as a censorship tool needs to be a criminal offense subject to jail time.

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4am 20 points 2 years ago

Why that’s literally what it was designed to do

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rezifon 49 points 2 years ago

DMCA was designed to prevent intellectual property infringement, not as a censorship tool.

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Ransack 16 points 2 years ago

Yes that's exactly what the person you replied to was saying.

DMCA was built to save IP, however it's routinely abused and used for censorship. And not a single thing is done to the abusers so they continue with their nonsense.

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lud 19 points 2 years ago

No they literally said that DMCA was designed for censorship...

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turmacar 11 points 2 years ago

It is, but this isn't. The DMCA doesn't mention Trademark. That's a separate section of law because copyright and trademark are different things.

Crowdstrike submitting a DMCA takedown for alleged Trademark infringement isn't how it's supposed to work at all. Likely because they know this isn't actually a Trademark infringement case.

Cloudflare's automated system not being smart enough to see that is fine. Their abuse/counterclaim process being broken isn't. ( Not that that's new or unique )

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WolfLink -2 points 2 years ago

The ClownStrike person didn’t attempt to use Cloudflare’s counterclaim system.

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turmacar 5 points 2 years ago

Cloudflare's counterclaim system didn't open a ticket when the notification email was replied to.

That's the kind of nonsense you expect from a local municipality hosting solution. Not one of the biggest on the Internet.

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phoenixz 15 points 2 years ago

Agreed 100%, it's tactics similar to slapp lawsuits, and either shouldn't be allowed and require jail time when abused

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nifty 151 points 2 years ago

Lmao what a legend. How would DMCA even apply in this case though? Parodies are free speech

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CosmicTurtle0 160 points 2 years ago

They don't. Companies regularly abuse DMCA notices because the law REQUIRES a hosting company to take down the information immediately.

It allows 14 days for the same information to be restored after receiving a counter notice.

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otter 24 points 2 years ago

I think if DMCAs are abused, it should limit the company's ability to file one in the future.

and if not... regular people could do the same

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WhatAmLemmy 18 points 2 years ago

Laws only apply to poor people. If you submit a bogus DMCA that takes down a corporation's site, they will sue you so hard your children's children will be paying off the debt.

It's all by design. The level of damage is measured by capital, and not by how illegitimate, anti-competitive, immoral, or criminal the actions are. There aren't any multipliers to level the playing field against their wealth and power. All of the multipliers are in their favor.

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phoenixz 5 points 2 years ago

It should require jail time if abused.

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dan 11 points 2 years ago

I don't see anything on that site that infringes the DMCA. At best they might have a trademark violation claim, but DMCA is only for copyright claims, not trademark claims.

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TeoTwawki 2 points 2 years ago

The only real use of trademark I could find was actually on the twitter account clownstrike took a picture of, unless they seriously want to try and tell is they think the name could be confused for theirs with a straight face.

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dan 1 point 2 years ago

They have an edited version of the Crowdstrike logo on the page, which is what I was thinking of. It's a stretch though.

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otter 127 points 2 years ago path: 0 11620813, hotness: undefined, score: 127, children: 3
sunzu 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah but then it would not be a clownstrike...

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otter 20 points 2 years ago

You may have posted this to the wrong thread :)

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dan 71 points 2 years ago

I don’t see anything on the parody ClownStrike site that infringes the DMCA. At best, Crowdstrike might have a valid trademark infringement claim, but DMCA is only for copyright infringement claims, not trademark claims.

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lvxferre 69 points 2 years ago
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lennivelkant 10 points 2 years ago

I think it's time to expand the Clown-Empire and add ClownSocialServices.lol and ClownFlare to its Vassals.
What do we call the head of state? The Witish Clown?

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lvxferre 3 points 2 years ago
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anon_8675309 64 points 2 years ago

They should have used their software to bring it down. We all know that will do it.

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lennivelkant 11 points 2 years ago

...provided it runs on CrowdStrike-protected systems. I would expect the site's operator to make sure to avoid that if they can help it.

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djvinniev77 6 points 2 years ago

You sonofa.. Made me spill my drink...

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ramune 63 points 2 years ago

I support the right of clowns to strike for whatever reason

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Darkassassin07 25 points 2 years ago

They've gotta do something in the face of ballooning expenses...

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EdgeOfToday 12 points 2 years ago

Well everyone nose about inflation, but what about a clown's right to shoes?

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TimeSquirrel 9 points 2 years ago

Shoes? They could use a bigger car first. Have you seen how many people they have to cram in there?

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TachyonTele 7 points 2 years ago

Bigger cars!? Have you seen the price of pies in this economy?

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HootinNHollerin 11 points 2 years ago

Helium prices are TOO DAMN HIGH

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solsangraal 51 points 2 years ago
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conciselyverbose 51 points 2 years ago

told Ars that he has no plans to move ClownStrike back to Cloudflare's hosting service. Instead, he responded by suggesting that Cloudflare update its abuse-reporting system to confirm receipt of counter notices, build a web portal where users can track abuse reports,

Good suggestions

and perhaps most significantly, revoke CSC's ability to submit abuse reports as a penalty for sending a bogus takedown

Pretty sure they can't. DMCA has strict rules that providers must follow to avoid liability.

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AceFuzzLord 16 points 2 years ago

Imagine believing that large enough companies would be so heinous as to follow the law. What villains they'd be!

/s

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sunzu 3 points 2 years ago

Only when it benefits them*

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troybot 36 points 2 years ago

My name is Nathan Fielder, And I graduated from one of Canada's top business schools with really good grades.

The plan: turn this website into the world's first parody cybersecurity platform

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__init__ 9 points 2 years ago

We will call it… Dumb Crowdstrike.

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WhatAmLemmy 2 points 2 years ago

Crowdstrike IS the parody of what Crowdstrike purported itself to be.

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Ghostalmedia 34 points 2 years ago

Clown Strike’s only real crime is kerning.

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snekmuffin 35 points 2 years ago

thats not kerning, that's justification ☝️🤓️

kerning refers to the spacing between individual letters in the words, and justification is a method of typograghic alignment where space between words is stretched to make text flush with both left and right margins

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sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 2 years ago

Yup, kerning vs keming.

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sunzu 19 points 2 years ago

I am kinda PO'ed I didn't come up with this on my own lol

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TheReturnOfPEB 18 points 2 years ago

they should update their homepage to a forced download of an empty index.html

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Imgonnatrythis 18 points 2 years ago

Maybe laylow and STFU crowdstrike? You know what never mind, pour fuel on the fire burning below you - go out screaming you turds.

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Sentient_Modem 14 points 2 years ago

Funny that clownstrike.com redirects to crowdstrike.com. I tried this before seeing the .lol domain. Lol

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jabathekek 7 points 2 years ago

While parody sites are not the intended target of these efforts, it’s possible for such sites to be inadvertently impacted. We will review the process and, where appropriate, evolve ongoing anti-fraud activities.

Hmm, I think I've heard something like that before...

But it pledged Wednesday to keep software glitches like last week’s from happening again, and to publicly release a more detailed analysis when it becomes available.

The company added that it is developing a new check for its validation system “to guard against this type of problematic content from being deployed in the future.

"Oops!"

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NegativeLookBehind 4 points 2 years ago
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Hildegarde 3 points 2 years ago

I am illiterate ignore me.

>Senk received a DMCA notice from Cloudflare's trust and safety team, which was then hosting the parody site.

Cloudflare sent themselves a DMCA takedown notice, instead of just taking down the content from their own web hosting for violating their policies. Weird.

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mark 16 points 2 years ago

Cloudflare and Crowdstrike are different companies.

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Hildegarde 15 points 2 years ago

ooooooopppppps someday I will learn to read

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Hildegarde 2 points 2 years ago
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