CEO Carl Pei says remote work “is not compatible” with the company.
Nothing is requiring employees to be in the office five days a week
2 years ago by BrikoX to c/technology
originalucifer 30 points 2 years ago
totally agree. this guy couldnt market his way out of a paper bag... like naming a social media server 'moist'
subignition 14 points 2 years ago
I think it's a bit of a stroke of genius on the article author's part, because it's a great double entendre the way it's written.
SonicBlue03 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 11906485 11910945, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
SpaceNoodle 104 points 2 years ago
'This is a company for grown ups'
And yet you don't trust your employees to get their work done unless directly before your watchful eye? Get real, chump.
100_kg_90_de_belin 16 points 2 years ago
Unironically written by the CEO of a mobile phone company.
some_guy 64 points 2 years ago
Nothing CEO Carl Pei suggested that those unable to transition from remote working should leave the company and “find an environment where you thrive.”
Get completely fucked you dismissive shitbag.
Pei said in the email, telling employees who are worried about flexibility that “this is a company for grown ups.”
I'll say it again. Get completely…
I typically cheer device makers because I want competition to force my preferred device maker to compete on innovation. I had been on the side of Nothing. I now want it to fail. I want this dickfaced asshole executive to find out he ran his company into the ground by pissing off the talented people below him.
Feathercrown 14 points 2 years ago
Most likely his company will slowly crumble over the coming decades as his top talent leaves due to mistreatment while he wonders helplessly and obliviously how it all went wrong
AlecSadler 6 points 2 years ago
Seriously. I won't buy Nothing-anything at this point over this move. Carl Pei can fuck right off.
snooggums 64 points 2 years ago
“I know this is a controversial decision that may not be a fit for everyone, and there are definitely companies out there that thrive in remote or hybrid setups,” he added. “But that’s not right for our type of business, and won’t help us fully realize our potential as a company.”
By comparison, Nothing’s demand for five-day office attendance may sting for employees who helped shape the company while embracing its founding work-from-home environment.
Besides calling people who want flexibility children, the company was founded as work from home even though that wasn't right for the type of company. Sounds like the CEO doesn't know how the company works.
PriorityMotif 2 points 2 years ago path: 0 11906992 11913459, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
massive_bereavement 28 points 2 years ago
How to do lay off people without having to fork out severance pay.
cm0002 10 points 2 years ago
I've seen that theory a lot, but I just don't think it's actually all that common. Layoffs are layoffs, but the common thing about layoffs is they are usually calculated to cut the worst performing employees and go up from there.
A forced RTO policy is going to be unpredictable in who stays and who goes
funkless_eck 3 points 2 years ago
also it guarantees that everyone starts using working hours to apply for jobs instead of doing their work.
Zagorath 2 points 2 years ago
The thing is, these decisions are made at a level that doesn't much care for the distinction. Mid-level managers know who the good workers are, and in regular layoffs they'd be making decisions about who to lay off. But even before that happens, top-level executives have decided how many to lay off, and it's not much of a concern to them who specifically goes.
Same with RTO constructive layoffs. They estimate a certain percentage will quit, reducing their cost base. There's not much more thought than that.
p03locke 45 points 2 years ago
"Nothing is requiring employees to be in the office five days a week"
Yes, you're right. There isn't a thing that requires this. You shouldn't be required to do so.
The problem with naming a company an idiotic name like "Nothing" is that it's so easy to make who's-on-first jokes.
huzzahunimpressively 7 points 2 years ago
theres nothing i hate more than nothing nothing keeps me up at night i toss and turn over nothing nothing can cause a great big fight
Yeah I was really confused when I read the title lol, I have to remember that there is a company named Nothing
Diplomjodler3 24 points 2 years ago
Not that it matters but that would make me incompatible with the company.
Quill7513 16 points 2 years ago
Yeah their hardware was overpriced and I couldn't find any justification for their prices being higher than "well but we're independent and our hardware is aesthetically pleasing"
Like... I get why Teracube and Fairphone are expensive for their specs. But Nothing gave me cryptobro vibes
R00bot 2 points 2 years ago
Stock android doesn't really exist. It barely works and is missing essential features like working Bluetooth audio. It's intended as a starting point for companies to build their own experience on top of, if any company released a phone running anywhere near stock android they would be laughed out of existence. Linus Tech tips did a pretty good overview of what stock android is a few days ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-hlRB2izres
SoleInvictus 22 points 2 years ago
Wait, a CEO that's a total sack of shit? I don't believe it!
/s
Semi_Hemi_Demigod 17 points 2 years ago
“Remote work is not compatible with a high ambition level plus high speed,”
Because wasting time shipping squishy sacks of flesh through meatspace to push buttons is so much faster than having them push buttons at home. /s
But if you have as shitty a company name as "Nothing" then I guess you need all the ambition you can get.
Mouselemming 6 points 2 years ago
You forget, said shipping of fleshbags is done on UNPAID time. CEOs love unpaid time.
JakenVeina 17 points 2 years ago
This right here. This article title. This is why you don't name your company "Nothing".
Red_October 6 points 2 years ago
And when I saw it I had initially thought "Wouldn't it be funny if someone named their company Nothing and was struggling to push a return to office?"
hdnsmbt 16 points 2 years ago
Pei said in the email, telling employees who are worried about flexibility that “this is a company for grown ups.”
During the next pandemic, do employees get to refuse working from home on the grounds of being grown ups?
KomfortablesKissen 3 points 2 years ago
Why would you want to play into the hands of such a company?
Snapz 15 points 2 years ago
Well, if I was ever going to consider buying any "Nothing" product, that's enough to say fuck that notion indefinitely.
Also makes me wonder about teenage engineering at this point and the company they keep... Nothing and the Rabbit - shit hype products from shit grifter companies run by shit people.
breadsmasher 8 points 2 years ago
My company employer, after covid said “we are considering moving back to a hybrid way of working”. I replied “Well I am considering resigning to go somewhere that is fully remote. I am not the only one”
And we never had a mandatory return to office mentioned again
potustheplant -3 points 2 years ago
And everybody clapped.
breadsmasher 1 point 2 years ago
No. Why would anyone clap? It was a conversation, which resulting in not having a return to office policy. I doubt I was the sole reason
potustheplant -3 points 2 years ago
sure thing
not_fond_of_reddit 6 points 2 years ago
Fair enough, I’ll show up at the office when they pay me for the time I just wasted commuting to the office. It’s my only ”asset” that is truly mine in this day and age.
originalucifer 6 points 2 years ago
theres nothing i hate more than nothing nothing keeps me up at night i toss and turn over nothing nothing can cause a great big fight
answersplease77 5 points 2 years ago
factory worker, industrial production, security gaurd, janitor, HR cock sucker, upper mamagment boot licker, ...yes so many jobs require you to be in office and cant be done remotely but the problem is slavewaging 50 hrs a week (including commmuting and preparation for work) with minimum to no paid vaccation days a year
ElectroLisa 4 points 2 years ago
Kinda predictable from a person who claimed their product (Phone 2a) has the best unboxing experience, despite bundling an USB cable to it only.
abfarid 2 points 2 years ago
Can we please stop complaining about lack of chargers bundled with phones? If the phone is overpriced, then sure, maybe it's fair, but if the price of the charger is subtracted from the price of the phone, then that's the right thing to do, the charger can be bought separately if needed. Everybody has like a dozen USB chargers at home, it's standard now. No need to bundle e-waste.
ElectroLisa 0 points 2 years ago
"Old" chargers are USB-A. Bundled cables are USB-C to USB-C, so you have to buy a new charger for it, or an USB-A to USB-C cable.
Additionally within the same brand you can have cheap phones with full suite of accessories - a charger, a case and screen protector, but once you go higher with a price tag you get less in a box. Example: OnePlus Nord CE 3 Lite, which is now just a brand of Oppo, comes with a charger, a case and a screen protector, while their higher end model Oppo Reno 12 Pro comes with just a screen protector.
Samsung went even a step further and started making their boxes thicker, suggesting it comes with a charger, but in reality it comes with just a cable inside. Forgot which model was it though, iirc one of their Galaxy M line.
abfarid 1 point 2 years ago
You can use your old USB-A to C cables, it's not mandatory to use the new cables. For me, they often stay in the box, because all of my chargers already have cables anyway.
Everything else you said it's just examples of how other manufacturers still bundle e-waste. This is in no way a counter-argument. I'm not saying companies aren't assholes, the problem isn't that they don't include chargers. The problem is that they exclude chargers and keep the price the same without any significant improvements to the phone itself.
Vast majority of buyers these days already have chargers, and the bundled charger will only bump the price, only to be chucked into a drawer to stay there forever. If a consumer does need a charger, there are plenty good options on the market with multi-port options.
SonicBlue03 3 points 2 years ago
Nothing doings.
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That headline is rather confusing. Then I realised that "Nothing" is a fricking company.
Also branding his stuff as Nothing phone/OS/ear is hilarious. Hilariously bad.
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