MAGA pastor claims Kamala Harris deployed "witchcraft" in Trump debate

2 years ago by MicroWave to c/politics

The pastor said the vice president was able to use "occult-empowered deception" against Trump.
BertramDitore 220 points 2 years ago

This would be genuinely hilarious if it wasn’t so goddamn serious for so many indoctrinated folks.

So let me get this straight: she’s black, she’s south Asian, she’s a woman, she’s married to a Jew, and she’s a witch? I think I like her even more now…

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acosmichippo 76 points 2 years ago

I hope she leans into it for halloween.

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lemmyng 14 points 2 years ago

She should have Bambi Thug as a guest on her next rally.

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gravitas_deficiency 7 points 2 years ago

Lmao holy shit that would be fantastic

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JudahBenHur 3 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure the world has essentially (mercifully) forgotten about her

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XTL 9 points 2 years ago

You can be sure the world has never heard of whatever that is.

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match 4 points 2 years ago

fuck no i love Bambie Thug, faer new single just dropped this week

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ThePantser 18 points 2 years ago

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futatorius 2 points 2 years ago
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ZagamTheVile 135 points 2 years ago

To be fair, any technology you don't understand can be mistaken for magic. In this case that technology is coherence.

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SassyRamen 23 points 2 years ago

God damn, I should have worn sun screen, I didn't expect that hot of a burn!

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HawlSera 12 points 2 years ago

The full quote is

Any SUFFICIENTLY ADVANCED technology can not be distinguished from magic.

Personally, I prefer to say technology that can be distinguished from magic is not sufficiently advanced.

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Heikki 11 points 2 years ago path: 0 12329196 12330157, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 0
Kecessa 6 points 2 years ago

See: Warhammer 40k

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thegr8goldfish 4 points 2 years ago

Found the ghost of Arthur C. Clarke.

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roguetrick 106 points 2 years ago

I originally wasn't going to vote for Kamala since she was a cop, but now that I know she's a witch I've changed my mind.

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Hadriscus 5 points 2 years ago

I'd watch

Kamala: Democratic Witch Cop

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roguetrick 3 points 2 years ago

I take it Tim Waltz is the folksy desk sergeant, but who plays the no nonsense Captain that doesn't believe in witchcraft? Sanders?

"Kamala, I'm once again asking for you to not place hexagrams on the crime scene."

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Diplomjodler3 4 points 2 years ago

So who were you going to vote for?

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roguetrick 22 points 2 years ago

That dead bear that Kennedy dumped in the park.

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SassyRamen 68 points 2 years ago

Tax the churches! They are political Propaganda arms of the Republican party.

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zloubida 7 points 2 years ago

Tax the churches indeed.

But a lot of churches aren't the political propaganda arms of the GOP, you just don't hear about 'em.

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eatthecake 64 points 2 years ago

"She knew she could speak 20 lies about Trump and not be contradicted. That was the arrangement," he wrote in a second post. "And that's why I call it witchcraft, because it has the effect of planting and reinforcing thoughts in the mind of the listener that defiles perspective. This makes it easier to manipulate people."

He's describing Trump and his cult. It really is projection lol.

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odelik 57 points 2 years ago

What a weirdo.

Didn't this pastor get the memo, witches and Wicca are cool now.

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Whirling_Cloudburst 53 points 2 years ago

Pastor defends his antichrist.

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riskable 1 point 2 years ago

He's trying to counter witchcraft with whiney bitchcraft.

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BlucifersVeinyAnus 52 points 2 years ago

WHICH IS TOTALLY LEGAL BY THE WAY

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captainlezbian 1 point 2 years ago

Not just legal, it’s fundamentally protected as a right by the first amendment

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HawlSera 43 points 2 years ago

If Trump's really the Messiah as this moron believes, shouldn't he be immune to Devil Magic?

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t_berium 1 point 2 years ago
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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 6 points 2 years ago

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That's what the Nat-Cs wish would happen.

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tetrachromacy 36 points 2 years ago

That wasn't witchcraft! What she did was Headology, plain and simple. Far more efficient. All you have to do is make the recipient understand that the lies they tell themselves in the dark corners of their mind are flimsy untruths that everyone can see through.

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dual_sport_dork 13 points 2 years ago

It's only a shame she didn't make him think he was a frog.

But then, Trump is really already kind of a toad.

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grue 8 points 2 years ago

Is Headology a generic witchy thing, or specifically a Discworld thing?

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ReCursing 3 points 2 years ago

AFAIK it started as a Discworld thing but has been adopted by Wiccans IRL

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captainlezbian 2 points 2 years ago

Not just wiccans, all sorts of pagans use it. Because the sort of person who becomes a pagan has a large overlap with the sort of person who loves discworld

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Makeitstop 32 points 2 years ago

So, Trump is "God's Chosen" and has divine backing. But despite God being on his side, a little witchcraft can completely overpower him. I would have thought God's power would be stronger than whatever dark sorcery the Demoncraft party could invoke, but apparently I was wrong.

Yeah, it must be that. It can't be that their orange messiah is just an elderly narcissist with no discipline or self-awareness, a rambling imbecile who can be easily manipulated by anyone that threatens his fragile ego. That would be crazy.

Obviously it must be God's will that Trump become President again, why else would He have told a small minority of believers to follow some rich asshole who embodies all of their most extreme political views? I mean, if he wasn't specifically chosen by God, he wouldn't have a divine mandate that negates the need to be moral or abide by any of that "love your neighbor" shit, and his deeply religious followers would have to choose between their faith and owning the libs.

Since they don't feel bad about their politics overriding the teachings of Jesus, it must be OK, which means it has God's blessing. Therefore, God is on their side and endorses their political views, and their preferred presidential candidate. Which also means that the other side must be working for the devil.

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Archer 0 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I hate it

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Phoenix3875 31 points 2 years ago

What happened to their defensive prayers?

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HawlSera 14 points 2 years ago

Sadly they may have made things worse.

The problem is, when you open yourself up to spiritual forces anything can come through that door... Including your own paranoia... Which is more often attacking you more than demons are.

There was actually this cult, it's still around today, but is so small time it's virtually extinct, called Christian Science. It was not a league of Scientists who were Christians, it wasn't Science at all, it wasn't even Christian as it had more to do with shit on the level of Chris-Chan's Dimensional Merge than anything in the bible.

(Science was a newish term at the time, before they used to call what we call Science "Natural Philosophy", so calling their Group Christian Science was basically the olde timey version of when your Crazy Hippie Aunt watches New Age "Quantum Enlightenment" nonsense on Gaia)

At one point because the Church was grilling them about being called Christian but having nothing to do with the faith, the leader claimed she was the second coming of Jesus and that the powers Christian Science (doesn't really at all) gives you are the same ones Jesus had.

Later in life when her health started to fail, she stayed in a compound and got progressively worse... Because the fear that her "enemies" were "attacking her with Animal Magnetism!" was making her so paranoid that it was destroying her health.

She had live in members of her cult in constant meditation to shun away the sickness.

It got to the point where she'd claim her food was poisoned by "Evil Vibes", resulting in the Chefs having to cook two versions of the same meal in order to get her to eat. One that looked "eh", for her to say it was poisoned, and another that looked fresher to be "After the food was cleansed with psychic powers", if they didn't do this little LARP session of "psychically cleansing the food" and have the right props, she would not eat.

Basically claiming a defensive stance when there's no real threat is a bad idea in certain cases, because the result is you getting so prepared for an attack that you're tense and believe the attacker is everywhere.

But not being defensive at all leaves you open.

Balance in all things.

Before I go, my favorite funfact about Christian Science is the founder of it was a woman who practiced Homeopathy and Phrenology to understand her own illnesses (Likely just hypochondria if history is to be believed), which at the time were considered legitimate forms of medical practice....

But that's not the funfact

And neither is the fact that Homeopathy was highly praised at the time because REAL Medicine was so poor it actually caused more problems than it solved. So because people didn't know any better, it was believed Homeopathy was "The biggest game in town", even though today we realize Homeopathy literally doesn't do anything at all. (Yes, No Medicine was better than Any Medicine at one opint)

What IS the funfact, is after various alleged religious visions, Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of Christian Science, while treating a patient of hers withheld Homeopathic Medicine in place of sugar pills... and her patient got better anyway.

Instead of coming to the conclusion that Homeopathy is an absolute sham, she believed she had successfully and secretly taught a man to cure himself with magical science....

She was so close to a groundbreaking discovery, just not the one she walked away with. It'd be hilarious if Christian Science wasn't responsible for murdering so many children through intentional neglect.

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futatorius 3 points 2 years ago
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HawlSera 1 point 2 years ago

She did, she had a history of lying and hypochondria, and gaslighting herself into believing her own lies because of the hypochondria.

She started suspecting she had powers after she believed she had cured her own paralysis...

The doctor who treated her would review his case files for biographers, and revealed he never believed her to be in critical injury nor even implied that she had any kind of paralysis. What really happened is her own hysteria caused her to blatantly misinterpret everything he said in the worst way possible.

The only reason she had as many followers as she did was because her system actually was helpful. Not because she had powers or anything, but at the time hers was one of the only movements that barred people from smoking, something that people believed was not only harmless, but healthy for you. So people actually were seeing notable improvements in their health and longevity... because they stopped smoking, not because they had magic powers.

There was also the not allowing people to go to the doctor at a time where the doctor was more likely to kill you than your disease.

As Medical Science got better, Christian Science became less helpful and more detrimental.

People really were seeing miracles, Mark Twain even directly stated that Christian Science would one day be bigger than the Roman Empire because of what it was doing for people....

But no one realized it was from abstaining from tobacco

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Diplomjodler3 8 points 2 years ago

Obviously, her witch magic was more powerful. She gets a lot of mana from eating all those cats and dogs.

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riskable 1 point 2 years ago

I'm glad you left out, "thoughts" because we all know that was never a factor in this.

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givesomefucks 29 points 2 years ago

Slightly more plausible than Bluetooth eatings where she had a full team of writers instantly coming up with her responses, all agreeing on it, and relating it to her with zero delay...

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SnotFlickerman 27 points 2 years ago

The bluetooth one is crazy because have you ever tried to talk while you have a voice rambling in your ear?

It's not easy to focus.

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jawa21 13 points 2 years ago
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TransplantedSconie 8 points 2 years ago

HES USING SCIENCE AND LOGIC!!

BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!

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PP_BOY_ 15 points 2 years ago

Even then, like, am I the only person who isn't against candidates having an earpiece and a team helping them? When do you ever think the POTUS is alone and making split-second decisions? They'll always have an advisor or some type of council around them.

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someguy3 15 points 2 years ago

This is supposed to be a presidential debate, not a president and team debate.

Also at the end of the day it's the president that makes the decisions, not the team. You're supposed to evaluate them, in part, on their decision making capability.

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themeatbridge 14 points 2 years ago

I'd support it for fact checking alone. Give them a researcher in their ear who can search the internet for reliable references. It would discourage bullshitting on both sides, and someone like Trump would be instantly shut down.

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AbouBenAdhem 6 points 2 years ago

Instead of an invisible fact-checking team, give them each a laptop (or phone) so they can do their own fact checks, and make the screens visible so we can see what sources they use.

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Boddhisatva 6 points 2 years ago
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futatorius 1 point 2 years ago
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ccunning 3 points 2 years ago

W was alone for a while when deciding whether to put down My Pet Goat…

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abff08f4813c 1 point 2 years ago

Man, if this had been the case I could have seen Biden doing much better in that first debate.

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abff08f4813c 1 point 2 years ago

As improbable as the latter sounds, the former (supernatural powers) I consider to be impossible. And when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

.. which in this case is just that Harris is competent and the other guy is not. No supernatural witchcraft or impossible earbuds required.

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Fedizen 29 points 2 years ago

where can I get my pointy hat that says "witches for Kamala"

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Hadriscus 4 points 2 years ago

hahah yes ! I'd buy one of these

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2piradians 28 points 2 years ago

Well, she did conjure up a can of whoopass

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Black616Angel 23 points 2 years ago

So she is a witch with no backup real except a few leftist woke idiots?
Trump on the other hand is chosen by god and has the whole country behind him...

And he says this one witch is stronger than god and all his followers? Alright, who is he rooting for? I don't get this. They never think about the implications of what they say, do they?

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Evilcoleslaw 12 points 2 years ago

It's one of the core principles of fascism. The enemy is at once weak, feeble, and inferior yet simultaneously powerful, cunning, and insidious.

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Quexotic 11 points 2 years ago

Such is the way with "magical thinking"

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macaro 22 points 2 years ago

Did she turn you into a newt?

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givesomefucks 7 points 2 years ago

He hasn't gotten better, but he might if true believers buy enough AI generated NFTs!

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prole 21 points 2 years ago

"She knew she could speak 20 lies about Trump and not be contradicted. That was the arrangement," he wrote in a second post. "And that's why I call it witchcraft, because it has the effect of planting and reinforcing thoughts in the mind of the listener that defiles perspective. This makes it easier to manipulate people."

Holy projection, Batman

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Colonel_Panic_ 4 points 2 years ago

It really does have "No fair! I had it first!" energy.

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ATDA 20 points 2 years ago

Yeah that's what they say about women with knowledge.

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Regrettable_incident 7 points 2 years ago

#"Burn her!"

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kikutwo 18 points 2 years ago

The witchcraft of facts and common sense.

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Windex007 17 points 2 years ago

LITERALLY 1484

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ravhall 17 points 2 years ago

I’d vote for a witch.

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AbidanYre 5 points 2 years ago path: 0 12328281 12330044, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 2
ravhall 11 points 2 years ago

I… take that back.

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captainlezbian 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah but not just any witch

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Karyoplasma 16 points 2 years ago

Imagine considering not voting for a witch who could literally fix the country with magic lol

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Archer 3 points 2 years ago

Weatherwax/Ogg 2024

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Skoobie 15 points 2 years ago

Dude says its occult witchcraft and then goes on to define collusion and conspiracy. Like, that didn't happen either but those are what he's describing.

Also, just throwing it out there, if the pastor ever made a birthday wish before blowing out candles then that would be witchcraft. Spells are basically intentions combined with ritualistic actions in the hope of a stated outcome.

So yeah, Harris didn't commit witchcraft at the debate but every American does on their birthday. Fun fact 😛

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SuiXi3D 5 points 2 years ago

but every American does on their birthda

Not this one! But does looking up appropriate Latin phrases for my sorcerer’s spells when playing D&D count?

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captainlezbian 1 point 2 years ago

What’s funny is he described the sort of thing religious witches do

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guyoverthere123 15 points 2 years ago

Hear me out now, what if she did?

What if Kamala's witchcraft is just being a good person?

Like, that's some amazing witchcraft.

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AnitaAmandaHuginskis 15 points 2 years ago

What? Trump is so weak his plans can be foiled by simple witchcraft? I thought Trump big, the best stronk? /s

Face it, dude. Trump is an easily manipulated idiot. Harris demonstrated it live on TV.

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BruceTwarzen 5 points 2 years ago

Why wouldn't you deploy your own warlock instead of complaining?

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WaxedWookie 2 points 2 years ago

This is clearly voodoo witchcraft, and MAGA doesn't have a lot of black women - they're all too... uppity. Klandace Owens is too busy playing Goebbels to make the pivot to office, so this is all so unfair!

...God emperor Trump - the world's greatest negotiator who will end the Ukraine and Palestine conflicts before taking office can't possibly be expected to debate a black woman - she's far too powerful.

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futatorius 3 points 2 years ago
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exanime 1 point 2 years ago

She herded him from place to place like he was as the halfwitted livestock he is

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MisterFrog 14 points 2 years ago

What fucking year is it in these people's minds? 1600?

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Etterra 6 points 2 years ago

Sadly no, there are people and even whole communities in 2024 that kill people (usually) women accused of witchcraft. On multiple fucking continents.

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MisterFrog 2 points 2 years ago

Yikes 😬

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JamesStallion 13 points 2 years ago

Remember when they AId Harris as a demon and she the result looked hot as fuck

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ValenThyme 13 points 2 years ago
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TheBat 6 points 2 years ago
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nepenthes 1 point 2 years ago
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Today 13 points 2 years ago

"And that's why I call it witchcraft, because it has the effect of planting and reinforcing thoughts in the mind of the listener that defiles perspective. This makes it easier to manipulate people."

Huh ...

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tiefling 8 points 2 years ago

This fucker wouldn't know witchcraft if it anointed his dick

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Regrettable_incident 12 points 2 years ago

So we have a choice between a president with magic powers or a president who gibbers nonsense while wearing a diaper filled with yellow hamburder shit. Not a hard decision to make, really.

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SuiXi3D 12 points 2 years ago

Okay, so she’s a witch, but she isn't a hag, so we’re good.

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SassyRamen 11 points 2 years ago

insert Geralt of Rivia grunt

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SuiXi3D 8 points 2 years ago

Hey, Geralt could tolerate witches. Even had his way with a few. Not so much hags.

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tiefling 11 points 2 years ago

I can confirm. Precisely a week before the debate, I got a lock of Trump's hair in the mail and a letter from Kamala that said "you know what to do"

You're all welcome

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match 2 points 2 years ago

can you do spells on a toupee??

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Twig 1 point 2 years ago
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mhague 11 points 2 years ago

"MAGA Pastor" is an unholy sounding combination.

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realtegan 1 point 2 years ago

Sounds like a contradiction in terms to me.

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aphlamingphoenix 4 points 2 years ago

Sounds illegal. They're not supposed to endorse candidates while not having to pay taxes. IRS should end this church.

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PP_BOY_ 11 points 2 years ago

I s2g if Dems were even half as cool as MAGA says they are...

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someguy3 3 points 2 years ago

s2g?

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Davel23 3 points 2 years ago

Swear to god.

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captainlezbian 10 points 2 years ago

I wish she was that cool

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skvlp 10 points 2 years ago

Damn, I can’t wait for her to shut down autocrats and strongmen with "occult-empowered deception".

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Zombiepirate 9 points 2 years ago

It's true, I saw her give him the evil eye during the debate. Now he's cursed with ineloquence until he makes a pilgrimage to his fatherland and burns a wreath of holly under the full moon.

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Treczoks 8 points 2 years ago

They are really running out of real arguments.

On the other hand, this is one of the more creative explanation of Trumps utter f-up. What's next? Were the aliens providing Trump with mental energy having reactor trouble in their UFOs?

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x00za 7 points 2 years ago
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futatorius 1 point 2 years ago
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jordanlund 7 points 2 years ago

"Newsweek has contacted Harris's campaign via email for comment."

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solomon42069 6 points 2 years ago
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Sam_Bass 6 points 2 years ago

The biggest criminals call themselves "pastor"

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AtomicHotSauce 6 points 2 years ago
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Rapidcreek 6 points 2 years ago

Those fingers in my hair

That sly come hither stare

That strips my conscience bare

It's witchcraft

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Hegar 5 points 2 years ago

I will always hear that in Bart's voice.

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rustydomino 5 points 2 years ago

“She’s a witch!”

“Yeah, but she’s OUR witch.”

~Capt. Malcolm Reynolds

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futatorius 5 points 2 years ago
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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 3 points 2 years ago

She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn’t know she used Black magic until a number of years ago, when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as a Black magician.

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exanime 4 points 2 years ago

In this day and age people still refuse to use the proper, respectful names...

The proper title is not Black Magician, it's Dark Magician Girl...

Did nobody watch freaking Yu Gi Oh???!!!

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TachyonTele 2 points 2 years ago

Black Magic Woman

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ours 2 points 2 years ago

Obviously Haitian Voodoo.

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modifier 5 points 2 years ago

Honestly, as a cope, I find this infinitely INFINITELY more satisfying than the "3 on 1 debate" weak sauce.

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WeirdGoesPro 3 points 2 years ago

As a Thelemite, I approve these tactics.

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Bonesince1997 3 points 2 years ago

That's funny because a few times I spied her hands, held out in front of her, fingers outstretched, looking like she was casting a spell! Lol. Nevertheless, they were all thoughts for funsies only.

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14th_cylon 3 points 2 years ago

Talk about extreme...

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skvlp 2 points 2 years ago
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pyrflie 1 point 2 years ago
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chemicalprophet -1 points 2 years ago

Usually is accuse them of being dumb as fuck but these dolts are obviously much dumber than fuck. Poor fuck, I didn’t mean anything by it😘

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