Food safety

2 years ago by The Picard Maneuver to c/memes

DScratch 266 points 2 years ago

Why would you expect tap water to kill bacteria?

You’re washing bugs and dirt off.

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driving_crooner 27 points 2 years ago

Its also wash out bacteria.

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blanketswithsmallpox 16 points 2 years ago

The mechanical action of water running and wiping is what takes out 90% of germs and bacteria already. Soap is only responsible for that next 9%.

There's still 1% unless you autoclave it.

Tldr: You probably don't need soap for dishes if you wash them during initial rinse immediately after use and they aren't super gross.

You still want to wash and soap your hands cause 10% of cold germs is plenty.

Also quit licking your fingers to open the plastic bags for produce at the store you filthy fucks.

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Rubisco 9 points 2 years ago

Username checks tf out.
o7

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Cris_Color 5 points 2 years ago

I mean that only seems like it'd be true if oil isn't involved, since running water over something coated with oil seems like it'd do pretty much nothing

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blanketswithsmallpox 3 points 2 years ago

Through the power of not letting the oil set, and using a rag or brush with warm to hot water, you will be surprised just how little to no soap you need at all.

Fwiw I'm not cleaning greasy ass pans regularly either. We're too poor for that lol.

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affiliate 13 points 2 years ago

the belief that a quick 3 second rinse will kill off bacteria seems to be consistent with the ways that most people try to wash their hands

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Anticorp 4 points 2 years ago

No I'm not!

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Clear -70 points 2 years ago

I don't think that salad bought in a store should have bugs and dirt on it, if you find them in your sink when you wash it you should change supermarket

EDIT: My bad, I was thinking about pre packaged salad, not like a whole head of lettuce, OP is correct and OOP should wash their lettuce better

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filcuk 55 points 2 years ago

They're definitely washed after being harvested, but as someone who has seen how it's stored between that and the store shelves, I'll give it a rinse every time.

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scytale 40 points 2 years ago

You might be thinking of pre-packaged salad which, while already washed, can still contain bacteria. But if you’re buying plain lettuce, it’s absolutely not pre-washed.

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Clear 6 points 2 years ago

Ah, you're right I was thinking about the pre packaged one, now all the people telling me they have found multiple bugs in their lettuce makes sense considering I would probably expect to find small bugs and dirt in a whole head of lettuce

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Scrollone 1 point 2 years ago

I feel that they still spray it with water, even if not thoroughly, just to remove the biggest pieces of dirt. But I may be wrong.

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aubertlone 39 points 2 years ago

Bro people poop in the fields because they literally just don't have time to go back to the restroom in between shifts of picking

And I don't blame them in the slightest. They have a very hard job

So I don't know about you but I will always be washing any produce that I buy at the grocery store as soon as I bring it in my house

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leftytighty 19 points 2 years ago
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JeezNutz 1 point 2 years ago

Used to work at a supermarket. We would hide the poop behind the cheese section so it wouldn't stink

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Dabundis 34 points 2 years ago

Lettuce grows in a bundle of very tightly packed leaves. At no part in the growing - transport - shelving - selling chain can anyone be expected to thoroughly wash between the leaves, especially near the root. Rinse your veggies before using.

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Riven 2 points 2 years ago

And that's for iceberg lettuce. Romain and it's kind have loose leafs so a ton gets in there. Bok Choi too, I cook with it a lot and I see a bit of dirt in there all the time. I always give my veggies a good rinse.

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DScratch 30 points 2 years ago

Bugs mean fresh and no pesticides!

BUGS GOOD!

It’s like finding soil on your tubers. It’s better to have to wash it off.

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TheDarksteel94 8 points 2 years ago

Also, unwashed potatoes will last longer, as water causes fungus and bacteria to grow.

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Mothra 13 points 2 years ago

I don't know where you live but I'm in Australia and I also lived in South America and I've seen plenty of dirt, caterpillars, aphids and flies too many times on my lettuce, harvested from different sources, seasons, and purchased from different supermarket chains and small grocer shops.

And it was never a problem for me. Where are you getting your sterile lettuce from, so I make sure I don't?

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Kecessa 9 points 2 years ago

Even pre packaged, check the package to confirm if you need to clean it or not

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PunnyName 4 points 2 years ago

I don't think

Yeah, we know...

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Clear 5 points 2 years ago

That's literally me, that's who you made fun of.

Do you feel bed yet?

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PunnyName 5 points 2 years ago

I wish I was in bed.

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Resonosity 2 points 2 years ago

I've been using Original Commenter (OC) to talk about the person who starts a comment thread. Seems to be pretty intuitive. Wonder what the acronym would be for commenters responding to OC and starting different comment branches. Probably makes sense to just use their name

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MutilationWave 3 points 2 years ago

OC already means Original Content so at best you will just be confusing people.

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Resonosity 2 points 2 years ago

Oof yeah true

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NikkiDimes 2 points 2 years ago

I feel like OP can be used to mean either the original thread poster or the author of a branching comment, granted that it's properly contextualized, e.g. multiple layers of O lol. It's awkward, but it gets the point across.

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samus12345 66 points 2 years ago

Who rinses things to remove bacteria? I just want to remove dirt.

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Agent641 7 points 2 years ago

We tell ourselves these lies, as we fear the truth.

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meliaesc 6 points 2 years ago

Only because you don't like the color, or maybe the texture of dirt? We wash off dirt because it's dirty, and dirty things aren't good for us (because of bacteria...).

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zarkanian 12 points 2 years ago

Eating a little bit of dirt probably won't hurt you, but it is unpleasant.

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radioactivefunguy 11 points 2 years ago

Also because gritty lettuce makes a salad I don't eat. Spinach is the worst . . . plus it seems to have Listeria from time to time . . . 3.2 second wash minimum

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samus12345 2 points 2 years ago

Both the texture and whatever may be in it are undesirable.

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Sop 62 points 2 years ago

You wash because of the pesticides.

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spankmonkey 36 points 2 years ago

Also the bugs, fecal matter, and dirt that can be in the folds and pockets.

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Sinaf 10 points 2 years ago

Ok, but what about the salad lettuce?

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spankmonkey 3 points 2 years ago

We are talking about washing lettuce, prior to it becoming a salad.

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Sinaf 8 points 2 years ago

Sorry, but I wanted to make a stupid "switcharoo" kind of joke that would imply a significant lack of personal hygiene on my part.

In German salad also means lettuce, so that's why it wasn't as clear as I wanted it to be.

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simplejack 3 points 2 years ago

Ackchyually.jpg

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huginn 18 points 2 years ago

You wash it because of the ratlungworm that raw snail and slug can give you.

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RubberElectrons 5 points 2 years ago

Oh fuuuuck. Nature is crazy 😬

Shit like this is why I don't believe there's a god

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someguy3 0 points 2 years ago

They've studied that and it doesn't get rid of pesticides.

To get rid of pesticides you need to immerse it in a baking soda solution for about 20 minutes.

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huginn 13 points 2 years ago

They've studied it and you're wrong

https://portal.ct.gov/...

The correct answer is 9/12 pesticides are removed by Simple rinsing with water. Detergents do not improve results compared to mechanical removal via rinsing for 30 seconds.

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someguy3 3 points 2 years ago

At a minimum rinse all fresh produce under tap water for at least thirty seconds.

The mechanical action of rubbing the produce under tap water is likely responsible for removing pesticide residues.

Personally I wouldn't call mechanical action of rubbing to be rinsing. I would have liked to see the % removed, but skimming that article I didn't see. Also in my experience people don't rub for 30 literal seconds, the people I watch are lucky to break 5 seconds.

But the main point I want to make is that baking soda is a base that breaks down the pesticide.

Liang [4] studied the removal of five organophosphorus pesticides in raw cucumber with home preparation, and the research results show that washing by tap water for 20 min only caused a pesticides reduction of 26.7–62.9%. Sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate solution caused a pesticides reduction of 66.7–98.9%.

The removal efficiency of other washing solutions outperformed the tap water; tap water washing only caused a 10–40% loss of the 10 pesticides, and the AlEW, micron calcium, and active oxygen solution caused a 40–90% loss of the 10 pesticides.

AIEW being alkaline electrolyzed water, which I understand to be baking soda.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6388112

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huginn 1 point 2 years ago

AlEW was not the baking soda, it's a separate thing if I understood it correctly.

Additionally you're complaining that nobody rinses their food for 30 seconds while expecting them to bathe it in high ph water for 45 minutes??

Furthermore they were comparing it not with rinsing and running but rather just soaking it in water for 20 minutes.

And despite all that card stacking water still was 69% removal at its high range, which overlaps significantly with the low range of the chemical baths.

I'll keep rinsing and running, thanks.

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Ephera 4 points 2 years ago

Probably depends a lot on the pesticides and therefore country...

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randomdeadguy 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you. I thought that pesticides wouldn't come off with simple rinsing.

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huginn 5 points 2 years ago path: 0 13039116 13040175 13041340 13042641, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 3
randomdeadguy 2 points 2 years ago

Awesome! Looks like rinsing and 30 second rubbing is the way to go. Thank you.

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Septimaeus 41 points 2 years ago

Bodies are pretty OK with dietary bacteria. Same goes for dirt, bugs, and Will Arnett.

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YarHarSuperstar 9 points 2 years ago

Is ... Is that Will Arnett?? Or am I missing the joke?? It doesn't look like him to me.

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blargbluuk 14 points 2 years ago

This is Mark Hoppus from Blink-182

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YarHarSuperstar 5 points 2 years ago

Thank you. Guess I'm just missing the joke lol

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AquaTofana 5 points 2 years ago

I think OP and I just have the same issue with similar looking faces, because I also thought this was Gob from Arrested Development.

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fossphi 1 point 2 years ago

I've made a huge mistake

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Septimaeus 8 points 2 years ago

Oh damn, you’re right! I skimmed past thinking it was one of these lol

Yeah no idea who that is in OP

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Gingernate 8 points 2 years ago

It's mark hoppus from blink-182

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WhatYouNeed 37 points 2 years ago

Ha bacteria! It's not the water you should be worried about.

It's the quart gallon of vodka I wash it down with each night, as I try to blot out my existence.

Fuck you bacteria (and my liver), I WIN!

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OrnateLuna 4 points 2 years ago

If you really think about it your liver is just a massive collection of bacteria

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M137 33 points 2 years ago

The level of idiocy needed to think that the reason you rinse it is to kill bacteria is disturbing to imagine.

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where_am_i 33 points 2 years ago

Err, your immune system can cope with a bit of bacteria. But if you don't wash your salad and get a massive load into yourself, your body will deal with it by extorting everything in your stomach. E.g. you'll puke the entire night. You're welcome.

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BluesF 21 points 2 years ago

When you rinse salad with water you are not cleaning a significant amount of bacteria off it. You're getting soil and bugs.

Unless your salad is contaminated with something, not washing it will at worst be gritty and unpleasant. It won't make you ill. If it does, washing it will make no difference.

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CthulhuDreamer 8 points 2 years ago

What do you even mean? Obviously, you are washing off all the bacteria that is in the soil and the bugs. It doesn't make it sterile, but rinsing makes the overall amout of bacteria significantly lower....

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BluesF 5 points 2 years ago

Yes I suppose that's true.

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ech 2 points 2 years ago

Clearly you haven't heard of rat lungworm.

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BluesF 2 points 2 years ago

Sure, if you live somewhere with parasitic worms you should take extra care. Still, you aren't cleaning bacteria off anything with water.

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where_am_i 0 points 2 years ago

u a science man/woman?

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WoahWoah 1 point 2 years ago
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FelixCress 16 points 2 years ago

if you don't wash your salad and get a massive load into yourself

Who spunks on a salad?

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DragonTypeWyvern 13 points 2 years ago

Men of culture (bacterial)

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captainlezbian 3 points 2 years ago

Horus for one

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Hupf 3 points 2 years ago

a massive load

How about a pile?

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Sarmyth 30 points 2 years ago

Yeah I just don't like the feel of dirt grit and bugs in my teeth.

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exasperation 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah I wash my vegetables for grit. I don't even care that much about bugs, but even the slightest amount of grit is terrible.

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dependencyinjection 10 points 2 years ago

Here’s me raw dogging my salads.

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wildcardology 10 points 2 years ago

I don't know if this is effective, my wife soak the veggies in baking powder/baking soda, I forgot which. She said it kills bugs. Who am I to argue.

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NateNate60 4 points 2 years ago

Baking soda is sodium bicarbonate. Dissolving it in water will increase its pH. I'm not sure if that works for killing bacteria.

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Psythik 2 points 2 years ago

You're thinking of vinegar. Soak them in vinegar.

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acockworkorange 8 points 2 years ago

There are customers visiting my company. I was washing my hand in the bathroom sink when one of them, after doing his business, put his left hand behind, opened the faucet with the right, wet his fingers, closed the faucet, and left. Disgusting piece of shit.

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Disregard3145 2 points 2 years ago

I see this every time I go to a public bathroom. I fucking hate people for it

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scytale 6 points 2 years ago

It probably doesn’t do much, but I soak it in water with vinegar for 10 minutes.

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spankmonkey 5 points 2 years ago

I assume the ratio is low enough on the vinegar that it doesn't impact the taste?

Can't imagine it would hurt anything if it doesn't affect the texture.

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scytale 9 points 2 years ago

Yup, 2-3 teaspoons in a bowl of water. I rinse it with water again after soaking and that washes away any sourness left behind.

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marito -4 points 2 years ago

You can also use a few drops of bleach.

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MadBob 1 point 2 years ago

You should clarify that you have to use a particular kind of bleach heavily diluted, and that it's only common practice in the Americas.

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BalooWasWahoo 2 points 2 years ago

Plenty of salad dressings are just hopped up vinegars anyway.

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WoahWoah 1 point 2 years ago

Yall are crazy. You're literally like 10 pounds of bacteria. 😁

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scytale 1 point 2 years ago

I mean, if you want to include e.coli to your 10 pounds of bacteria, be my guest. Taking some precautions doesn't hurt.

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Snapz 6 points 2 years ago

🎶 "All these, microscopically small things, worms shaped, like rings, inside, my gut, shoot-ing, from my butt" 🎶

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 5 points 2 years ago

🎶 "Norovirus sucks" 🎶

🎶 "I know" 🎶

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FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago

If you can't scrub every lettuce leaf with borax before you eat it, you don't even deserve a salad.

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TheBannedLemming 4 points 2 years ago

I understand the idea of removing the basic dirt and grim that could still be left on the surface of the lettuce. But the idea that running the vegetable under the water has any help in sterilizing it has to be pseudoscience. Too many adults have this mentality that washing produce purchased from the grocery store drastically reduces your chance of food born illness. If your food is contaminated with harmful microscopic organisms in a food outbreak. I doubt washing it is going to change much.

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GreenKnight23 2 points 2 years ago
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TheBannedLemming 1 point 2 years ago

I am not against the actual act itself. It's more the mindless routine many people partake and advocate for without questioning it in the first place. It's more a lack of critical thinking and understanding of the general public. Which I know is a criticism that goes well beyond this simple act.

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taanegl 4 points 2 years ago
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comrade19 4 points 2 years ago

She'll be right

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aaafoodhandler 1 point a year ago
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