Trump’s Pick to Lead U.S. Military Has Tattoos Linked to White Supremacists and Nazis

2 years ago by Five to c/usa

Concerns are mounting over Trump’s pick to lead the Pentagon, Fox News host and military veteran Pete Hegseth. CBS News reports that Hegseth was one of 12 National Guard members who were removed as guards for President Biden’s 2021 inauguration over possible extremist ties. Hegseth has tattoos associated with the white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements, including what’s known as a Jerusalem cross, a symbol used by Christian nationalists. In related news, the government watchdog Accountable.US announced it’s launching a “Trump Accountability War Room” to monitor Trump’s appointments and executive actions as he takes up his second term.
ProdigalFrog 195 points 2 years ago

Trump, picking a Fox news host to run the military

"How could this be any worse?"

That motherfucker: takes off shirt

Narrator: "It got worse."

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ininewcrow 78 points 2 years ago

Wait until he opens his mouth and starts talking

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100_kg_90_de_belin 12 points 2 years ago

Wait until he uses the military to do something even more nefarious than what they usually do around the world

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shalafi 97 points 2 years ago
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Dkarma -17 points 2 years ago

Get an ak. Ar is jam city

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xpinchx 15 points 2 years ago

I have an AR it has never jammed. I also have an AK that has also never jammed.

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Klear 13 points 2 years ago

Sounds like you don't know how to jam.

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xpinchx 7 points 2 years ago

I also have a Gibson, it has never jammed.

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Jumpingspiderman 4 points 2 years ago

Cleaning and maintaining your weapons regularly leads to reliability. FWIW, the AK series are peasants weapons. Which isn't bad.

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FordBeeblebrox 5 points 2 years ago

The M-16 is a jam factory, the M-4 was built to not do that. Slap any nato mag in that bad boy and pew pew

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horse_battery_staple 4 points 2 years ago

The M-16 did jam however it was due to shitty mags, cheaping out on the barrel, not issuing the grunts proper cleaning kits, and not giving them a manual of arms for handling the new weapon in a jungle environment.

Also Mr. president of the universe you're wanted in the galactic council rooms.

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WhatYouNeed 3 points 2 years ago

Don't go Beeblebrox, it's a trap!

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Letstakealook 3 points 2 years ago

Mine is cheap as hell and will cycle anything, including steel case ammo of dubious origin and quality. If you have one that is jamming, there might be a defect that requires your attention.

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Imgonnatrythis 74 points 2 years ago

The entire cabinet is something from a comic book. These guys are all cartoonishly evil.

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Schadrach 9 points 2 years ago

It literally seems like he's just picking a mix of Republicans who are most notorious on social media and people who would make Putin the most happy, so you're not wrong but I don't think it's the actual criterion he's using.

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affiliate 5 points 2 years ago

my theory is that this is all one big power move from trump, to show people what he can get away with. i don’t think he cares that much about the individual people he’s nominating, he more so cares about showing people that he can pick literally anyone he wants and no one will stop him.

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FenrirIII 2 points 2 years ago

And Trump is bypassing all background checks by the FBI.

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watson387 69 points 2 years ago

Of course he does. These are all complete garbage human beings. Can't wait to hear the moronic defense of this is somehow not racist.

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Zachariah 33 points 2 years ago

“It’s all just a joke.”

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Drusas 29 points 2 years ago

Who doesn't tattoo jokes onto their body?

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metaStatic 8 points 2 years ago

emo kids with dotted lines on their wrists sweating right now

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OldManBOMBIN 4 points 2 years ago

Same for us guys with "Your Name" on our asses

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pearsaltchocolatebar 8 points 2 years ago

My wife is a tattoo artist, and lots of people do.

But, he isn't one of those people.

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Lianodel 9 points 2 years ago

"It's going to be a maze."

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OldManBOMBIN 3 points 2 years ago

"As soon as I get my next check and pay off my payday loan and pill guy"

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masterofn001 66 points 2 years ago

When does Russia invade to de-nazify the US?

(They already have, comrade. And your citizens voted it in)

Here's another question:

If Russia launched a nuke at the US, would puppet trump use the launch codes?

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Jesusaurus 36 points 2 years ago

Probably not because he would probably tell Putin to target a major Democratic city center

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masterofn001 14 points 2 years ago

Dearborn, MI would probably be high on the list.

High Muslim population. Heavy Democratic leaning (except this year. Lol)

One obvious one NYC, but he wouldn't want to hurt his property value.

So, pretty much the entire pacific coast.

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deadbeef79000 11 points 2 years ago

The launch codes are 00000 anyway, so...

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cannedtuna 11 points 2 years ago

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hissingmeerkat 1 point 2 years ago

You're missing three zeros.

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reksas 3 points 2 years ago

more like that insane fuck would nuke some place as final middle finger before he dies to old age

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AntiOutsideAktion -7 points 2 years ago

The reason republicans were able to take over is because liberals brains have been turned into soup

look at this shit

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Bakkoda 56 points 2 years ago

It was pretty obvious a decade ago

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Soup 22 points 2 years ago

I had to check if this was a bad freeze frame or what and nope she fires that hand out straight as a goddamn arrow and leaves it like that. She wasn’t caught mid-wave, just straight up doing the ol’ nazi salute.

It’s wild that these people are using the same imagery as the nazis. You’d think that they’d have their own brand as most people aren’t knowingly the bad guys and the ones that are are generally smarter than that but they just can’t fuckin’ help larp as the poster children for worst thing the modern world has dealt with(though more recent times are making it look kinda normal).

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thesmokingman 45 points 2 years ago path: 0 13469216, hotness: undefined, score: 45, children: 5
billiam0202 39 points 2 years ago

The big question will be whether or not anyone cares who has the ability to do anything about it.

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RvTV95XBeo 25 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm sure AG Gaetz will get right on that

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Backlog3231 36 points 2 years ago
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Jumpingspiderman 6 points 2 years ago

Oh, yeah, that will happen with Matt "baby-rapin'" Gaetz as AG. Hell it wouldn't happen with Milquetoast Merrick Garland because that would be "political".

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jaggedrobotpubes 1 point 2 years ago

Anybody in the trump cabinet who does not present video proof of them raping a child or committing hate crimes while doing nazi salutes is going to be prosecuted for disloyalty.

It's the trump white house resume.

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Prandom_returns 42 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the news-media is salivating on all the clicks it's receiving right now.

Almost if it's benefiting them that Trump was elected. Hmm.

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AntiOutsideAktion 9 points 2 years ago

Couldn't possibly be gaslighting the country about a mentally incapacitated incumbent until 2 months from the election

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Goodman 6 points 2 years ago

Might as well make the most of it before they get censored lol.

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BigMacHole 39 points 2 years ago

Trump nominating a Literal Nazi to lead our Military is PROOF that DEMOCRATS were Overreacting!

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LittleTarsier 34 points 2 years ago

Some of those that work forces...

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errer 5 points 2 years ago

Some?

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Pelicanen 2 points 2 years ago

Rage Against the Machine lyrics.

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errer 7 points 2 years ago

I’m aware.

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Chef 2 points 2 years ago

The original lyric was:

“Some of those that hold office are the same that burn crosses.”

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steel_nomad 30 points 2 years ago

"Trump Accountability War Room". Because suddenly presidential accountability is VERY important.

.....wait, what?

Also, using the term "war room" for everything. Peak USA.

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affiliate 8 points 2 years ago

what’s the point of a room if you can’t have a war in it

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Yeller_king 7 points 2 years ago

The war room was a joke in Dr. Strangelove, so of fucking course it became a real thing.

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DragonTypeWyvern 4 points 2 years ago

It's important to me that y'all realize war rooms are a real thing, have been for centuries if not millennia, and weren't invented for movies or news.

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Notyou 6 points 2 years ago

Well calling it a Revenge Room would have been too obvious.

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Auli 3 points 2 years ago

Just copied Alberta Canada. We have had a war room for years now. A war room can’t climate activists I think it is.

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steel_nomad 0 points 2 years ago

Gotta admit, that's pretty damn cool, for Canada, anyway.

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todd_bonzalez -3 points 2 years ago
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_cryptagion 5 points 2 years ago
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steel_nomad 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah I think you missed my point there, scooter. I'm questioning the reasoning. As in, "after hundreds of years, you are saying that ONLY NOW do we need an "Office of Accountability"? Boggles my mind. Where was this 200 FUCKING YEARS AGO? Oh, "BUT ITS TRUMP, SOMEONE NEEDS TO KEEP AN EYE ON HIM" Holy fuck. Everyone is just

So

Stupid

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undergroundoverground 27 points 2 years ago

You know what, I'm starting to think you guys really should start building that wall around you.

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NigelFrobisher 27 points 2 years ago

People shouldn’t fear governments. Governments should fear their people.

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jaggedrobotpubes 3 points 2 years ago

I love this.

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DragonTypeWyvern 3 points 2 years ago

V for Vendetta is going to absolutely melt your mind, as it should.

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Allonzee 25 points 2 years ago

Allies kill Nazis, Allies have babies, babies become assholes, assholes have baby Nazis.

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Iheartcheese 2 points 2 years ago

Nazis eat man, woman inherits the earth.

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abbiistabbii 23 points 2 years ago

Are we surprised?

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pookie 2 points 2 years ago

No.

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enbyecho 0 points 2 years ago

HELL no.

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pineapplelover 21 points 2 years ago

Probably why trump picked him

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ohlaph 19 points 2 years ago

So, Nazi Germany has returned.

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Gammelfisch 2 points 2 years ago

Mango Mussolini and his selections are identical to the worms Mao, Adolph, Joseph and Hideki chose. However, the Nazis were not religious in the traditional sense and they threw plenty Catholic and Protestant priests into their concentration camps. The ones who agreed, wore the cross next to the swastika.

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Bakkoda 2 points 2 years ago

It's gonna be more like Nazi battle Royale. We got some major tribalism brewing here.

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Andromxda 17 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of Putin and his buddy Dmitry Utkin, initial founder of the Wagner mercenary group with multiple tattoos that show the symbol of the Waffen-SS, as well as other Nazi symbols.

https://www.aljazeera.com/...

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technocrit 16 points 2 years ago

This is what USA actually is.

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Crikeste 4 points 2 years ago

Trump simply gave them permission to remove their masks. America is, and always has been, and always will be, a racist country founded on racist principles.

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enbyecho 15 points 2 years ago

I found the documentary "Bad Faith" to be quite enlightening. Highly recommend it:

https://www.badfaithdocumentary.com/

Edit: For understanding more of the context of white christian nationalism, white supremacy, etc

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undergroundoverground 7 points 2 years ago

That makes sense. There's a reason that the 3 European counties who actaully choose fascism were the 3 most Christian: Germany Italy and Spain. No true Scotsman argument withstanding, well over 90% of people in nazi Germany were Christian, for example.

Its not all Christians of course and I don't have any problem with the vast, vast majority of them but there are parts of the bible that can and have been very deliberately bastardised by people for centuries and others just read literally in a way that can be formed into something really horrible. I might not believe in God but I do agree with Christians when they say the Bible is a powerful book. However, like all powerful things, it can be and is being misused, per the book itself.

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enbyecho 6 points 2 years ago

One of the central points of the documentary is that Christian Nationalism isn't about Christianity. It's in direct violation of many of the central tenants of Christianity... not that that's stopped Christians before. But it's the perfect vessel to encapsulate a white supremacist power play.

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TheReturnOfPEB 14 points 2 years ago path: 0 13470465, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
Showroom7561 13 points 2 years ago

Miller and this guy. Two confirmed Nazis... this is going to end up great. /s

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LuxSpark 11 points 2 years ago

Oh...right.

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PanArab 10 points 2 years ago

No one should be surprised, this book was written 12 years ago:

"Irregular Army: How the US Military Recruited Neo-Nazis, Gang Members, and Criminals to Fight the War on Terror"

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Gammelfisch 10 points 2 years ago

Very dangerous and the US military will soon resemble the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, because of their insanity towards religion. God is not the the MAGATs.

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hopesdead 9 points 2 years ago

Of course they do.

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metaStatic 7 points 2 years ago

so he'll fit right in

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Montagge 5 points 2 years ago

So just like a lot of the military

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NatakuNox 38 points 2 years ago

Actually the military aggressively weeds out and removes "out right" racist and those with extreme ideologies. Turns out having racist in your military units doesn't lead to a effective fighting force. Yes there are racist people in the military and it has always been a white male dominated institution. Do to the mixing of all walks of life (kind of like college.) I honestly believe if push comes to shove the military would back the people over Trump. That's been the true goal of the whole woke military hearings to Congress.

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chilburn06 12 points 2 years ago

Same goes for gang related tats. My sister had to explain that she was not in fact part of the Latin Kings for the crown on her shoulder, just a maid in a Mardi Gras crew.

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andrew_bidlaw 3 points 2 years ago

Donald's Eleven

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Sam_Bass 1 point 2 years ago

Confirmed: doesn't know his head from his toes

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ntma -2 points 2 years ago
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danc4498 -5 points 2 years ago

Might be an unpopular comment, but I googled the Jerusalem cross and it appears to be more of a religious symbol than anything.

Saying he has tattoos linked with white nationalists is just sensationalism. And it has gotten the exact response in this thread that it wanted.

Edit:

For the pitchfork wielding lemmings, if you search for “Jerusalem cross” on ADL Hate Symbol Searcg, it returns ZERO results.

Hating on this guy because you misinterpreted a tattoo that he has only makes you and people like you look ridiculous. And when the next guy stands up and says actual hateful things, WE won’t have a voice because YOU wasted it on garbage news stories like this one.

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Glitterbomb 36 points 2 years ago

Might be an unpopular comment, but I googled the Swastika and it appears to be more of a religious symbol than anything.

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danc4498 -17 points 2 years ago

😂 Clearly you googled neither… literally every link for “swastika” mentions nazis. Google “Jerusalem cross” and the only posts you see related to white nationalism are Reddit posts with people asking if the symbol is related to white nationalism/nazis and nearly every comment saying it is not.

Edit: so many downvotes from people that also put 0 effort into looking this up.

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AnUnusualRelic 20 points 2 years ago

They might mean other tattoos, he seems to have a collection.

It still makes him a religious weirdo, possibly with a bizarre crusade fetish. Not a great look.

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danc4498 -4 points 2 years ago

The article specifically mentioned that tattoo and no other ones… I’m not saying this dude is qualified for the job. There’s probably tons of legit reasons to hate this pick.

This article is just rage bate, though. And judging by this thread it is a successful one.

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TheHighRoad 3 points 2 years ago

It also means he's a terrible Christian because Christians are not supposed to tattoo themselves 🙄

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kameecoding 17 points 2 years ago

Yes and the swastika is the symbol of well-being

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Aksamit 5 points 2 years ago

Not to detract from this guy likely yes being a massive nazi piece of shit-

-but many deeply religious Polish Catholics who lived through WW2 and the atrocities, had (maybe still have, idk my grandparent and aunties who did are now dead) Jerusalem crosses on their walls, usually displayed alongside their many JP2 pictures, crucifixes and black madonna's.

Also not to say that many of these Polish Catholics weren't also massive racists, but I'm pretty sure the Jerusalem crosses they displayed were a Catholic thing for them rather than a white supremacy thing.

(Edited for identifying information)

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horse_battery_staple 8 points 2 years ago

It's been coopted by the far right for a while now. Pete is not a Polish Babushka, the symbol has a different meaning to him.

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/

Edit:

there’s specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross here. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/... The Adl link is to look up other terms in general

White supremacist anti-Muslim narratives generally refer to Islam as an invading force that isn't just incompatible with Western society, but is also an active threat to Western society and cultural norms. In this context, white supremacists have used Crusader-themed imagery and rhetoric, like the Jerusalem Cross, the Knights Templar and "Deus Vult," as dog whistles to promote anti-Muslim hate

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Hoimo 2 points 2 years ago

There's a version of the Jerusalem Cross used by Episcopalian service members, according to Wikipedia. I'm not American, so I don't know the exact connotation of the symbol on that side of the pond, it could still be harmless. As an outsider, I'd associate it with the crusades (or the country of Georgia), but it doesn't have to be intended that way.

Now, the fact that he's a Trump appointee automatically makes him suspect, of course, but it's less like "He has a Nazi tattoo, therefore Trump appointed a Nazi" and more "Trump appoints Nazis, therefore the tattoo is a Nazi tattoo".

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nelly_man 0 points 2 years ago

Were you linking to a specific entry in their database? The link took me to the database as a whole, and I couldn't find any mention of the Jerusalem Cross when searching it.

When searching elsewhere, I see similar results as the above commenter. There's mostly discussions of its Christian meaning and some reddit posts that argue that it's a symbol of hate due to its association with the crusades.

However, there was a different post from somebody who got a tattoo of it and was worried when people said it gave them Nazi-ish vibes. The commenters on the post assured him that it's not a white supremacist symbol, but it was probably reminding people of the Iron Cross.

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anachronist 1 point 2 years ago

I grew up Catholic and my family was mostly Irish and Italians but I never saw that particular cross. Even Polish people (lots of them here in Chicago) I knew tended to have things like the black madonna or our lady of sorrows.

Also this guy isn't Polish.

I think the appeal to the far right would be its similarity to the iron cross. When I saw it on the guy, having never seen the Jerusalem cross before despite my catholic background, I honestly thought it was an iron cross.

It's a bit like people in Europe who wear the confederate flag and when asked claim that they just really like that corny US sitcom from the 70s with an orange car in it. Of course that's just a plausible cover since overt European fascist or nazi symbols are illegal, so instead they fly the battle flag of a racist slave-state from a different continent.

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Aksamit 1 point 2 years ago

Never said the guy was Polish, just that plenty of the elder religious folk I grew up around had that cross in their houses and that it likely had a religious meaning, before being co-opted by the far right, that may still be in use with some groups.

Also I'm in the UK and my Polish family here arrived in the 60's, so likely a different cultural group to many of the Polish Catholic's in the US who, from what I've gathered, emigrated much earlier.

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danc4498 -3 points 2 years ago

Yes, and any cross is a symbol of white nationalism because they were used by the KKK.

Not every symbol used by racist people is a symbol of racism. You gave the one most extreme example where a symbol was co-opted and can never mean anything else again.

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kameecoding 7 points 2 years ago

And you gave an example of why dog whistles work, plausible deniability.

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danc4498 0 points 2 years ago

Honest question, are there examples of this symbol being used by white nationalists regularly?

I’ve done some light googling and looked at more photos of white nationalist rallies than I ever want and I didn’t see this symbol in any of them. Even adl.org doesn’t mention this cross.

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Auli 1 point 2 years ago

Like the universal ok symbol. My good that was so stupid.

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danc4498 -1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. I had a guy I worked with that used examples of liberals complaining about the OK symbol as an excuse to ignore every awful thing Trump did and said during his 2016 election and while he was in office.

I’m not saying he wouldn’t have done that anyway, but we make it so easy for them to ignore us!

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52fighters 9 points 2 years ago

I am looking at other photos. I can also see "Ne Desit Virtus" (Let Valor Not Fail) with a sword. That's a symbol from the 187th Infantry Regiment. I also see the Chi Rho symbol, a Greek symbol for the name of Christ. Another tattoo is "MDCCLXXV" for 1775. Above that tattoo is an American Flag with a gun superimposed on it. I am not sure if these mean a recalling of the US War for Independence. The gun looks modern but could also serve as a bridge to the modern military of the US. On his other arm is "Deus Vult."

Broadly speaking, these tattoos suggest both military service and Christian identity.

Not found are any symbols I've seen identified with White Nationalism. No Valknot, swastika, black sun, 88 symbol, Confederate symbolism, etc.

Edit: The photo I was looking at is here: [https://i.imgur.com/kkroDES.png].

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Adm_Drummer 12 points 2 years ago

Deus Vult has indeed been co-opted by white supremacists along with a lot of crusader/christian symbolism.

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whoisearth 16 points 2 years ago

Almost like its coded so as to not blatantly say "I'm a white supremist" while also clearly signaling to people he is.

Are people just learning about plausible deniability?

Now that said, sure this could be a nothing burger, but when coupled to be right wing....

What's that saying?

You find me a nazi I can sure bet they'd be voting Republican.

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AntiOutsideAktion -2 points 2 years ago

Are people just learning about plausible deniability?

No the people in this thread are deliberate nazis trying to normalize that shit and your instances are such trash that they don't get moderated

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pyre 2 points 2 years ago

as if the crusaders were egalitarian

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danc4498 6 points 2 years ago

Dude is definitely a nut, but when we start throwing around terms like “white nationalists” for things that are absolutely not white nationalism, it dilutes the impact of claims about people who legitimately are white nationalists.

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I_Has_A_Hat -2 points 2 years ago

Political echo chambers have been in "Two Minutes of Hate" mode for years now. Throw every insult imaginable at your opponents. Even if it doesn't fit, even if it doesn't make sense. Just hold someone up and go "This is the bad man! Boo the bad man! Boooooo!" Anyone who cares ask "Why are we booing? And what makes this man bad?" Is immediately silenced by others because it's just so obvious he's a bad man. Look at all the other people booing him!

Meanwhile his face is digitally changed to a bleating goat, and the people cheer.

This happens on both right and left wing echo chambers.

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Miaou 5 points 2 years ago

Only USAians will see somebody with a flag tattoo and not think "this is fascist scum".

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danc4498 -4 points 2 years ago

Hi, I’ve never heard of adl.org, but I searched for Jerusalem cross on this site and found no results. Does that work as confirmation that this symbol is NOT a white nationalist symbol?

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horse_battery_staple 6 points 2 years ago

It's been coopted by the far right for a while now. Pete is not a Polish Babushka, the symbol has a different meaning to him, here’s specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross amd deus vult here. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/...

White supremacist anti-Muslim narratives generally refer to Islam as an invading force that isn't just incompatible with Western society, but is also an active threat to Western society and cultural norms. In this context, white supremacists have used Crusader-themed imagery and rhetoric, like the Jerusalem Cross, the Knights Templar and "Deus Vult," as dog whistles to promote anti-Muslim hate

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prettybunnys 3 points 2 years ago

It’s also used fairly prominently in the episcopal church in the USA, I grew up with that symbol and it had nothing to do with white nationalism / christofascism

Deus Vult added to his collection does add some awfully strong attribution to them being the dog whistles I bet they are.

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DragonTypeWyvern -11 points 2 years ago

And Biden's senile ass is still going to hand over power.

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GiantChickDicks 8 points 2 years ago

As opposed to? Doing the thing we screamed about MAGAs doing? People expect a lot out of Biden here, which is funny since so many people couldn't get off their asses and vote to prevent this from happening.

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Madison420 5 points 2 years ago

Use the office to make convicted felons (in relation to fraud or truthfulness) unable to hold higher office which is the law for most state governments but quizzically not the highest office.

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derGottesknecht 4 points 2 years ago

If I understood the supreme Court right, one legal option would be to kill them all officially... /s

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DragonTypeWyvern 4 points 2 years ago

No s.

That was the ruling, and I'm going to laugh my ass off when it gets used against the "high roaders"

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figaro 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly. America has done this to itself. We absolutely deserve whatever happens at this point.

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Jyek 5 points 2 years ago

That's not how any of this works.

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DragonTypeWyvern 0 points 2 years ago

Lol, liberals.

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The4th -38 points 2 years ago
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Adderbox76 34 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry what?!

That level of disingenuous knot tying is utterly baffling.

You know damn well that after WW2, all of those symbols ostensibly became inextricably linked with the Nazi party. Its the same reason a Swastika no longer automatically conjures images of Hindu and Buddhist peace.

Pretending that its possible that this idiot is somehow repping his pride of Wilhelm II and the glorious Prussian history is so unbelievably intellectually dishonest that it actually somehow manages to be even worse than being flat out racist.

At least Racists are honest. This...whatever this idiotic attempt at obsfucation was that you just shat into our lives is just pedantry that even racists would mock you for.

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Hadriscus 5 points 2 years ago

good god thank you I couldn't find the words

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The4th -27 points 2 years ago
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Adderbox76 19 points 2 years ago

I'm not calling everyone a Nazi.

I'm saying the guy with tattoos on his chest of symbols that have been associated with Nazis since the late 1930s is 99.99999% likely to be a Nazi and not a long lost member of Prussian nobility.

Pretending that because there's a .0000001% chance that his tattoos aren't Nazi inspired just because Prussia existed, is purposeful pedantry, which IMO is worse than outright racism.

See, you're not stupid. You're the worst kind of person. Your not smart. But your not stupid. You have just enough trivia in your head that you can muddle any argument with pedantry just enough that stupid people might read it and think... "hmmm....maybe it WAS a Prussia tattoo." even though you know damn well that a .0000001% chance is as good as 0%. It's dishonest, it's immoral, and it takes advantage of people who don't have the critical thinking skills to call out your bullshit. You are worse than racists because at least racists are honest about it.

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The4th -14 points 2 years ago
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demonmittenhands 6 points 2 years ago

FYI you can call a Nazi a Nazi. It's fine.

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frayedpickles 5 points 2 years ago

They already are the thing I hate. They tattooed symbols of murder and genocide on themselves.

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todd_bonzalez 4 points 2 years ago
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magamus 7 points 2 years ago

I think it’s more the point of do you believe that this person who has the tattoos has them because of the possible history before the Nazis and what it represented or because the Nazis co-opted the symbol for their purposes and he’s representing their ideals.

While it may be true that there are other reasons to also criticize, I believe those who think the latter would take it seriously. I have more trouble believing someone in this day and age has the tattoos to represent the historical aspect of the symbol.

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The4th -11 points 2 years ago
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TunaCowboy 6 points 2 years ago

The 4th what bud?

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todd_bonzalez 6 points 2 years ago
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