Trump's transition team turns to Project 2025 after disavowing it during the campaign

2 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

Transition officials have used Project 2025's extensive personnel database for potential candidates to hire for the incoming administration, a person familiar the plans said.

Summary

Despite disavowing Project 2025 during the campaign, Trump’s transition team is now using its extensive database of vetted conservative candidates to help fill over 4,000 government positions.

Project 2025, criticized for its extreme policy proposals and links to Trump’s first administration, created a “conservative LinkedIn” of 10,000 candidates.

While some contributors are being tapped for key roles, others face rejection due to controversial stances.

Democrats, who used Project 2025 in campaign attacks, are warning of its influence on Trump’s agenda and planning policy responses.

ExtremeDullard 207 points 2 years ago

You know who else disavowed what he wrote publicly to pacify his critics? Hitler with Mein Kampf. He kept repeating he wrote Mein Kampf in 1925 but had changed his views since. Guess what: he hadn't.

And surprise-surprise, the Orange Utan hasn't either. It's almost like we didn't see that one coming from a mile away...

And don't think for a second that I'm the only one to see the striking parallel.

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FireRetardant 105 points 2 years ago

I have a friend who says things like "oh that project isn't real its just a think tank".

Nobody writes a document that long and detailed just as a little thought experiment. It was obviously a manifesto and I don't know how so many people against project 2025 still voted for the party supporting it.

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7U5K3N 69 points 2 years ago

It had a 4!!!!! Percent approval rating. 4!!

And yet.. he won the popular vote.

I'm an American in a poor red state. I really hope the FO portion of fafo hits us SUPER hard.

It'll suck for me.. but man it'll be great to be that smug asshole reminding folks who they voted for.

In my county 23% voted Harris. So odds are good that dude in the lifted Ford is a trumpkin.

Fucking idiots....

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Atom 13 points 2 years ago

Same, red county-district-state. I would hope the same but they won't attribute it to their dear* leader. His Tariffs and GOP policy will fuck them too, but fox and podcasts will tell them it's the deep state Democrats keeping them down. They all were doing the "this is Biden's America" posts in 2020. GOP can do no wrong in their eyes. Used to be child rape was a deal breaker but even that is A-OK now, as long as the Democrats lose.

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rayyy 10 points 2 years ago path: 0 13594717 13595079 13595520 13602569, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 2
7U5K3N 3 points 2 years ago

Oh shit I hadn't seen that.

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freeze 2 points 2 years ago

Conspiracy theorist nonsense debunked by snopes.

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AA5B 3 points 2 years ago

Yet she was part of the administration that got you that huge infrastructure project and new factory incentives the donvict will take credit for

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rayyy 1 point 2 years ago
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SwampYankee 17 points 2 years ago

All the policy goals are the same as what's been in the Republican platform for decades. The only thing Project 2025 adds is how to get there. Is Trump a useful idiot? Maybe, although it would be silly to operate under that assumption rather than believing he's just as committed as the rest of them. Either way, the idea having seeped into the popular consciousness of the American voter that Project 2025 is something other than a serious plan for a Republican administration is an astonishing bit of doublethink. Orwell spins like a turbine in his grave.

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TachyonTele 6 points 2 years ago

Actually getting the policys in place is the hardest part of policy making. Now they'll be able to do that.

We're going to need to hook Orwell up to the grid. He's going to produce a lot of spins in the next few years.

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whydudothatdrcrane 1 point 2 years ago

I thought it was considered unique in detailing how to get rid of checks and balances, ergo terminate democracy.

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TrickDacy 13 points 2 years ago

I don't know how so many people against project 2025 still voted for the party supporting it.

Can you be truly against something if you cannot even be bothered to have the slightest idea what it is?

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FlyingSquid 36 points 2 years ago

Trump has never read Project 2025. Or Mein Kampf. Or The Art of the Deal. Or any book in his life.

He might have listened to the audiobook version of Mein Kampf, but probably not in the original German like his dad would have.

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Mirshe 65 points 2 years ago

Actually, his wife and his friends said they've only seen him actively read one book, which is a book of Hitler's speeches.

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FlyingSquid 26 points 2 years ago

That's just what he wanted them to think. Inside the book, he had hidden a single Bazooka Joe comic that took him 5 years to read. And then he didn't get the joke so he had to take another 5 years to read it. And he still didn't get the joke so... basically he's going to put anyone with a Bazooka Joe comic in their possession in front of a firing squad when he gets in charge.

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crank0271 3 points 2 years ago

Okay but bazooka firing squad sounds at least interesting

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Infomatics90 3 points 2 years ago

his dad read it because he was a fucking Nazi.

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FlyingSquid 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly what I was getting at.

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Infomatics90 2 points 2 years ago

holy shit. well that explains quite alot

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Quill7513 135 points 2 years ago

I've run into some trump voters who aren't worried about project 2025 because "i'm going to vote against it in 2025" and it's like… goddammit, why did the republicans get so good at propaganda so fast (hint: Russian money)

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P1nkman 62 points 2 years ago

What? The mental gymnastics on these people...

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prole 91 points 2 years ago

No mental gymnastics are needed when they straight up don't know how their own government works.

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Quill7513 38 points 2 years ago

yeah. these are people who think the new president takes office election night, think the federal government does ballot measures, and haven't ever really voted in a national election that wasn't for president. it's not mental gymnastics to not know things

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Einstein 28 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure 50 years ago, doctors would be calling it mental retardation.

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DarkFuture 78 points 2 years ago

Hope everyone is ready to suffer.

I'd say blame it on conservatives. But you can also blame it on the absolute idiots that voted 3rd party, were single issue voters, or abstained from voting. They're just as much to blame and just as stupid as Trump supporters.

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AngryRobot 37 points 2 years ago

I hate trump voters, but I hate the people who know how awful he is but stayed home even more.

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WrenFeathers 11 points 2 years ago
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Awesomo85 -16 points 2 years ago

I hate self important douche bags who are so used to basking in their own fart clouds that they can't see how sanctimonious they are and can't come to terms with the fact that maybe their fart sniffing ideology doesn't work for all 300M other people in this country.

Especially when they turn around and call their political opposites sanctimonious fart sniffing hypocrites without acknowledging their own hypocrisy. It annoys me.

See the nation is healing already!

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ripcord 30 points 2 years ago

But genocide joe or some shit

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DarkFuture 18 points 2 years ago

"Genocide Joe" passed more meaningful legislation for average Americans then most presidents. But the conservative propaganda machine won and made him seem like the devil incarnate because stupid Americans can't discern fact from fiction.

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ChronosTriggerWarning 9 points 2 years ago

stupid Americans can’t discern fact from fiction.

It's almost as if all the attacks on education over the last 4-7 decades are bearing fruit.

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WhyFlip -14 points 2 years ago
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ripcord 8 points 2 years ago

Oh you're one of those idiots, got it.

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Tinidril 9 points 2 years ago

That's not what happened. The slice of America that turned hard against Harris was uninformed voters, not engaged leftists. That is absolutely clear in the exit polls. There was also a massive spike in google searches about whether Biden was still in the race ON ELECTION DAY. If you just have to blame someone other than Biden and Harris, that's who you must blame. All the evidence says your terminally online theory is flat wrong.

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witten 5 points 2 years ago
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freddydunningkruger -1 points 2 years ago

Your reading comprehension skills suck. The original commenter mentioned TWO types of idiots. 1) the morons that voted third party, and 2) the defectives that ABSTAINED from voting.

I guess your brain only came equipped with 8GB of RAM, because you acted like OP gave you some clever GOTCHA moment by only mentioning 3rd party voters, while you completely disregarded OP including group #2 as well.

In the future, I recommend you avoid complex tasks, like, say, chewing gum and walking at the same time.

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freeze 6 points 2 years ago

Correction, they mentioned 3 types of idiots not 2.

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Tinidril 3 points 2 years ago

Present some evidence or shut the fuck up already.

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DancingBear -9 points 2 years ago
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LifeInMultipleChoice 7 points 2 years ago

"their candidate"

Goes on to describe themselves and project it. Classy

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freddydunningkruger 2 points 2 years ago

Oh, they're not angry. They're just dismayed to learn how many C.H.U.D.s there are in this country who had no problems voting for a narcicistic, low IQ rapist after watching him fuck up for 4 years, and after attempting a coup. Like, seriously, out of all the Republicans to choose from, ya'll decided Trump was your best and brightest TWICE. It's like watching the fall of the Roman Empire in real-time.

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Tinidril 3 points 2 years ago

You know what's just as productive as blaming voters? Masturbating into a Kleenex. Unless you have a plan to nominate better voters next cycle (yes, if there is one) then your attention is better spent on how we fix a Democratic party that's so pathetic that it lost to Trump twice.

If Rahm Emanuel or another establishment clone is the next DNC chair, get ready to see this happen again. That's where the focus belongs for anyone who wants to fix this shit.

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DancingBear 1 point 2 years ago
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houstoneulers -9 points 2 years ago

Yea that'll get those ppl to vote with you lmao

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pyre 2 points 2 years ago

I appreciate the optimism about being able to vote in the future

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houstoneulers 1 point 2 years ago

Even if you can't, I'll still be able to.

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pyre 1 point 2 years ago

I was talking about "those ppl" you mentioned. nothing to do with me.

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leftytighty 75 points 2 years ago
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zalgotext 23 points 2 years ago

How does one go about looking for movements to join? Honestly asking. I'm assuming I can't just type "labor movements near me" into Google maps, but I honestly don't know where to start looking for trustworthy resources on this stuff.

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leftytighty 19 points 2 years ago
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zalgotext 8 points 2 years ago

Nice, thanks for the advice! That's super helpful for me, and hopefully anyone else that comes across this thread

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whydudothatdrcrane -1 points 2 years ago

don’t know where to start looking

Ergo first order of business, construct such list.

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DarkFuture 8 points 2 years ago

So what are you going to do about it America?

Nothing. We're fucking pathetic.

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FireRetardant 8 points 2 years ago

A big part of the problem is those most impacted by these policies cannot afford to take time off to strike or protest. And I'm not sure if it's as bad in America as it is in Canada but if there was a general labour strike, our Canadian politicians would just solve it by importing cheap labour.

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leftytighty 18 points 2 years ago
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FireRetardant 5 points 2 years ago

Either way, most people aren't willing to risk being fired/missing pay/being arrested because they need that money to pay rent and feed themselves. You can be as organized as you want, the system has pushed most of us to being wage slaves that have very little say in the matter. Even if importing labour isn't immediate, i wouldn't put it past governments to still let the economy collapse while they import labour just to prove a point about who makes the rules and has the control.

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Cracks_InTheWalls 6 points 2 years ago

What role can systems of mutual aid among the organized play to address the risk and encourage continued participation (e.g. voluntary distribution of food to those who need it, temporary housing/boarding of siblings of the cause by those with room, etc.)?

I 100% don't have an answer, this is just what comes to mind first when I read this.

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leftytighty 3 points 2 years ago
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Nuke_the_whales 4 points 2 years ago

Americans keep bitching about wanting a better candidate but nobody steps up or gets off the couch.

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CosmicTurtle0 16 points 2 years ago

There are lot of problems. The biggest is funding.

Most politicians come from money. Not all, but a good number. This, oddly enough, can make them a bit more independent since they don't have special interests demanding their time to get their money. But depending on their motives for running, this can also make them very susceptible to corruption to make their money back.

If you don't have money, you have to raise it. You can either do this by meeting with special interests (oil, pharma, etc.) and be their lapdog or you can solicit money from the public. Both have their pros and cons in terms of getting elected, staying elected, and making sure you can do the work you set out to do.

Let's assume you have money and it's untainted.

The second biggest problem you have is name recognition. If you are a nobody, no one is going to elect you. You have to earn name recognition by either winning several smaller elections, by being active in the community, or by being famous. Usually if your rich, you have name recognition so you can usually skip this step. But if you're not, and you're raising money the old fashion way, you need to get your name out there. You remember Joe Exotic? You know him because he ran a ridiculous campaign.

Let's assume that you're active in the community and you have pretty good name recognition.

The hardest hurdle is going to be that you have almost half of your electorate actively rooting against you.

IMO, the reason why you don't see many young people in politics, even at the local level, is because all three of these steps seem so insurmountable. I looked into it. I never formed a committee or anything but the amount of money alone you have to raise is crazy.

You need a thick skin and you need to be willing to compromise, either your morals or your values, often both.

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AA5B 6 points 2 years ago

A better candidate did run. Any candidate who ran was better

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RememberTheApollo_ 62 points 2 years ago

And why should anyone be surprised?

  1. Rumor of shitty thing republicans are planning

  2. Republicans deny shitty thing is being planned, that was just (insert republican official here) brought up, claim it’s just the official on their own.

  3. Months later republicans are trying to officially enact shitty thing they denied planning.

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ZombiFrancis 52 points 2 years ago

Project 2025 is and has always been a right wing conservative wishlist the GOP has maintained since forever.

The idea the conservatives were ever disavowing conservatism was laughably stupid.

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whydudothatdrcrane 7 points 2 years ago

Project 2025 was considered unique in detailing how to get rid of checks and balances, ergo terminate democracy.

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ZombiFrancis 10 points 2 years ago

Heritage Foundation has been working on that since the 1970s, but yeah, it is the most updated and calibrated plan of action.

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Fester 49 points 2 years ago

That’s always been his plan. And it’ll happen because these Heritage Foundation ghouls will run the government off-camera while Trump and his reality TV cabinet distract us with fights and absurd sound bites in between his golf rounds.

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Sam_Bass 48 points 2 years ago

Told and told and told by everyone with half a brain but as usual the nitwits wanna listen to the "entertainer"

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CileTheSane 25 points 2 years ago

They knew. They wanted this. The denying just gave them "plausible" deniability.

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Sam_Bass 6 points 2 years ago

And that's what makes them nitwits

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AngryRobot 8 points 2 years ago

That's what makes them traitors.

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Sam_Bass 5 points 2 years ago

Yes indeedy, speedy

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NeoToasty 48 points 2 years ago
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Grass 15 points 2 years ago

When I was a kid it was a common belief that americans were just way more stupid than the rest of the world. Turns out it was worse, but that we were also really stupid for copying a lot of their dumb shit.

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ChronosTriggerWarning 1 point 2 years ago

"Think of how stupid the average American is. Then, realize half the country is stupider that that."

-St. George Carlin

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whydudothatdrcrane 1 point 2 years ago

Dude, the rest of the world elects Hitler wannabe's like all the time.

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Mirshe 9 points 2 years ago

Fox and Friends didn't report on it.

When Trump and his team were effectively forced to respond by a deluge of other outlets covering it, Trump literally just got in an interview and said "I never read it". He didn't say he didn't know about it, he didn't say he didn't agree with it, just "I never read it, I don't know what it's about" - which I believe because the guy barely reads anything according to all the sources I can find.

Remember that really ever since 2000, a LARGE amount of voters have checked out entirely. They get their politics third-hand from people who watched Fox or read an article and many don't even do that, just going into a polling station and checking whoever's name they've heard more in the last month or two. They're not even low-information, they're zero-information, and some, like my mother, are even negative-information, digesting objectively untrue facts and regurgitating them onto their personal political canvas (mom got deep into the Qanon panic because "parts of it felt true").

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AngryRobot 3 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure he's illiterate.

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1ns1p1d 6 points 2 years ago

The America of Idiocracy was waaaay better than what we're going to get. I remember joking about how we were heading that way. Little did I know how quickly it would be so much worse.

Im in my 50's. I feel so bad for my parents. So many good things have happened in their lifetimes, only for their twilight years to turn into non-stop devastating disappointment and the relentless reversal of so much progress.

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Infomatics90 2 points 2 years ago

no this is not idiocracy.

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ChronosTriggerWarning 1 point 2 years ago

"Thank you for choosing Carl's Jr. You are a bad citizen. Your government is now the possession of Carl's Jr."

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robocall 48 points 2 years ago

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sirico 31 points 2 years ago

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Alexstarfire 1 point 2 years ago

Just the right amount of jpeg.

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RandomVideos 29 points 2 years ago

Trump's TRANSition team

Trump was the one turning kids trans in schools all along

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cultsuperstar 5 points 2 years ago

Headline next year: Trump Administration Bans the Word 'Trans'

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WaxedWookie 4 points 2 years ago

He was certainly the one fucking them...

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FlyingSquid 25 points 2 years ago

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mombutt_long_and_low 22 points 2 years ago

Nobody should be surprised by this.

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MyOpinion 19 points 2 years ago

This can’t be happening he told me otherwise. /s

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hOrni 18 points 2 years ago

In other news, water is wet.

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Ulrich_the_Old 17 points 2 years ago

This is exactly what they said they would not do... trump stated several times that he would not go forward with this project that he had never ever in a million years heard of.... You people were played like a cheap russian fiddle.

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CoffeePorter 3 points 2 years ago
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luciferofastora 4 points 2 years ago

48% of those who voted?

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iAmTheTot 14 points 2 years ago

I'm shocked, SHOCKED! ... Well, not that shocked.

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Mr_Dr_Oink 13 points 2 years ago

Oh so its ok for trump to transition?!?! I see how it is....

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bitjunkie 9 points 2 years ago

When you're a rich prick, they let you do it

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soul 2 points 2 years ago

He certainly grabbed this country I live in right in the pussy.

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muculent 11 points 2 years ago

Lying liar lies again. We're all horribly shocked.

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emmy67 1 point 2 years ago

Honestly, a lot of centrist are. They also don't expect any of it to actually be implemented. Cue those leopards

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Apathy 9 points 2 years ago

When an individual tells you they are crazy, It’s best to trust them on that judgement

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gedaliyah 7 points 2 years ago

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RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 2 years ago

They never came up with any other plan, so they're just going with what they've got. They haven't been able to govern for more than a decade. They're so fractured and have done nothing more than shit talk and blame, so no nobody is willing to try to get republicans to form a group capable of planning anything other than who to point fingers at.

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DarkFuture 7 points 2 years ago

They never came up with any other plan

The guy said he had concepts of plans in a debate designed as a platform for candidates to let America know what their plans are.

And then we elected him anyways.

Americans are fucking stupid.

Take politics and politicians out of the equation and you're still left with stupid fucking Americans. And THAT is why we're doomed in the long run.

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WhyFlip 5 points 2 years ago
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freddydunningkruger 2 points 2 years ago

If you were one of those people who believed otherwise, you were probably one of those idiots taking every opportunity to share your fake concerns about genocide, and your intent to vote 3rd Party or not at all. Golf clap.

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El_guapazo 2 points 2 years ago

Did NBC do any of the sane washing that helped trump get elected?

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eldavi 1 point 2 years ago

yet the biden administration still won't pass the equal rights amendment that would help protect us from project 2025.

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burak29 1 point 2 years ago
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reddit_sux 1 point 2 years ago

Why should Palestinians have all the genocidal fun?

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spacecadet -10 points 2 years ago

Most of America doesn’t give a shit about California women’s right to an abortion, or that transgenders should be allowed in whatever bathroom they want, or that Trump is “weird”. They care about “am I better off now than I was last year?” And the answer for a lot of people is “no”. They look at the democrats brag about unemployment rates being low and that is inflation is brought under control, while most of America is still paying $5 for eggs that used to be $2. Everyday middle Americans can no longer afford simple things and their kids are worse off than they are. I know this problem wasn’t wholly created by Biden, Harris, or even Trump, but Americans felt like Harris didn’t care about their plight and that her upper class California woman self was really unrelatable. Then Harris spends a lot time trying to get celebrity endorsements and she is so out of touch that she didn’t realize celebrity endorsements actually lose you votes. People don’t care what Beyonce and Cardi B think about politics, well not the smart people or the people’s vote you actually need.

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AA5B 7 points 2 years ago

Who pays $5 for eggs? Ok, the organic ones at Whole Foods near me are, but I live in a high cost of living area.

I don’t believe these red staters do any of;

  • live in a higher cost of living area
  • go to Whole Foods
  • buy organic eggs from Whole Foods
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pivot_root 6 points 2 years ago

transgenders

Not much of an LGBT ally, I presume? It's pretty dehumanizing to call transgender individuals that, as though they're not people.

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leftytighty 1 point 2 years ago
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leftytighty 6 points 2 years ago
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31337 1 point 2 years ago

Idk about this. I think most people care if their partners, sisters, daughters, and themselves can get healthcare that may involve an abortion. I think a lot of people do vote on vibes, and being "weird" is damaging. The Republicans are the party that won't stop talking about transgender people; I don't recall Harris mentioning transgendered people once.

I kinda agree with most of your other points. Economic well-being is what people vote on first and foremost. Dunno if celebrity endorsements actually hurt though. A thing to note is that, barring a tech advancement, recession, or depression, prices don't generally decrease. I.e. wages (and government assistance) needs to rise at about the same rate as inflation (preferably more than).

Harris lost because she was seen as not going to change much of anything from Biden. She even conceded to false narratives of the right (such as immigration), instead of providing an alternative narrative that could inspire people. The economic changes she ran on were uninspiring, and I'm not sure they would've helped most people (mostly people don't start small businesses, or even really have a desire to; not sure if downpayment assistance wouldn't just increased prices and fees).

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