Elon Musk says the Post Office and Amtrak should be privatized

2 years ago by MicroWave to c/politics

Speaking at a Morgan Stanley conference, Musk said the state of passenger rail in the US is "embarrassing."

Summary

Elon Musk called for privatizing Amtrak and the U.S. Postal Service, saying America should privatize “everything we possibly can.”

Speaking at a Morgan Stanley conference, he criticized U.S. passenger rail as “embarrassing” compared to other countries.

While Musk didn’t outline steps for privatization, he acknowledged it would require congressional approval.

His remarks align with Donald Trump, who recently suggested reviewing USPS privatization.

psyspoop 105 points 2 years ago

Alternatively, let's nationalize Starlink

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aviationeast 29 points 2 years ago

Eminent Domain SpaceXand give it to NASA. Pay him using the new StarLink coin at a price of $100k per coin at let the value go with the market rate just like the Trumpcoins did....

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torrentialgrain 4 points 2 years ago

I don’t think that will help much when the nation turns fascist though.

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WatDabney 55 points 2 years ago

It's worth noting that they're never talking about actual privatization, which is when a thing that was formerly a government service is turned over to private enterprise, but a grotesquely inefficient hybrid system in which the service is still funded by the government, and the only thing that changes is that rather than the budget being turned over to a government agency, it's turned over to whichever private contractor offers the best bribe and kickback package.

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tonytins 18 points 2 years ago

Prime example... Amtrak.

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Neverclear 10 points 2 years ago

Ah, the old SpaceX switcharoo

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pivot_root 46 points 2 years ago

Speaking at a Morgan Stanley conference, Elon Musk criticized U.S. passenger rail as “embarrassing” compared to other countries.

Elon Musk? The same Elon Musk who helped cancel a high-speed rail transit project by touting his quickly-abandoned, far-fetched sci-fi transit system?

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer 16 points 2 years ago

Other... socialist countries he means?

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WhatAmLemmy 9 points 2 years ago

It's known as the fascist superposition.

It's a wave function that only collapses into communist evil or capitalist freedom whenever either is beneficial to a fascist, personally.

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tiefling 35 points 2 years ago

Speaking at a Morgan Stanley conference, he criticized U.S. passenger rail as “embarrassing” compared to other countries.

Well we agree on one thing, we just disagree greatly on the reasoning...

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Octospider 15 points 2 years ago

Which is ironic because he deliberately sabotaged rail in California.

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phoenixz 33 points 2 years ago

The scammer who singlehandedly killed US high-speed rail with his impossible fantasy hyperloop bullshit that caused hundreds of idiots to invest billions of dollars into technology that any third grader could tell you was bullshit says that US rail is terrible?

Color me surprised

Don't get me wrong, it IS terrible, but he is part of the various reasons why it's terrible.

Wanna make the US better?

Look at Europe, for starters. Make walkable and cyclable cities that are designed for humans not for cars. Then have normal speed (< 200kph) trains on an hourly or even half hourly service between neighboring cities. Add High speed tracks between states with services every few hours and have busses for mid distance.

Then start reducing road width because you don't need 20 lanes anymore all of the sudden

Whatever you do, though, do NOT listen to what this scammer wants

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admin 1 point 2 years ago

Wanna make the US better?

Look at Europe, for starters. Make walkable and cyclable cities that are designed for humans not for cars. Then have normal speed (< 200kph) trains on an hourly or even half hourly service between neighboring cities.

I mean, for starters, there's approximately the same distance between Los Angeles and Phoenix, than between Frankfurt and Paris, the difference is the geographic variation, climate and other factors such as Arizona and California being separated entities even though they are in a federal union, that wouldn't make it worth it or work.

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phoenixz 2 points 2 years ago

I can easily travel from Frankfurt tonparis by train

Why wouldn't I be able to do the same from Los Angeles to Phoenix? There literally arejtbany reasons beyond political unwillingness

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PapaSkwat 30 points 2 years ago
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Viking_Hippie 28 points 2 years ago

he criticized U.S. passenger rail as “embarrassing” compared to other countries.

He's actually right about that but 100% wrong about why: US passenger rail is embarrassing due to

  • a pitiful lack of political will for public investment in it (in spite of the vast majority of the population being in favor),
  • billionaires like himself and others with competing interests spending ridiculous amounts of money lobbying against it
  • private and ridiculously under-regulated freight companies (such as Norfolk Southern of East Palestine catastrophe infamy) being allowed to privately own the tracks that tax funded public works projects built, and thus setting schedules and speeds that are not conducive to effective passenger transit.

In short, the Apartheid Nepo Nazi wants to pretend to fix it by doing more of what ruined it.

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Australis13 27 points 2 years ago

Rail (and public transport) should be publically owned. As someone who lives in Victoria, Australia, it is painfully obvious just how much damage the privatisation of our rail system in the 90s did. There was virtually no investment/expansion of the network for over two decades and it's now too late - we're stuck continually playing catch-up to the increasing infrastructure demands of our cities.

I'm not familiar with the ownership of Amtrak, but it should be fully government owned and operated. A vertically-integrated transport system was the most cost-effective approach for us and that lasted about a century before the more conservative of our two major parties sold it off.

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chilicheeselies 25 points 2 years ago

My understanding is that Amtrak is what happened when the private railroad operators were failing, and the govt needed to step in to stop the passenger railroad network from collapsing completely.

Its by and large not profitable. Air travel, for better or worse, eats its lunch.

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SnotFlickerman 8 points 2 years ago

For worse, it's definitely for worse for the environment.

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Feathercrown 2 points 2 years ago

Some passenger amtrak lines are profitable. Privatising it would likely just mean cutting the ones that aren't, to the detriment of the rail system.

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tonytins 23 points 2 years ago

I guess no one told him that Amtrak pretty much is privatized.

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wreckedcarzz 7 points 2 years ago

OT but your sona is cute :3

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tonytins 7 points 2 years ago

Thank you. ^^

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SoftestSapphic 23 points 2 years ago

Tesla and SpaceX should be Nationalized

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starchylemming 21 points 2 years ago

ever since germany privatised rail (and post) while remaining mayority shareholder it has become ultra shit.

quality and reliability has gone down extremely over the years. efforts to mitigate the damage done thanks to neglect probably cost much more than proper maintenence would have cost them. those efforts are paid for by the state ofc.

deutsche bahn is so unreliable, neighbouring states have to cope with them disrupting their own schedules. if anything its reliably unreliable

but you already have a shitty underfunded rail system, so not much change there. the post office on the other hand will be heavily noticeable

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NimdaQA 19 points 2 years ago

Personally, I think it would be better to keep Amtrak majority state owned and throw billions of dollars at it. In fact, why not send out a $3 trillion stimulus package to get some Jobs going?

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owatnext 14 points 2 years ago

I call for Elon Musk to bite me.

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Tolookah 9 points 2 years ago

He might, I hear he's not house trained.

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futatorius 14 points 2 years ago
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captainlezbian 11 points 2 years ago

We should seize his means of production instead

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Venus_Ziegenfalle 2 points 2 years ago

As well as his means of reproduction

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Threeme2189 2 points 2 years ago

Grab him by the pussy balls? Good idea.

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fiddlesticks 2 points 2 years ago

Preferably with a vice

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Venus_Ziegenfalle 2 points 2 years ago

My phone notification just read "fiddlesticks in politics: Preferably..." so there's that 😂

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Jumpingspiderman 11 points 2 years ago

Elon wants the USPO privatized. And I want Elon euthanized. What beautiful Symmetry.

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RizzRustbolt 10 points 2 years ago

And I say that Elon Musk should have all of his bones removed in alphabetical order.

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NoForwardslashS 8 points 2 years ago

I'd like to see Musk on a crowded train

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futatorius 6 points 2 years ago
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FuglyDuck 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah well I say, musk should be forced to run a camshow called “my little teapot”.

And I have just as much authority as he does, so I guess he’s doing the camshow now.

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Snowclone 5 points 2 years ago

Let me guess he's making a new conglomerate that will own all these once public services and resources. Perhaps he could call it ''XX Farban'''

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AnUnusualRelic 5 points 2 years ago

While Musk didn’t outline steps for privatization

Simple, just pull the rails and sell them one by one at an auction, what could go wrong?

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chrischryse 3 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, cuz things like privatized prisons have worked sooooooo well so far 🙄

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Floon 3 points 2 years ago

Maintaining a post office is the only specific service, aside from national defense, the federal government must provide mentioned in the Constitution.

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mrodri89 2 points 2 years ago
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