Elon Musk says he's shocked at the level of Tesla hate and vandalism happening: 'I've never done anything harmful'
a year ago by MicroWave to c/politics
Summary
Elon Musk condemned rising vandalism against Tesla, blaming the political left and suggesting a conspiracy against him.
He cited incidents of arson, gunfire, and property destruction at Tesla dealerships, linking them to protests against his work with DOGE.
Trump and the DOJ have labeled the attacks "domestic terrorism," vowing arrests.
Some Tesla owners are selling their vehicles or adding bumper stickers distancing themselves from Musk, who defended Tesla as a "peaceful company," saying "I've never done anything harmful."
Yep. Fuck this fucking fucker.
Though I think it is important to add that he has also illegally broken into many different government organizations without access or permission. Causing them to be unable to do their job serving the American public. He's hurt thousands if not millions of people already.
He’s a sociopath, and like a good sociopath, he’s trying to elicit empathy in others for personal gain. He’s even said empathy is a weakness of Western civilization that can be exploited, and that’s exactly what these crocodile tears are designed to do. He’s even has an army of PR people he normally would ignore if his Tesla stock wasn’t tanking.
Like three days ago no less
The whiplash...
*elicit (though the way he does it is definitely illicit)
Thanks.
He didn't steal Tesler. He was such an obscenely shitty person to have to deal with the founders literally sold out to not have to deal with him anymore.
From the guy who literally said "Hitler didn't harm anyone"
he said. "We've never done anything harmful."
He's personally seen to the loss of tens of thousands (hundreds now perhaps) of jobs has no signs of stopping, stopping nutritional aid to those that need it most, and has even made comments about going after Social Security which serves our societies most vulnerable. Elon, how on Earth are you so clueless to see that all this hate is directly from your actions.
I'd even argue people may not have cared for Tesla, but the fact that Musk directly benefits monetarily makes Tesla a target.
A perfect example: Musk also was partial creator of Paypal even though he sold his interest in it a long time ago and has no association with it now. While lots of folks don't like Paypal for a number of reasons, I don't hear one peep of people ditching paypal because Musk had a hand in its creation.
Dude literally harassed and tried to ruin the life of a guy who saved a bunch of trapped kids in a cave. Never did anything harmful my ass.
Elon, how on Earth are you so clueless to see that all this hate is directly from your actions.
Such is life when you are empathy free...
And, likely, a sociopath to boot.
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He's not clueless, he's using this as an opportunity to play the victim and paint "the left" as the real problem. It's all for Fox news viewers and the ignorant and it's going to work. These people are masters at propaganda and manipulation. It's disgusting how effective they've been
Sure it's going to work. The American right is a lost cause of lead-huffing morons. They'd open up wide if Musk said he was going to shit in their mouths and chugged a milkshake made of Taco Bell and Diablo sauce on the way to do it.
Listened to a bit of a recent Joe Rogan visit he had. He plays it like the attacks are coming from the deep state hidden in bureaucracy as if those programs had no positive impact on people's lives
The rich deserve daisies.
Homeless go home
The worst part is, he probably fucking believes that.
That's how out of touch he is
Can't remember where I heard it but someone posited this to me and it stuck: Nobody ever does anything they believe is wrong.
If you take that at face value then how you explain evil is that a person has justified to themselves that death, suffering, pain, and unhappiness are all balanced against what they believe is the right way things should be. I can't imagine being in a ecosystem of people where the things I believe start justifying the way these people behave. But, I'm not a billionaire. Or religious.
I feel like that quote is easily wrong. Hell, I've done things I know are wrong (on small, minor things, like leaving work 15 minutes early and not taking leave or calling in sick when I'm not, because fuck it).
Then again, I guess I don't think it's entirely wrong, either. Because yeah, there are lots of people who truly believe their unethical/immoral actions are in the right. But I also think those people are often victims of indoctrination and/or they are sociopaths.
No one is the bad guy in their own story.
Morality isn't black and white. Anything that happens has good and bad. Personally, I believe that many can't understand the balance of side effects with the greater good. It's something doctors literally have to balance every day. Every medication and treatment has side effects and risks. Even taking Tylenol. So they have to balance "this vaccine might cause x" with "but this will keep the kid alive and a kid with x is still better than a dead kid."
But I'm sure they could say the same about me. If Musk really believed their was fraud and waste in government. The pain and suffering of those he is firing and those who are being hurt by his policies are the side effects. In his mind, he thinks he's the good guy. He thinks what he is doing is the "right thing" from his perspective.
I would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't believe the government should efficient and without fraud and waste. But since it's literally filled with people who believe that, it's far more efficient than certain media portray it as.
In regards to you leaving work early or calling off, if your world view taking care of yourself is doing the right thing. And sometimes you need to "do something wrong" like leaving work early in order to do the right thing like taking care of yourself.
The government shouldn't be run as a business. That's a lie that's been told to us for far too long. How many people hate their jobs? Do people really want to hate being a citizen as well?
I firmly believe Government is a collective tool to take care of it's citizens. It's to protect them from individuals who want to hurt and take advantage of them. To protect them from foreign actors who want to influence and hurt them. To take care of their medical problems. To take care of their security, such as housing and food. To provide them with the collective infrastructure their daily lives need, like roads, water, electricity, trash services, and gas. To take care of their education. To create a fair playing field giving everyone an opportunity to achieve their dreams.
I don't believe that capitalism cannot be a part of that. But it cannot be unbridled and unregulated. Private businesses have literally no obligation or incentive to provide a service or good if they can get money without doing so. They have no incentive to provide it cheaply. Their only incentive to being efficient is so that the people at the top can make more.
If governments take that approach, the people at the top like the President are the ones who get more money. And we the citizens, the employees, are used and abused.
Paying taxes, in my opinion, should be a source of pride. You should be able to look around at the roads, ambulances, parks, playgrounds, hospitals, and schools and say "I did that." You should look at your neighbor smiling and say "hell yea, I helped them."
Will some people try and take advantage of a government like that? Yea, of course. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't help the 99% of those that need it to keep 1% of people defrauding us. We should identify ways people do, find ways to single them out and address them. And even if someone gets away with it, I believe that is worth it so the other 99% are taken care of.
Same. In fact I worry about how often I feel like I'm sometimes slacking at work, but generally my numbers look good. I warned my boss not to spoil me because I can fall into bad habits.
Clinically psychopathic. Sociopathy is the result.
The distinction is important because neurotypical people can be raised to behave in ways that are sociopathic, both directly and indirectly. Most of the ultra wealthy who are born into wealth for example explain away the harms their lives cause others. But they still feel and express empathy in many aspects of their lives
But Musk seems genuinely like he has no genuine empathy, and like he has no comprehension of how to be a moral actor in the world. Trump is the same.
Being reasonable intelligent and born into privilege in the world that rewards sociopathy through the market system... psychopaths seem to disproportionately find themselves in positions of power. It's perverse.
"I'm not bad. I just tell people to do bad things and they do it. Why are you mad at me?"
I know this guy is a bit autistic, but he can't be that dumb.
to clarify, one can absolutely determine themselves to have autism, but the reason most people go that route is because they can't afford or haven't got access to resources for an official diagnosis....
...of which he has plenty. he's not autistic; he's a sociopathic piece of shit who thinks branding himself as autistic will earn him sympathy points, like keeping a child wrapped around his shoulders will keep him from being luigi'd.
I mean I'm no expert and I'm not going to paint in as big of brushstrokes, but after being diagnosed myself and after reading Unmasking Autism I feel more comfortable in discerning who does and doesn't have it, and I don't think he has it. I think he's just lacking empathy.
There are just a ton of online tests now. Every time my wife and I take one, it says I’m definitely not on the spectrum but it tells my wife something along the lines of “you might want to get checked”. We don’t take that as a diagnosis though. I feel like this could possibly be another example of how we started seeing more left handed people in society after it was no longer stigmatized.
Yup he's one of those people. I have 2 kids on the ASD spectrum. The Internet is full of asshats who self diagnose with that and ADD (of which I and my 2 boys have been diagnosed).
Although I commend them on the positive aspects of getting to know yourself better and maybe you don't have the means to get a formal diagnosis, without it anything you spout is easy to dismiss.
Also to Elmo being autistic. I tell both my boys "Just because you have autism it doesn't entitle you to be an asshole". I wish Errol and his wife ingrained that in their kids but clearly they didn't and from what I see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I can believe that.
You don't get to be the richest man in the world without crushing those under you. Fucking liar.
Let alone destroying the majority of the us government
Holy shit, I actually laughed out loud at this. "Never done anything harmful", lmfao. Get the fuck outta here.
Narcissist talk
"I've never done anything harmful"
Haha, good one, Musk. Trolls gonna troll. Now fuck off back under your bridge, you nepo-baby scumbag.
"iVe nEver dOnE aNytHiNg hArMFuL"
If you dont consider hacking a government to pieces harmful.... Idk what to tell you. Even hacking a regime to pieces will hurt people. You can't move fast and break things with governments and people's lives.
fires thousands of people in violation of the law why do you hate me???
"What's that noise? Where did all these chickens come from..?!?"
A) Dig the name.
B) "The turkeys are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement!"
I specifically remember the bud light and trans controversy where they were boycotting bud light. Elon seemed to support that. Now that people are trading in their teslas and boycotting all of a sudden it’s not good.
Well yeah he isn't pro trans. It's moral consistency /s
Well, I guess that's still a step 'up' from his dad, with the 40 year age gap between him and his baby mamma/former step daughter, saying "Show me the rules that say I can't groom/fuck/marry my former step daughter. Show me the rules."
Homie looked at Greek mythology and took it as a guidebook. Total asshole, check. Shitty to your innumerable children with many different women, check.
Ever since I read his first wife's article I've disliked him. These days it's mild compared to everything else, but back when he was popular… also it's just such personal scumbag behavior
"i made me and my businesses political, and im shocked to find there are political ramifications of this!
"I made me and my businesses vaguely political in one direction then went all the way into the other direction very explicitly and I don't get why my former customers are pissed"
Which is more pathetic. The idea that he really thinks he is a good person or the idea that he can tell a lie like that and someone might believe him who isn't just as pathetic as him?
I can accept a cluster B freak like him might really think he has done nothing wrong. Someone with severe NPD cannot admit fault.
If that many people kiss your ass an dtell you it smells like roses down there, your ego might get out of hand.
Dude just cut lifesaving money for starving children a week ago.
I mean, forget the dismantling of the United States of America. Even without that, he sued into oblivion and made it untenable wherever possible to even get recompense from Tesla after the cars self-crashed or self-destructed. Musk is a walking, talking pile of shit harming everyone wherever he can. He made a person saving miners out to be a pedophile. He names his fucking kid an unpronounceable series of letters and numbers. This man is a fucking shouldabeenabort plaguing the whole world.
Then he’s fucking dumber than I thought. And I already thought he made rocks look fucking brilliant.
His existence is harmful. I feel that I need to defend myself against him at all times, since him just existing is akin to assault and battery.
Tesla, famous for using fairly mined lithium, not abusing migrants on work visas and encouraging unionization.
Elon Musk: "Hitler didn't kill millions of people."
I'm surprised that people didn't start hating on him earlier
Someone did a really good one of this with their faces, but now I can't find it.
Poor man meets rich man and they look at each other. Says the poor man, were I not poor, you'd not be rich!
- Berthold Brecht
Boycott them all.
Only stochastic terrorism. A nazi salute here and there. Spreading some racism and queerphobia every now and then. Opening the sewer gates to let in all the nazis on his social media platform. Exploiting some labour in the third world for his personal gain. Buying out politicians and the press in the detriment of the people.
Other than that, yeah, he hasn't done anything harmful.
I wonder if he actually beleives that
Ya know... I could see him thinking all his bad jokes, and online antics don't hurt anyone (not true) but the dude is decimating the federal workforce, he can't honestly believe he hasn't done anything to garner that hate. That's people's livelihoods.
You're a fucking neo-nazi who ruined the livelyhood of tens of thousands of people, many of them veterans who had served the county and became wounded in the process. All so you could set aside more of the US budget for kick backs to yourself and cronies.
I support the current thing.
Fuck you Muskcovite.
I'm shocked at the number of open Nazis in American "leadership". And the number of unelected "officials" tearing up our government from the inside.
I am less shocked and more resigned. Been tracking the progress of the Republican party over a decade now and watching them throw out euphemism after euphemism as they just aren't needed anymore. What the reaction of shock got us back then was "alarmist" since the Conservative playbook was so layered up in dogwhistles the average person thought it was tinfoil hat fodder.
The base was being groomed to accept this as an outcome and so they were slow boiled. It was that way for the Nazis too. Each terrible move wasn't quick it was the next horrible logical conclusion of their worldview of removing the "useless" aspects of humanity. They started first in government services and then with eugenics in mental health care while dismantling queer infrastructure in cities under the same eugenics line citing them as non-reproductive genetic dead ends. Then it turned to homelessness. Then as their policies created more "useless" classes of people in the form of minorities who could not legally work because of the laws they passed they turned to liquidation of those groups. Each step was followed by a pause to make the rhetoric more callus to build off the basic premise that as an able-bodied, regularly employed, sane, cishet, white, Christian / atheist that your resources were personally being stolen from you to feed the "undeserving".
How far back can you remember Republicans on their soap box about people being undeserving of assistance or support? About people being a waste of resources or campaigning to make those people easier to stigmatize? It shouldn't be surprising after over a decade that they've been dropping the mask.
Yeah, it's a conspiracy fuck-face. It's not like people are openly saying you suck, you're a leech, we're going to boycott the companies you're involved with and you're not wanted here. It's all a secret conspiracy. Pay no attention to the signs at very public protests.
you routinely go on social media and cheerlead for butchers committing genocide in ukraine and gaza, amongst other things.
terminal affluenza. doesnt understand that actions have consequences.
elon musk doenst have a functional penis.
Oh yes, so innocent. 🙄
Damn near everything he does is harmful.
Just another Conservative Victim™️.
So I've tried it a couple times now, with varying degrees of success, but I want to write a paper which takes a lifecycle approach to excess deaths by industry. My goal was to come up with a deaths/ billion estimate, to figure out a quantity of wealth after which we could decide, the person holding that wealth has effectively committed murder; then we buffer it by 10x to account for the fuzziness of the math, and we set that as the global maximum wealth cap.
Its practically impossible to believe that any industry results in 0 deaths per billion. However, when I did the first couple intial forrays into the research, its very dificult to pin down exaclty which is the source industry for a given death (for example, fossil fuels contribute massively to peoples deaths. But so does tobacco. Electric vehicles dont have tail pipe emissions, but might use fossil fuels in their construction, etc.. etc..)
Here is some summary output from that.
To compare the estimated premature deaths per billion dollars of profit between tech companies and a fossil fuel extraction company, we'll examine ExxonMobil as a representative example.
ExxonMobil's Annual Profit:
In 2024, ExxonMobil reported a net income of $33.7 billion.
investor.exxonmobil.com
Estimating Premature Deaths Due to Fossil Fuel Emissions:
A study by Vohra et al. (2021) estimated that fossil fuel combustion-related fine particulate matter (PM₂.₅) pollution was responsible for approximately 10.2 million premature deaths globally in 2012.
investor.exxonmobil.com
Calculating Premature Deaths per Billion Dollars of Profit:
To estimate the number of premature deaths attributable to ExxonMobil's operations per billion dollars of profit, we can use the following approach:
Global Fossil Fuel CO₂ Emissions: Approximately 35 billion metric tons annually.
ExxonMobil's Contribution: ExxonMobil's operations contribute to a portion of these emissions. While exact figures vary, estimates suggest that ExxonMobil's products account for about 1.3 billion metric tons of CO₂ emissions annually, representing approximately 3.7% of global fossil fuel CO₂ emissions.
Attributable Premature Deaths: Applying this percentage to the global premature deaths:
10,200,000 deaths×0.037≈377,400 deaths
10,200,000deaths×0.037≈377,400deaths
Deaths per Billion Dollars of Profit:
377,400 deaths33.7 billion USD≈11,200 deaths per billion USD
33.7billion USD377,400deaths≈11,200deaths per billion USD
Comparison with Tech Companies:
Previously, we estimated the number of premature deaths per billion dollars of profit for tech companies, assuming their energy consumption was entirely sourced from fossil fuels:
Samsung: Approximately 1,004 deaths per billion USD
Google (Alphabet): Approximately 153 deaths per billion USD
Microsoft: Approximately 209 deaths per billion USD
Conclusion:
If we attribute a proportional share of global premature deaths from fossil fuel emissions to ExxonMobil based on its contribution to global CO₂ emissions, the company is associated with approximately 11,200 premature deaths per billion dollars of profit. This figure is significantly higher than the estimates for tech companies, reflecting the direct role of fossil fuel extraction and production in contributing to air pollution and associated health impacts.
I don't know which is scarier: Musk lying about this, or actually being so self-unaware he really doesn't know what an enormous shitbag he is.
Not harmful for him or his fellow billionaires...
His intention wasn't that, but to just enrich himself and his fellows even more.
I'm honestly curious what kind of bubble this guy lives in. Who the fuck does he talk to on a regular basis?
It might be a lot of yes men, and people who feed his ego. His personality could be just to cut out anyone who has any level of differing opinions. Maybe he actually believes this shit he says. Who the fuck knows.
Here is a good glimpse of what he is surrounded by. Yes men who just laugh and agree with everything he says.
He intends to slash social security.
How can we respect their lifes if they don't respect ours?
Bitch, you ain't seen nothing yet.
I will literally throw a party when he dies.
I’ve never done anything wrong either, but it would be an absolute honour to choke the life out of the African fascist Nazi.
Fuck Musk! May he get the most painful incurable type of cancer there is on this planet.
I wish him nothing but sorrow, suffering and pain for him.
Pro tip:
Don't let narcissists become CEO, president, or anything with a remote inch of power. They'll rob you blind, let you die and then turn around and say "I was such a good guy, wasn't I? Now kiss my ring to show how you feel about me" and then be all screeching if you bite his finger off
Can't wait to see his reaction when robotaxis will get Wile E. Coyoted.
This guy just operates on pure doublespeak.
Eventually, people do notice.
Hate Musk all you want, leave the Tesla cars and stations alone. Anti fascists doing fascist things. The irony of it all is beyond amusing.
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This is coming from the guy who literately waved a fucking chainsaw up at CPAC.
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