Was a TV show you like ever ruined by the addition of a particular character to the point that you had to quit, or nearly quit?

2 years ago by Skavau to c/Television

Preacher 42 points 2 years ago

Scrappy Doo

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chase_what_matters 6 points 2 years ago

That yappy little fucker ruined things.

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coaxil 26 points 2 years ago

Pointless baby/pregnancy every time!

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bamboo 9 points 2 years ago

this, Dexter season 3 in a nutshell

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Drusas 9 points 2 years ago

Even worse in Bones. Devoutly childfree woman becomes pregnant and then goes completely baby crazy. How insulting.

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Snowclone 9 points 2 years ago

Well.. the executive producer wanted changes in the show. Particularly when she was actual pregnant and didn't want to hide it on set or screen. Gotta say though, I respected her for having typically body changes of a women going through pregnancies and not trying to blur it all out.

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bamboo 7 points 2 years ago

Did they at least point out that she had two sets of skeletons inside her? If not, missed opportunity for Bones

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easily3667 4 points 2 years ago
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zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 2 points 2 years ago

That's when I stopped watching the Office.

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DarthKaren 26 points 2 years ago

I know it isn't everyone's cup of tea. I can see every flaw people are saying as well. It's kind of my guilty pleasure.

2 1/2 Men: Multiple stages really.

Jake getting older and the addition of his friend.

Alan turned from a down on his luck guy to blundering comic relief. It has its funny moments, but there is a lot of cringe to be had in that change.

Replacement of Charlie with Ashton. I know the crazy behind it. That said, he makes it completely unwatchable. He doesn't carry nearly the same energy that Sheen does. The same dynamic doesn't exist between him and Alan, character wise.

They dialed Alan's blundering to 1000% after Charlie left.

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mutual_ayed 23 points 2 years ago
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bamboo 11 points 2 years ago

Wasn't the cool cop named Homer Simpson in the pilot, who then became an idiot laughing stock, causing people also named Homer Simpson to change their name to Max Power, after a hairdryer?

And that's the end of that case.

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toy_boat_toy_boat 8 points 2 years ago

uh-oh, spaghetti-o's

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Windex007 6 points 2 years ago

Also wasn't he originally written as being independently wealthy? I think that aspect was also lost in the character transition.

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mutual_ayed 9 points 2 years ago
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naeap 4 points 2 years ago

Upvoted for the much appreciated Simpsons reference

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Kolanaki 23 points 2 years ago

X-Files is kinda shit after Mulder is replaced by Dogget.

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Drusas 6 points 2 years ago

I have been a huge X-Files fan since the show was first released and I still have not seen the last few Dogget episodes because I just can't.

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Rappe 5 points 2 years ago

Dogget at least has some character development, doesn't hold a candle to Mulder though and definitely not saying he's a good character, but what really got me was the Agent NoPersonality, Monica Reyes. (I had to look up her name) She doesn't do anything, she doesn't have any kind of development, she doesn't add anything and she's just so boring and cookiecutter. No chemistry with Dogget either. I had actually forgotten she exists until I rewatched the entire series recently.

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Moobythegoldensock 3 points 2 years ago

The only good scene with her was Scully teaching her to run in heels.

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WhatThaFudge 4 points 2 years ago

X-Files was kinda shit LONG before Dogget comes into the picture.

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Snowclone 4 points 2 years ago

When it actually happened, I stopped watching it. Never seen bothered with an ep after that.

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QuantumSparkles 3 points 2 years ago

I think Doggett was in a handful of good Monster-of-The-Week episodes, but at that point the the series had gotten way too dumb that Mulder couldn’t have really made it much better. I think the series was way too in love with its own mythology, which was, frankly, pretty mediocre. The mytharc had become so diluted and silly that I just can’t watch most of those episodes anymore, even before it got bad

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kinkles 18 points 2 years ago

Goddamn Felicity in Arrow pissed me off. That show grew to have a lot of problems, but she was an especially terrible part of it.

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zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 7 points 2 years ago

That reminds me of all the Olibur memes.

Once I figured out the plot to every season I stopped watching.

A lies to B to protect them. Something happens to B because they didn't know the truth. Truth comes out anyway. Reconciliation. Rinse. Repeat.

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ChapulinColorado 1 point 2 years ago

Smallville did what?

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philycheeze 5 points 2 years ago

Yea, this for me as well. When season 3 started I felt the writing was off and kinda fell off for a while thinking I’d catch up later. Once I finally got around to it, the Arrow subreddit had completely morphed into a Daredevil sub as some kind of protest to just how bad it had gotten so I just never went back.

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slazer2au 3 points 2 years ago

Season 4 or something when it turned into Dawson Felicitys Creek with masks is when I jumped ship to the rest of the Arrowverse.

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RogueBanana 13 points 2 years ago

Near from death note. Man what a fucking downgrade.

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50MYT 12 points 2 years ago

I will get hate for this but hear me out.

Sex education.

First two seasons were epic.

The third season they introduced a fully rainbow school that absolutely ruined the show. It turned into a challenge to tick every box at the same time instead of being a good tv show that had those topics as part of the story

I have no issues with the content, but it didn't feel like it was part of the show, it felt like a big giant participation award instead.

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Semjaza 4 points 2 years ago

The cracks were there in the second.

The goal to string things out with more series just makes things worse. And characters archetypes don't mesh well with the development as the writers want it all to be archetypal.

Groff-Eric was the best thing about second series. It made main guy even harder to stand.

But then I always root for the second girl, so how else could I feel?

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50MYT 3 points 2 years ago

You spelt Adam and his dad wrong but all good haha

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Moobythegoldensock 12 points 2 years ago

Connor on Angel. His arc was pretty damn painful to sit though, and lasted nearly two seasons.

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harsh3466 3 points 2 years ago

Almost quit when Dawn was introduced into Buffy

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Moobythegoldensock 13 points 2 years ago

I’m going to disagree with Dawn. I feel like she was the one addition that really worked: the ballsy gaslighting that turned out to be a retcon and her being central to the plot actually sold her for me.

Plus I grew up on Pete and Pete so I was already a Michelle Trachtenberg fan.

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harsh3466 3 points 2 years ago

I should have clarified that in the end I think adding Dawn as a character was great for Buffy, but initially, I hated the idea.

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Taleya 2 points 2 years ago

That was the point though - they deliberately made her obnoxious af and pushed it in a way that would put the viewers on the back foot before pulling the rug.

Connor was just a disaster. Even the actor hated the whiny little shit

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Voroxpete 10 points 2 years ago

I'm not going to say "Ruined", but Farscape was significantly degraded by the introduction of Grazer.

Scorpius is one of the greatest antagonists ever written for a TV show. I don't think what they chose to do with him was a terrible idea, it's good to shake things up. But as a replacement as the primary antagonist, Grazer absolutely sucks. The fact that they literally gave her mind control sex pheromones that she spreads from her boobs genuinely sounds like the sort of thing that belongs in a bad porn parody. Like, that is "Horny fourteen year old" levels of bad writing.

Thankfully the one season she's a big deal for is still perfectly enjoyable, and the show sticks the landing pretty decently with Peacekeeper Wars, so don't let this deter anyone from giving it a look. Like all nineties and noughties TV, it's got a lot of ups and downs, but all in all its a really fun show.

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rtxn 10 points 2 years ago

Stargate SG-1, Anubis. A very evil, evil-looking evil guy who is evil and did a bamboozle once. That's all the character depth he has.

Also Cam Mitchell, who is just a non-brand replacement for O'Neill (no offense to the actor).

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aramis87 15 points 2 years ago

So. SG-1 was supposed to end after season 8 (hence Moebius). They were planning a new spinhoff series called Stargate Command to replace SG-1, when SciFi got notice from the parent company - I think at the time it was owned by USA Network? - that they needed to drastically cut costs, and the only way they could lose the amount needed was to cancel a series.

Bonnie Hammer, who was president of SciFi at the time the decision had to be made, was a massive fan of Farscape; she wanted to cancel Stargate Command and keep Farscape running. Only there was a bunch of concern that Farscape didn't have the ratings the network would need, and more concern about launching yet another Stargate spinoff - Stargate Atlantis had just launched in 2004 when the decisions were being made, and Stargate Infinity had failed miserably a couple years earlier.

Despite the struggles, they decided that Stargate had more name recognition and staying power than Farscape, and Hammer made the painful decision to cancel Farscape; and also cancel Stargate Command as a spin-off but instead to role it's concepts into a continuing SG-1. With RDA having left, they had cast openings, and Hammer brought both Browser and Black from Farscape over to the revived SG-1 (hoping to also bring in song Farscape fans to boost SG-1's ratings), where it lasted out the contracted two years.

Atlantis ran for another couple years, until Cooper and Wright decided they really wanted to clone the darker themes from Battlestar Galactica and created Universe. But they didn't prep the audiences correctly. A lot of the OG SG-1/SGA fans didn't like the new, darker atmosphere, and a lot of potential fans who would've liked the new series never tuned in because the original series hadn't captivated them. It was on the verge of finding it's audience but time ran out; Universe only lasted two years before it too was cancelled.

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Ledericas 1 point 2 years ago

mgm was also losing money, which also had a hand in sgu/sga cancellation. SGU writers/showrunners realized thier mistakes too late, season 2 was getting interesting. and allegedly in an interview season 3 was including more of the aliens"threat) that have been missing for almost 2 seasons. the planet builders was suppose to be part of season 3. years later i heard they said, they couldnt reboot or make a new SG series because of current "societal issues" i got this from various posts on reddit over the years.

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iAmTheTot 8 points 2 years ago

Aw real bummed to see you say this. Cam did the best he could stepping into the shoes he was, and while he's no O'Neill, he grew on me. And I liked Anubis, too!

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fox2263 6 points 2 years ago

They killed off Sokar too early in my opinion and then realised the mistake and made Sokar 2

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Ledericas 1 point 2 years ago

they had a 2-for-1 deal with claudia black since they both came from farscape, im guessing thats why. i think shes the better actor though.

i think anubis was thier way of making amends for not allowing sokar to last longer in the show. he barely made an impact in his arc, more like side characther than the main protagonist of the show.

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rtxn 1 point 2 years ago

Browder's acting was fine. It's the character I didn't like. A third "charismatic, witty, sarcastic leader" archetype was just too much after O'Neill and Sheppard. His tragic background also feels tacked-on, rushed, and inconsequential, and doesn't have the same impact as Cold Lazarus.

Claudia Black, I actually like, mainly because of her stellar performance in the Uncharted games. Vala showed promise early on as a sort of opportunist anti-hero who may help or hinder SG-1 depending on the circumstances, but her inclusion in the SGC's personnel was too much, let alone putting her in SG-1. Teal'c proved his loyalty and reliability, Vala did the opposite.

On the whole, the SGC had turned into a parody of itself. Beau Bridges was fine, but I couldn't take him seriously as a general. Dr. Lee, an obvious comic relief character, did not help. Without Hammond's straight man to counter the shenanigans, I just couldn't take it seriously anymore.

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dumblederp 0 points 2 years ago

Farscape actors turning up in SG-1 was a disappointment for me. Whatever Claudia Black does for people, she doesn't do it for me.

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collapse_already 8 points 2 years ago

Neelix made me eventually quit watching Star Trek Voyager. Too much cringe.

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dumblederp 1 point 2 years ago

Great show if you skip / fast forward his scenes.

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Ledericas 1 point 2 years ago

there was a episode, where tuvok was either daydreaming or had a holideck program on , where he was strangling neelix, and everyone was clapping.

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Taleya 1 point 2 years ago

Have you ever seen avenue5? Neelix was apparently supposed to be a lot more like Spike before they went jar jar

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dutchkimble 1 point 2 years ago

They realised and made him Tuvix for a bit.

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mydoomlessaccount 5 points 2 years ago

When I was a kid, I don't think I kept watching Rugrats for very much longer after they added Dil.

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Beacon 4 points 2 years ago

Friends when they added Paul Rudd

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chase_what_matters 15 points 2 years ago

You will not besmirch the good name of Crap Bag like that.

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MoreFPSmorebetter 4 points 2 years ago

Parks and Rec. They spend like a whole season trying to convince you that April hated Andy forever and it just didn't need to go on that long. They are way funnier as a couple for the rest of the show and they could have just gotten there in an episode two instead of wasting a whole season with her dating that Spanish guy that Andy ends up playing music with anyway.

Even on rewatches those scenes just feel forced and stupid. Still love the show though.

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Ledericas 1 point 2 years ago

some people said it was andy that ruined the show, and given who the actor supports irl is not a surprise.

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S_H_K 4 points 2 years ago

Izumi in Gantz he was the problem and also the symptom. That became a shitshow for posterity. What the fuck were those vampires man!
Sheldon in the Big bang theory I know he comes in episode 1 but how the fuck anyone puts up with his shirt? The show for real should have been Leonard saying "why I have to tolerate you?" And gtfo that apartment. I know Sheldon is used as a device to generate stories but man... Could you not just do a nerd stereotypes list of a character?

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mediocre_magi 3 points 2 years ago

Rory (Lucifer's daughter) from the future on the TV show Lucifer. The time travel plot line felt pretty forced.

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Ledericas 1 point 2 years ago

i watched clips of the show, but what was her role, and since she is a nephilim she would be much more powerful than any angel

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andrewta 1 point 2 years ago

No

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Dnb 1 point 2 years ago

The lincoln lawyer tv show

Introduction of Cisco ruined it.

Guy is supposed to be a big macho hunk biker and was some sweaty mom's basement dewler... we had to turn it off and never went back.

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NutinButNet 1 point 2 years ago
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zabadoh 1 point 2 years ago

Cheers wasn't the same after Kirstie Alley's Rebecca replaced Diane...

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z9rovfx 1 point 2 years ago
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Ledericas 0 points 2 years ago

so specific genre, shows that have to use "famous" hollywood actors as a shoehorn for the show ruiend the show.

SPN for example had to shoehorn to less than so-so actors for the shows, kripke dint want in the first 5 season(adam) and later jack in the last few season.

picard was super problematic from s1-s3, and thier attempt including all the old cast was cringey at best, plus they tried to shoehorn changelings again for some reason.

isaip, not so much as a introduction, but a change in the way they were written it was clear by later season the cast were not writing anymore(and they have largely given up on the show), and they had to shoe horn things like metoo movement, and very vain issues of socoeital issues. and the actors themselves, aside from charlie and danny devito had become pretty shallow people both in the show and irl(thier PLASTIC surgery binge and obsession with being with the elite circles of hollywood made show unwatchable past season 13.

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