Trump names ‘first buddy’ and DOGE head Elon Musk to investigate Signal blunder

a year ago by MicroWave to c/politics

Musk offered ‘his technical experts’ to help investigate how a journalist was added to a group chat with national security officials

Summary

Trump appointed Elon Musk, head of the DOGE, to investigate how a journalist was accidentally added to a Signal chat discussing military operations in Yemen.

National Security Adviser Mike Waltz admitted fault but could not explain how the contact was saved. Trump speculated that the journalist may have added himself.

The investigation will involve Musk’s technical team, the National Security Council, and White House lawyers.

A federal lawsuit challenges the use of Signal for government communication, alleging it violates federal law.

Certainnarrator3 172 points a year ago

Trump speculated that the journalist may have added himself.

You can't even do that on Signal! But MAGAts will eat it up and keep repeating it cuz of how dumb they are.

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mokus 142 points a year ago

Ok let’s suppose you could though. Wouldn’t that make it EVEN MORE criminally negligent to discuss classified info there?

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TheTechnician27 66 points a year ago

Right??? Like oh my actual god, if a journalist could do this (it's completely, categorically impossible), then every nation-state on Earth would use it to trivially eavesdrop.

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jballs 13 points a year ago

Yeah, this would make the story exponentially worse. It'd be like if you got caught cheating on your wife and went "whoa calm down! I didn't know that woman, she just showed up to my Friday night gang bang unannounced!”

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qprimed 28 points a year ago

exactly. I use and love signal. its a fantastic privacy tool - seriously! but the amount of pure stupid on display by this administration is just too much to take.

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PointyReality 34 points a year ago

With the MAGAts its best to imagine a very low bar, then lower that again by half the amount and thats where they are in terms of how dumb they are.

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MagicShel 11 points a year ago

"Think of the most average person you know, and then realize that half of all people are dumber than that every one of these morons has the collective IQ of a carrot."

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Bamboodpanda 23 points a year ago

Why would they discuss classified military plans on an app where outsiders could just "add themselves". That argument isn't helping their case...

Nevermind. I need to stop thinking about things. The sheer stupidity hurts my brain.

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undefined 7 points a year ago

We’re supposed to think “he (the journalist) is so bad and evil he hacked into the secure platform” — not that that helps their case either.

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barneypiccolo 1 point a year ago

It seems like their best argument is that they are incredibly stupid, and a smart reporter took advantage of them.

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Flisty 1 point a year ago

@barneypiccolo @Bamboodpanda really gives you confidence that they all know what they're doing in the databases to make sure "everything's computer" in the federal agencies

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jbloggs777 10 points a year ago

"Hold my unlocked phone while I chug this beer!"

《criminal mastermind journalist adds himself to confidential chat group》

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Sanctus 9 points a year ago

You know what you can do? Anyone can add to a group their in. At least from what I've seen. Secure for govy talk for sure.

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qprimed 16 points a year ago

signal group chats can have admins and users. admins are able to control access to the group.

signal is a social communication network. yes, when everything works well and people dont screw up, its wonderfully private and secure - one of the best and easiest to use secure social communication tools around.

the real issue is... these idiots used it (probably from their personal phones!) like it was NSA approved tech. lead idiot hegseth being all "opsec is clean" while an unknown participant has been added to the group chat is just... I have no words. these people are playing dressup.

signal on an uncompromised device and with decent digital hygiene will keep a whole bunch of people and TLAs out of your business. however, I do not expect the US Govt planing military fucking strikes via signal just so the "principals" can conveniently sip drinks by the pool instead of being in an NSA approved communication facility.

seriously, fuck!

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Funky_Beak 8 points a year ago

Oh yeah they are boys playing men. It's some wild shit to see.

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doc 8 points a year ago

There's a setting for that. It's open invite or admin invite. Default is open invite.

Doubtful any of the participants knew that, though.

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EvacuateSoul 5 points a year ago

Marco Rubio added another account of his in the screenshots, so that was not disabled.

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logi 9 points a year ago

Also of nitee is the "Waltz added you to the group" line. Unless The Atlantic modified the screenshot, then we know exactly what happened.

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Sprocketfree 129 points a year ago

OK... so you want to say he added himself... which let's ignore that you can't do that, but say you can. Then why are they using this app? Basically saying national security measures out in the public. That's not a better look.

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xyzzy 85 points a year ago

I dare say I'm beginning to suspect this Trump fellow may not be as competent as he claims

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Demonmariner 10 points a year ago

No! Rilly?

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shaquilleoatmeal 57 points a year ago

“We have investigated ourselves and discovered nothing happened.”

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kingie_d 52 points a year ago

Haha! WTF! It's a group chat in a messaging app - not some super high tech hacking operation!

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jonne 33 points a year ago

Yeah, it's just a case of a boomer not knowing how to use their fucking phone.

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barneypiccolo 1 point a year ago

Hey! I'm a Boomer, and I can use my phone very well, thank you very much. Don't blame it on him being a Boomer, blame it on him for the REAL reason - he's just virtuosically stupid, like every one of them on those texts (except the journalist).

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ArchmageAzor 9 points a year ago

Considering what these people are like, it may very well be the entire dark net.

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SnotFlickerman 42 points a year ago

lmao what's to investigate other than what dumb pieces of shit these are?

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just_another_person 38 points a year ago

Like any idiot who doesn't want to take account for doing something idiotic, you need to send five people after the "true cause", when everybody knows exactly what it is already.

  1. It's illegal to use commercial means to discuss national security matter or military engagement
  2. You typed "J G" into a fucking app and shared said secrets with someone who wasn't cleared.

Finding different ways to explain it isn't going to distract from point #1, and only further explain how fucking dumb you all are.

Idiots.

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Mog_fanatic 17 points a year ago

It will tho. This will 100% work. Musk will say there was some backdoor hacking bull crap going on and the journalist snuck into the meeting and then made it seem like he was invited by accident to make them look bad. It will be played off as a nasty attack that was only meant to make the Republican heroes of this country look bad while also risking national security and the lives of those in the military.

And they will eat it up like pigs. God I hope I'm wrong.

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pivot_root 11 points a year ago

I think you are wrong, but only in the you're not thinking about the big picture.

Elon "I traced the DDOS to Ukrainian terrorists" Musk is in charge of this. Someone on Twitter (probably his alt) is going to post a conspiracy on Twitter about Ukrainian or Canadian hackers being behind it, and he's going to retweet it with some plausibly deniable bullshit like "not far off," and rally up his cult of reactionary prokaryots to demand a economic or military response. It's yet another golden opportunity for the crony collective to sweep their own incompetence under the rug while simultaneously scapegoating another country to push their unspoken-but-obvious agenda.

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Kyrgizion 7 points a year ago

I hate that I read this and immediately went "yup, that's how it'll go" without a hint of irony.

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knobbysideup 31 points a year ago

How about investigating why they were using signal and not all in prison for it.

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Rhaedas 24 points a year ago

They should have used something more secure, like an AOL chatroom. Or public IRC.

"Hey Mr. @BigBrain, can I have an @ on my user name too?"

@BigBrain "Sure!"

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danc4498 22 points a year ago

“Elon Musk has offered to put his technical experts on this to figure out how this number was inadvertently added to the chat. Again, to take responsibility and ensure this can never happen again.”

Take responsibility? That would be unprecedented.

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kablammy 1 point a year ago
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frunch 21 points a year ago

Just wait till Leon assigns Big Balls to the case -- they'll get to the bottom of this in a flash

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truthfultemporarily 20 points a year ago

Its probably just pretext to arrest the editor, and charge him with treason .

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LuxSpark 18 points a year ago

We can all sleep better knowing Shitler is on the case.

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jojo 14 points a year ago

This belongs in politicalmemes /s

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firebyte 12 points a year ago

Unrelated, though what's with Musk, perhaps other MAGAts, wearing the MAGA hat like that in the thumbnail: barely touching their head, so much that a slight breeze would knock it off.

Is it some sort of literal 'big brain' show off thing?

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Hellinabucket 8 points a year ago

Nah he just paid a lotta money to have that hair and doesn't wanna crush it with that hat.

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Ledericas 4 points a year ago

probably to hide his hair procedures, how botched it was.

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whotookkarl 11 points a year ago

He's unqualified, but at this point I'm surprised they didn't assign the case to a cactus named detective pokey.

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danhab99 10 points a year ago

'first buddy' ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮

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Bluefalcon 10 points a year ago

This is going to turn into a privacy issue with signal not Zapp Brannigan giving the codes away.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 9 points a year ago

Huh, as it turns out, that group chat had about 10 million people that were over 150 years old.

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Hobbes_Dent 9 points a year ago

You investigate the massive security breach with an even bigger security breach?

Tom Clancys Rotating Coffin Turbine Power Generation - may he rotate in peace - is going to need to upgrade the lines.

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Goodmorningsunshine 9 points a year ago

Good, waste more millions of dollars having the Musktard "investigate." Sounds like a perfect plan, you misplanted piece of fucking abortion, Trump.

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gravitas_deficiency 9 points a year ago

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Shawdow194 1 point a year ago

I really like this reaction gif

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tonytins 8 points a year ago

Elon is turning into the Jared Lushner of this second term.

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ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 8 points a year ago

Help, help! Someone call Dunning-Kruger Man! Please, Dunning-Kruger Man, confidently tell us it's someone else's fault without actually understanding anything! Hurry, we're trapped in this news cycle with no way out!

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matlag 7 points a year ago

So next time it will be fucked up all the same, but using X private messages instead of Signal.

That should do!

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barneypiccolo 5 points a year ago

This is actually good news. We knew there was never going to be a valid investigation anyway, so at least this forces the MuskRat to waste at least a portion of his resources on this cover-up. He'll also certainly violate a few laws while doing it, so when they finally lose power, we can slam him with those charges as well, and lock him up for longer, and fine his estate another several billion in fines and damages.

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samus12345 3 points a year ago

I don't have any faith whatsoever that, if we can oust the fascists from power, they'll face any consequences at all. There will be no Nuremberg trials this time. They're more likely to just get voted back in.

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barneypiccolo 2 points a year ago

No, not the next time. If we manage to wrest power from them again, it won't be with the current bunch of weak, spineless weenies that comprise the current Dem leadership, like that fucking scumbag Chuck Schumer.

Our liberators will be a new guard of Democrats, who are fucking pissed off as Hell, and it will be their pledge to purge MAGA from our government and our country by any means necessary, that gives them power. They will take power knowing they are expected to punish the MAGA Traitors to Hell and back, and they'll do it.

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samus12345 2 points a year ago

Here's hopin'!

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philpo 5 points a year ago

To be a pessimist here: This will be the end of signal. They will move in on the LLC and foundation soon citing national security reasons. Or they may have done so already but kept things under the rugs due to national security laws.

And to play a conspiracy theorist for once: Maybe that was the plan all along. We all know how much Elmo hates Signal.

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SerpentPeaked 4 points a year ago

Maybe he will fire all of them. It is his go to move.

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BeardedGingerWonder 1 point a year ago

Seems like an actually interesting move, there's no love lost between Leon and Vance from what we've seen so far.

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igg 3 points a year ago

...and they were roommates

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