It will still cause other countries economies to shrink, as most economies are interlinked in the modern age; but even with the loss in GDP, removing US trade/tech/military reliance is definitely for the better imo. The USA positioning themselves alongside Russia has woke up the rest of the world to the fact that America isn't simply arrogant... It's also dangerous.

I don't see a way back for the US in all honesty. The problem isn't the rogue state behaviour, it's the virile support for such actions seen from many of their citizens. In the coming years we'll no doubt see American military bases being shutdown across the globe, in retaliation to their animosity, and it will only continue further until the US is a pariah state.

I suppose it's some solace that the democrats are able to somewhat slow the implosion of the US through the senate, but that won't be enough to stop them falling out of favour with the rest of the world, and thus losing a huge part of their power. And I have to wonder, is this the exact outcome Putin wanted (America surviving, but struggling... Allowing them to exist as the bad guy, Rather than complete desolation), or just a happy accident after getting Krasnov elected?.

Stocks are down all over the globe, not sure if you noticed.

As much? I don't think ever. Breath of the Wild is still it's release price despite it's sequel, in the same world but with more content, being out and the same price. They're insane.

In the Switch era, they don't at all. Nintendo Selects isn't a thing any more.

They sell brillo used by crackheads as filters right next to the crack pipes at gas stations in the hood.

I could be wrong, but doesn't the process of cooking the cocaine into crack kind of "filter" it so to speak?

This line of thinking is why we are being price gouged to begin with.

Oh, my sweet summer child...

Remember 2008/2009 recession? This was cause by the USA economy, but affected the entire world.

Even if you think it's not worldwide, you do realise some countries and regions rely heavily upon trading with the US. And it will cause inflation, though how much depends on what will actually happen now.

As others pointed out, it's not only the US economy that will be hit, but also everyone that trades with them.

To illustrate some examples, Canadian aluminum might end up with 25% tariffs. That means anything made within the USA that uses said aluminum will get a price increase. Canadian companies might end up with a surplus, since their main customers won't be buying as much (instead of paying 100 dollars for a tonne, 'mericans will pay 125 dollars per tonne). That surplus will drive prices down if they can't find someone else to buy the aluminum.

Since the tariffs aren't only on Canadian aluminum, but a lot of stuff from a lot of countries, some of that stuff will end up with a significant surplus and no new buyers. For smaller countries that rely on USA exports, that's going to hurt a lot.

ROFL you really have no idea how things work huh

The world economy is dependent on countries like the USA.

Lol

I consider myself a Nintendo fanboy. I've owned every console.

Would not jump off a bridge.

However, these game prices are too high. I don't think third party games will be that price but first party games will be there.

I crave for the earlier days of the 3DS to happen again, please Nintendo fan base, I have a bit of faith.

I genuinely thought GTA6 was gonna beat them to the punch.

All it takes is for a major corporation to pull the trigger. Since Nintendo is willing to take that step, other companies are going to be observing to see if it's worth the temporary backlash.

I get the MSRP outrage, but I mean it's not an unusual cost for launch day titles, especially for physical media.

I don't think I've ever paid full retail for any game or console I've ever owned though. And I do like to own my games by buying physical media (or at least the installer files).

Because inflation applies to all products equally and there aren't ever relative adjustments /s

What games currently cost that much though, is my question really, I guess. The last expensive titles I can see right now for standard editions of games is like, 70Eur equivalent for AAA type titles.

I mean I own a switch, and I've never paid anything close to that for games... I've gone to maybe £45-50 for launch titles but what games cost £70?

But if you account for average wages, the prices are higher now.

Oh wow, I didn't realize physical manufacturing, storage, transport and sale was only $10!

Other way, I think. 80 for digital, 90 for physical. In USD anyways.

Oh wow! I can buy a digital game worth the same price as a physical game! What a deal! /s

I'll be waiting for the Tinfoil discount.

"The future is Here!!!"

We're lucky Valve has fuck you money for when Nintendo inevitably come after them

If we're talking home use, you can buy enterprise switches for less than $100 on the secondary market. I got a 1GB PoE 24 port managed switch for $35.

I believe I found the switch but can't find the price - IXR-G24044X-24PH

That's why you don't buy Cisco

We are currently moving away from cisco because they want 12k+ for a new switch. Juniper or HP for us i think.

Honestly who cares about the power of hardware on a handheld, sadly this is something Ninendo used to understand better than anyone else.

Focus on making the games fun and the hardware capable enough, don't get lost in the hype of trying to out hardware competitors and pull in customers that way.

Well, they have clearly abandoned that strategy, but I think this was the worst possible situation to do this in because they are going to continue to get destabilized by the Steam Deck just being a Switch that doesn't try to obsessively control everything you can do on it. It is a waste of money to buy such a closed down device, even if it is more powerful than a Steam Deck.

On the one side, yeah they are over protective of their IPS

On the other, This is Nintendo, not Ubisoft LMAO 🤣

Ubisoft, who literally spends more money on lawyers to sue reviewers and anyone giving their opinion of their latest worst game than in their ACS game 🤣

Much to Nintendo's dismay

That's too high!

Doesn’t change that $60 in 2010 are almost $90 today. Devs/publishers aren’t any more greedy than they were 15 years ago.

Is that the same in Japan? I know Japan has a horrible work culture in general.

Not solely. If you paid $60 for a game in 2010, that‘d be almost $88 today, simply due to inflation. It’s a wonder the prices haven’t skyrocketed any sooner.

Not that I want that, I‘d prefer games being affordable but it was kinda inevitable considering the way the economy is going…

Also, I‘d personally rather pay $90 once than have a cheap game with a shitload of micro transactions. Of course, developers/publishers that ask $90 for a game and still include a bunch of micro transactions can fuck right of.

Exactly.

I would be a lot more willing to accept the inflation argument if salaries at these companies were going up at inflation rates too.

Not unless you're an executive, that is...

Those who won't will get them on a sale later.

/C/patientgamers represent!

I'll gladly wait 3-5 years to play a $90 retail game for $10-20. There are already too many games in my library to play, I don't need to piss away $100 on a game I'll be bored with in 2 months.

I never said the CEOs are saints. They’re just not worse than they were 15 years ago. At least for devs/publishers that don’t put micro transactions in full price games.

Fr. It'd be a forgettable bit of marketing, a tech demo no one really cares about if they'd included it free. With the price tag it turns from that into an anti consumer insult, a slap to the face to anyone who thinks they're in this for any reason other than extracting as much money out of their consumers as they can get away with

And so is The Lab.

Even the PS5 did it for free, and that feels like a game more than a demo.

Yea, my biggest reason for buying was hoping for couch coop games to play with my partner. Turns out there aren't a ton of them and the ones I could find my partner doesn't care for. sigh

Piracy is the competition.

Companies that recognize that and improve their products and services in order to compete, results in better products and services as well as an influx of happy customers. See valve and steam.

Companies that don't improve and instead seek to stiffle competition through dmca and litigation get their products pirated and services ignored. See how nintendo games are the most pirated on any site that shows stats for such things.

For example, Mario 3 is fucking ancient, how many times does nintendo expect me to buy it? They got my money several times over, and now in order to legally play it on a current platform, it's locked behind a subscription service. No thank you. Besides, I prefer to play platformers with a keyboard. I'd pay for nintendo games again if they let me download to my pc.

Except, what about all the games I bought online for my wiiu and 3ds? Those storefronts are gone, so anything I didn't already have downloaded is gone. If anything happens to those consoles, the few games I do have on them are gone. (i personally never actually had a 3ds or wiiu, but lots of people did and are in this exact boat). I cannot trust nintendo to preserve my purchases, like I can with any other modern digital storefront.

yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

I think expecting Nintendo do allow people to play their games without being customers is bizarre

If they want those customers they can sell their game on a system that can actually handle it

Because you're presupposing that copyright is right in the first place. Distribution of information has been made free - because of the internet it's the one thing so far where the Star Trek future has been made reality. But intellectual property laws are designed to create artificial scarcity so that one publisher can monopolize a creative work, to the detriment of everyone else.

Fans of various game franchises are not just consumers, but creators in their own right. You have to remember that this delegitimized practice of "piracy" also results in the entire romhacking community.

The bottom line is that free sharing of information benefits us all and produces a rich commons, but intellectual property plunders that commons and produces centralization of media ownership while stripping away our right to be co-creators.

They could bust je passionate about spoonerisms

assholes

I think they know that.

Yeah you can say the N word

SNES was arguably better than Genesis system

The SNES and Genesis were comparable. You could argue one or the other, but it was a tighter race than the Playstation 3 curb-stomping the Wii.

N64 has much more raw power than my favorite system the PS1

Playstation had CD-ROM, and that's all that needs to be said about that battle.

GameCube was stronger than PS2 and Dreamcast

Comparing the GameCube with the PS2, it had less VRAM, less RAM, a faster CPU, roughly equiv video processor. I would say they were about equal, and that's with GameCube coming out two years later.

The PS2 was also the strongest console to ever fight in any sort of console war, with its ridiculously large library of games. PS2 punished Sega so hard they permanent removed themselves out of the race, and Nintendo had to completely change strategies to fill a different niche and audience, which worked with the Wii. However, that came with the dumbing down of hardware that everybody is talking about. They have been pushing shitty outdated hardware ever since.

I stand corrected, I guess I was comparing the gamecube to an xbox, but yeah agreed, I just bought a second steam deck OLED when I already had the LCD model because honestly I think the economy is going to crash hard and it is going to be a long road to affordably getting a gaming device in the US for the foreseeable future.

It is a shitty situation to be in, but I didn't even hesitate because the current calculus is a no brainer. I have Blender on my Steam Deck and I am using it to create cool visualizations of Lidar data for Geology, Nintendo would respond to a statement like this with something like "yeah, that is cool but it sounds very niche, people don't need that" and my response is "Fuck you, you haven't even let people try".

I heard of another Geologist bringing in their steam deck to present a talk off of it instead of a laptop too, these kinds of interesting unusual use cases aren't trivial and hyper individual, they represent people developing the future of handheld computers in real time, and Nintendo has completely lost the plot here. The Steam Deck really isn't a gaming device, it is a gaming device that Trojan Horses you into having an awesome handheld linux computer that can also play your favorite games.

If Nintendo thinks they can compete with the Steam Deck by just selling a better handheld gaming console, they are so fucked.... or at the very least they are walking away from what will actually be the next big growth area in computers (that people were SURE AI and VR would be).

Nintendo execs are likely sitting there being like "damn we are going to make so much money selling the best handheld gaming console and completely dominate the handheld gaming console market so we can charge $100 a game" while missing the MUCH LARGER profit opportunity of evolving their handheld console into a handheld computer.

Think about it, Nintendo is in the perfect position to evolve their Switch into more and more of a computer, and it would give them a MASSIVE new horizon of growth opportunities especially since countless kids grow up playing on Switches and already know how to use them inside out... it would help Nintendo protect itself from encroachment by other big tech, and do any number of other longterm things for Nintendo's growth and profit.

Instead the idiots want to gouge people for more money by squeezing ONLY the gaming potential out of the switch, it is pathetic and I wish legislation around the world didn't allow massive corporations to behave this foolishly in trying to close down their systems so they don't accidentally create the "wrong" kind of value or innovation.

Ah yes, console released over 30 years ago.

Yeah, I was trying to say the switch can be thought of as a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control.

Yeah, I have a Switch too but it's not been turned on in maybe two years, getting a Steam Deck basically retired it

I do the same, but not because of sales, but because it takes 2-3 years for the high seas to swell with jolly rogers.

Used physical copies are usually cheap.

It had one on the secondary market. 🤟

Switch 2: emulation boogaloo

I genuinely believe a primary driving factor for the switch 2 was to hinder emulation of new releases. I don't remember any of this but I think my friend said TOTK was available on bad websites a week before the official release. But I wouldn't know.

Damn. Gotta start emulating that too.

So yeah after a year of a release.

My initial response to this was "ehhh", but a quick look at the consoles I grew up with shows you're right. The only exception I saw was the PS3 thanks to it's pretty bonkers CPU.

The Super Nintendo user a Ricoh 5A22, which was based on the W65C816S used in the Apple II.

The Sega Genesis used a Motorola 68000, which was popular for Unix computers. It also made it into a number of PCs like the Apple Lisa, Macintosh, and Amiga

The PS1 and PS2 both had a R3000A-compatible 32-bit RISC CPU that was used in a lot of workstations of the era, but none of those would be familiar to an x86 user.

The PS3's processor was the stuff of hype and legends. It bore no resemblance to PCs of the time

Nah, they were specialized hardware. IIRC the Xbox was the first "PC console".

Only some 3rd party cartridges have a download key on them, and they're significantly cheaper than the ones that don't.

Also where is the 90 price I keep seeing on here coming from? I've only seen 70-80 prices for first party titles. Bravely Default (which is a download key tho) is only 40 isn't it?

I mean, the Metroid Community is starving.