They had to put a fucking law in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo mandating that restaurants had to have physical menus with the printed prices.
a year ago by irelephant [he/him]🍭 to c/iiiiiiitttttttttttt
driving_crooner 95 points a year ago
driving_crooner 32 points a year ago
Looks like I misunderstood and is still a law project
https://www.saopaulo.sp.leg.br/...
In Rio was made into law in 2023
ChilledPeppers 8 points a year ago
Nunca me senti tao patriota. Kkkk
evasive_chimpanzee 52 points a year ago
I like when there's a qr code that allows you to order and pay without needing to wait for a waiter. A qr code where it just links to a pdf of a menu that they didn't want to print sucks.
4am 34 points a year ago
If it’s printed on the inside of the menu so you can order quickly when it’s busy and help take some of the pressure off the servers and maybe get your food faster? That’s cool.
When it’s just a virtual menu so they can surge price in real time? Fuck those places.
CosmicTurtle0 28 points a year ago
PDF is at least kind of permanent. Most restaurants that have qr code set up usually have "surge pricing" that allows them to change their prices on a whim.
boreengreen 8 points a year ago
Not much of a challange to have a webserver point to another pdf when some condition is fulfilled.
Takumidesh 15 points a year ago
You can just generate a PDF on demand. There isn't much permanent about them at all.
TachyonTele 9 points a year ago
Say "for $3.00" after your order, too. Fuck'em.
Lenny 3 points a year ago
The only setting in which it’s actually helpful is when you go to an establishment that prioritizes drinks and the food is an afterthought (but you can still walk up to the bar and never use the QR code if you wanted).
ironhydroxide 80 points a year ago
I get someone made a hilarious mistake.
But why would you not even test the code before gluing them to all the tables?
Or before sending the code to be etched?
HexadecimalSky 73 points a year ago
I think since its not so much btoken as pointing to a local file, I think they may have tested it on the one device they made it, so it worked...on that device.
They should have 100% tested it on other devices
ironhydroxide 21 points a year ago
Guess I'm showing my age then. Because the intended end use device is obviously a phone, I assume they used their phone to generate the qr, send it out to etch, and test the result. I can't use my phone for shit like that. To me that is much more a real screen type of job (generating the qr code, generating the gcode in lightburn, etc) done on a computer, instead of a tablet/phone
CarnivorousCouch 4 points a year ago
Some tasks belong on the medium screen, not the tiny one!
thesystemisdown 19 points a year ago
Or perhaps hire someone who knows what they're doing.
save_the_humans 2 points a year ago
Might be guests just have to connect to the network first before scanning the code.. Easy solution. Before you order you'll just have to log into our WiFi and then scan our qr code.
logi 12 points a year ago
Those exist (and are sort of annoying) but localhost literally points back to your own machine. No network setup is going to fix that (Short of running a proxy locally or messing with your hosts file. Not normal diner behaviour)
Harrk 23 points a year ago
I created a QR generator website and you have no idea. I get emails from people saying they’ve printed the codes before discovering it goes to the wrong place (sometimes even to my own site!) and if I can fix it. No... check your codes before they go to print!
The funniest one I had caused me to get a huge spike of traffic on Christmas. It was so weird and left me clueless for weeks, until I got an email from somebody wishing to cancel a subscription.
I don’t sell subscriptions or anything at all!
Turns out somebody printed a QR code into a smartwatch instruction booklet that went straight to my site… The ad revenue was insane tho!
bathing_in_bismuth 3 points a year ago
Which implies he developed the menu on his phone, or he tried to scan it with a laptop webcam lmao
DontRedditMyLemmy 3 points a year ago
Maybe OP is lying
CileTheSane 1 point a year ago
Nothingeverhappens
racketlauncher831 68 points a year ago
I once got a group message from my child's teacher, screaming in excitement that "the event at school is live!"
The link points to 192.168.x.x.
kameecoding 55 points a year ago
I had a worse fucking experience somehow just last week, the QR code pointed you to their fucking instagram, that's where the weekly lunch menu options were posted, except I have no idea how my colleagues even accessed it, because anything I clicked didn't take me to that "story/reel" whatever the fuck it's called, the owner of that restaurant deserves to burn in hell for eternity
MisterFrog 18 points a year ago
I honestly want to fight businesses who don't have a website.
Website hosting is dirty cheap, domains are dirt cheap (relative to other costs of the business).
If you're a retail/hospitality venue your traffic is so low.
If you point me to a Facebook or Instagram page as your only web presence (meaning, no organisation at all, just bloody chronological posts, and maaaaybe some useful information in the page bio), I'm gonna be annoyed.
The number of times some business or organisation updates things on Facebook and Instagram, and not on their website, is frustrating.
Has happened to me many, many times, where I turn up to something that isn't happening because they've only posted it on Instagram
CileTheSane 2 points a year ago
I've been on websites for restaurants that they are clearly trying to do it themselves. The site is janky, has empty menus (or the same broken link 6 times), but I can access the restaurant menu easily so I don't care.
I've tried to get online menus for restaurant's that only have Instagram or Facebook and it makes me really not want to order from them.
MisterFrog 40 points a year ago
The #1 reason I hate QR codes (edit: directing to a website to order & pay for a restaurant online) is because they make you agree to further terms and conditions like collecting data on you.
All just to fucking order food.
Shit should 100% be illegal.
I'm not against the concept of having digital ordering as an option. But it must be an option, and without any data collection
RagingRobot 5 points a year ago
I don't think you have to agree to terms to look at a menu. Maybe a cookie popup though. Those are annoying!
MisterFrog 5 points a year ago
Oh sorry, I was referring to when the ordering is through a website, where you provide your email and phone number in order to pay.
Often times, they're harvesting your personal details.
I really wish it were possible to mask my number, but in my country that's not really possible.
The one thing I've done, is get an alt number as an esim, that I use to receive codes, or whoever you're required to provid a number.
Mean I know with certainty any call I get on that number is spam, or any text I receive I haven't initiated it spam.
I'd much prefer it I could get throw away numbers though
tiredofsametab 4 points a year ago
The #1 reason I hate QR codes is because they make you agree to further terms and conditions like collecting data on you.
0.o A QR code is basically just a data-encoding format and is mostly used to store a link to something. I'm not sure where ToS/etc. come into that.
Localhorst86 20 points a year ago
You'll be redirected to a website, and then you'll get asked to allow cookies, etc.
Localhorst86 22 points a year ago
That's because, unlike an AI, I deduced context from the entire thread and concluded that "I hate QR codes" was not an expression of disapproval of the technical concept of a QR code (i.e. encoding data), but how they are used in an obnoxious way to redirect a user to a website (usually with a menu).
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
MisterFrog 8 points a year ago
Made an edit for clarity.
QR codes are great, linking me to a website where I need to provide my email and phone number to get food is annoying
boreengreen 34 points a year ago
I don't do resturants all that often and I never saw one that had these. But I once encountered this at a clinic. I had no qr reader on my phone and no internet access at the time. So I just waited around until the receptionist came around. Turns out every person in the room ignored the qr-code as well.
stembolts 18 points a year ago
I'll save noobies some time.
for (( i=1; i<65536; i++ ));do
for (( j=1; j<256; i++ ));do
ssh -L $j$i:127.0.0.1:$i -N 192.168.1.$j &
done
done
What could go wrong?
Okay clearly this won't work because there aren't enough local ports to match to 16 bits of ports on potentially 255 machines, but with some slight modification I could add in a test to only increment the local port if the forward is successful and thereby create the dumbest-ass port forwarding script ever.
InnerScientist 11 points a year ago
ip a a 127.0.0.2/8 dev lo
You have a whole /8 subnet of localhost, do it.
stembolts 14 points a year ago
I like where your head is at.
We could also save some time just parsing something like..
nmap --top-ports 100 192.168.1.0/24 | grep -e "report" -e "open"
We have the technology, we can be stupid.
Irelephant 38 points a year ago
I almost said yes, but no, localhost is your own device. If it was a 192.168 ip it would be different.
SpaceNoodle 12 points a year ago
But their subnet is 10.1.1.0/24
SpaceNoodle 1 point a year ago
It was weird, it was like one day I woke up and suddenly everybody else was using 192.168.1.0/24
stoy 10 points a year ago
IT technician here, without modifying the hosts file on your computer it won't work.
You can assume that this will never work on anything other than the development box, regardless of what network you are connected to.
zurohki 4 points a year ago
without modifying the hosts file on your computer it won’t work
Wouldn't be surprised if even that didn't work - localhost resolving to something that isn't the local host is the sort of thing that'd get blocked by browsers as a security exploit.
Zagorath 5 points a year ago
I like these digital menus.
For large groups they're so much better than all coordinating when you're ready to order, ordering, and later working out how to split the bill.
They also let you order in your own time, no need to have someone hovering waiting for you to be ready, or not be there at all.
Though my experience is that they're mostly used at pubs and clubs, where they replace ordering at the counter, rather than table service.
The worst thing is that they always ask for a fucking tip. Shitty companies trying to import even shittier American bullshit.
Zagorath 1 point a year ago
But that's what this is about. Cafes and restaurants replacing or supplementing paper menus where you order by telling a person what you want, with digital menus where you order by going through the online system.
ironhydroxide 8 points a year ago
Being this incompetent it's more expensive....
A_Random_Idiot 13 points a year ago
Yeah, sorry not sorry, I'm not sitting down at a restaurant and scanning a random QR code in the hopes of getting a menu.
Only thing worse than this is places that don't accept cash or credit, only some kind of cash transfer app like zelle.
tocopherol 6 points a year ago
don’t accept cash or credit, only some kind of cash transfer app like zelle.
That sounds sketchy, I've seen card only but where have you seen a business do this?
tux7350 5 points a year ago
Lots of small business / vendors at festivals do stuff like this. They don't want to pay Visa or Mastercard for each transaction and will instead use a personal cash transfer app to move the money.
Or it's for drugs lol
tocopherol 2 points a year ago
That makes sense at like a booth or festival vendor, I didn't think of that. I did use cash app once at a shop where I'm at to buy unregulated weed ahah.
postmateDumbass 10 points a year ago
Someone needs to name their catering business 'localhost'
roserose56 10 points a year ago
Yea but we shouldn't pollute the world with printed menus! websites don't get lost, like the printed ones! downtime is amazing! /S
I prefer printed menus, you sit, you read, you eat. No scan, no using your phone or anything else. What else they gonna add? dine in but order online?
roserose56 1 point a year ago
I was questioning, and to be true can't believe this is happening!
Frozengyro 2 points a year ago
And you can even pay on your phone, no need for a POS to pay your bill.
roserose56 3 points a year ago
Yeaa! So you would sit, check the menu online, order online, pay online, they bring your food, you leave.
Frozengyro 3 points a year ago
Make sure to tip 35%! Unless you're a cheap bastard who doesn't deserve to go out!
TheImpressiveX 7 points a year ago
"Ticket closed."
fushuan 5 points a year ago
Reading other comments I'm on the unpopular side, but I prefer QR menus to physical ones. We don't have that surge price thing here, prices are pretty stable usually.
Printing several menus and having to replace them when they get dirty and stuff is such an unnecessary waste.
Irelephant 9 points a year ago
Why can't you have both?
fushuan 5 points a year ago
I don't mind when there's physical menus but people saying that they would leave the restaurant when there's not is crazy for me, menus are a waste of paper and ink.
I'm more used to either PDFs that are updated once per year (and the restaurant usually has a bunch of physical copies, but not enough for everyone on peak hour and that's completely reasonable) or webapps that have the regular menu where they can strikethrough sold out items so that it's easier for customers to notice, add dynamic items like "the fish of the day", or even being able to click each item to get a preview image.
I agree that having prices be updated every hour/minute day according to demand is incredibly scummy and completely inexcusable, and restaurants that do those things should be boycotted, but that's a separate from the menu digitalization.
dellish 5 points a year ago
I'd be fine with it if all the we page did was take my order. Too often I need to put in a name and email address, just to order food, and that pisses me right off. I just want to eat at your stupid place, not sign up to the foodies-food-fanclub
fushuan 1 point a year ago
In my experience, after thinking what I want I ask a server to take my order. The digital menu is there as a replacement of the physical menu. All the complaints I read are about the extra things the restaurant tries to do with it. Replacing servers' tasks and abusive pricing practices. Fix those, complain about those.
Jimmycakes -1 points a year ago
I'm not trying to touch a poorly laminated menu with the last guys spilled salsa on it that's been wiped "clean" by the hostess with a rag in some bucket of water that's been sitting there for god knows how long. Minutes before I touch my food.
stevestevesteve 4 points a year ago
Nah you'll just touch the table with the last guys spilled salsa on it that's been wiped "clean" in the same way
Jimmycakes 1 point a year ago
Why the fuck would I touch the table with my fingertips? Am I some kind of sicko in this scenario? Do you think people sit down and just scrape their fingertips across the table like some cult ritual before they eat.
Jimmycakes 0 points a year ago
Ok cool I'll make sure the 16 year old girl doing her first job ever knows all about food safety laws. Restaurant operators are so famous for following food safety laws. Thanks for the big tip my guy.
athos 1 point a year ago
@Irelephant a few years ago I went to São Paulo and brough two phones, my main phone and a burner one
I went out with my friends with the burner one and we ended up in a bar that did not had any physical menu and the QR code only lead to Instagram. while I do use Instagram, I did not had it installed on the burner and they added the menu in the fixed stories, so it required logging in to look them (which I could not do since I had 2FA enabled)
iiiiiiitttttttttttt
@lemmy.world
891
60
1
you know the computer thing is it plugged in?
Moved to !iiiiiiitttttttttttt@programming.dev.
go to feed...
iiiiiiitttttttttttt
@lemmy.world
891
60
1
you know the computer thing is it plugged in?
Moved to !iiiiiiitttttttttttt@programming.dev.
go to feed...
Fuck I despise this menu bullshit. Give me a fucking menu.
save