transcription: women be like "where can i find a goth gf?" my sister in christ we killed the american shopping mall and the goth girls lost their natural habitat
LuigiMaoFrance 64 points a year ago
Tiger_Man_ 7 points a year ago
Em actually that's not the ship of Theseus
Tiger_Man_ 2 points a year ago
This is not the ship of Theseus because all the parts have been replaced
Trainguyrom 17 points a year ago
Hot Topic is losing its edge (seriously there was like one rack of fishnets and the rest was branded stuff including Bluey branded stuff) and Spencer's has been reducing locations.
Doc_Crankenstein 9 points a year ago
Yea. The Hot Topic of today is nothing like the Hot Topic of 10 years ago.
It used to be a "counter culture" store but when the Mall era started dying they changed into a "pop culture" store trying to chase profits.
chrislowles 8 points a year ago
The longer Hot Topic sticks around the more likely they're gonna end up like the merch side of an EB Games (any Aussies will know what I mean)
Trainguyrom 4 points a year ago
I appreciate that they at least save the really "safe" stuff for their other brand Box Lunch, but they need to let Hot Topic be edgier
gandalf_der_12te 2 points a year ago
the problem is that how edgy they can (economically) get away with ironically depends on how hot the economy is running overall. wages are down and the population has depression, which makes the clothing less spicy.
samus12345 6 points a year ago
Burn down, down, burn down Hot Topic
abbiistabbii 38 points a year ago
The idea that the only Habitat of the Goth is the American Shopping Mall is a misunderstanding, as it is the habitat of the American Mall Goth. Here's some other places where you can find Goths:
- New Age/Witchcraft shops (The Witchy Goth).
- Metal bars/Nightclubs (The Metal/Tradgoth).
- Medieval/Victorian Old Towns (The Lesser European Dark Academic Goth, The Greater European General Goth)
- Second Hand Bookshops (The Greater European Dark Academic Goth).
- Museums (The Medieval Academic Goth).
- Glasgow Central Station (The Glaswegian Cathouse Goth, also sometimes hybridised with the Electric Trainspotter due to interbreeding).
ILikeBoobies 7 points a year ago
Visagoths?
captainlezbian 4 points a year ago
Rural Walmart has plenty of hick goths
You've also got the pain goths at bdsm events
PyroNeurosis 2 points a year ago
As a 'murican, are there Museum Goths of the New World?
abbiistabbii 3 points a year ago
No, this is mainly due to the different ecological environment and also the destruction of American History bar some of the nationalistic elements by the US government and Capitalism.
Turret3857 32 points a year ago
I know a lot of the reason people say malls are failing is the internet but I also feel like its due to rising inflation. The malls that still exist near me are so fucking expensive. Most of the stores you can't even get a T-shirt for less than $20.
Not to mention the privacy concerns. The local mall near me has banned face coverings and hooded jackets. I have no doubt's that somewhere along the line footage is being sold to data brokers
dylanmorgan 29 points a year ago
Don’t ask how I know but the one on the left is pretty insistent he’s a boy who just likes cute goth girl clothes.
DragonTypeWyvern 12 points a year ago
That just makes him a cute goth guyfriend
dylanmorgan 4 points a year ago
True that.
rumschlumpel 5 points a year ago
Well NOW I'm jealous. (I assume he's not lying, and doesn't do stuff like taking hormones or getting plastic surgery specifically for crossdressing)
Sergio 26 points a year ago
If you're in Europe, Castle Party is next week, Amphi Festival is the week after that, and then M'era Luna is in August!
If you're in the US.... uh... the Gathering is in August? I dunno, I've been posting tour info on !gothindustrial@lemmy.world as I come across it... (edit: see here for a collection of tour/festival dates)
ShittDickk 12 points a year ago
Gotta get a job at a coffee shop but not some corpo chain one of those fucks like black mud, or morning muck or some shit.
Zizzy 12 points a year ago
Sorry for the reddit link, but theyre being pushed into grocery stores!
abbotsbury 11 points a year ago
the idea that goth girls are dependent on a consumerist habitat feels offensive
abbotsbury 3 points a year ago
you don't need malls for hair dye and makeup, plus DIY goths always exist
malls tap into the goth demographic, not create it
thespcicifcocean 2 points a year ago
when was the last time you managed to set foot in a hot topic or spencers?
outhouseperilous 1 point a year ago
It provably did not. I make my own eyeliner. Hair dye is from a co-op.
sp3ctr4l 20 points a year ago
What happened was same day delivery.
On kind of a weird note, a kind of bright side... a number of former malls are basically being converted into... sort of really slapdash, improvised arcologies.
Most of the stores get resectioned and converted to basically apartments or condos, and sometimes a few are kept open as actual stores.
So... you can now, theoretically, be a goth girl who actually literally lives in a mall, possibly even directly inside a former Hot Topic or Spencers.
Here's Forbes laying out the case for this potentially making financial sense:
Ironically... the original intention of the guy that came up with the concept of a shopping mall... was that they would actually be much more like this, intentionally planned, walkable, largely self-sustaining, utopian communities, dreams of the 1950s/60s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Gruen
The mall was commercially successful, but the original design was never fully realized, as the intended apartment buildings, schools, medical facilities, park and lake were not built.
Yeah.
Malls were actually always supposed to be this way.
But we decided to build suburbs and highways instead, fundamentally missing the entire point, because Oil and Gas profits must go BRRrRr
chrislowles 3 points a year ago
The homely feeling some shopping centers/malls have make sense now, not surprised that was supposed to be the endgame.
Baggie 18 points a year ago
They've been dying for a while. COVID was a bit of a deathblow, but the rot was setting in way before that. A combination of online marketplaces becoming the norm, and the progression away from people ever leaving their houses really ate away at American malls over the past two decades.
I don't live in America, but I spent a decent amount of time on r/deadmalls back in the day and found the factors behind these monoliths crumpling fascinating.
Trainguyrom 3 points a year ago
Honestly my interpretation is that many of the malls that were either built in places they shouldn't have been or built too large are finally dying off but I've still been some absolutely popping malls as recently as last week
Basically any mall that continues to rely entirely on a big box store or 4 to sustain themselves is crumbling but those which have refocused on smaller stores are in much better shape
bdonvr 6 points a year ago
Most of them. Now the only ones around are the high-end ones in sizeable cities
I mean there's still a lot of old malls around but they're really pretty sad and most of the stores inside are dead or shuttered.
BigBananaDealer 4 points a year ago
mall of america is still packed pretty much everyday
outhouseperilous 2 points a year ago
Lol, truth dying under the weight of lies
RedFrank24 6 points a year ago
When I was growing up I knew exactly one goth, and he stank because he never showered. There were no goth girls, there were only grebs.
captainlezbian 5 points a year ago
Goths are still extant in bdsm clubs and certain bars
TanteRegenbogen 5 points a year ago
In winter, I turn into a goth enby or a dark mori kei enby
NigelFrobisher 3 points a year ago
The goths are all at Affleck’s Palace, as they always will be.
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