Mississippi's age assurance law puts decentralized social networks to the test
10 months ago by Nemeski to c/fediverse
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Bluesky is a small indie company. It can't afford to fight the law or implement the extensive age verification the law requires. So it chose to pull the plug and leave.
FB, X, etc, have a lot more resources to implement the extensive, invasive age verification Mississippi requires and keep fighting it in court until the decision upholding it is final.
Lol .... US law is becoming less and less relevant or meaningful as time goes on
Tbh my first thought was "ehh people can just vpn around it then" which is basically just saying its easily circumventable and i know no instance of legal issues for those that do.
Still a net negative for that state though and the more laws and circumvemtion becomes more common the more people are thrown into the precarius class (see immigrants in the US now).
and keep fighting it in court
> implying those neofash sites would fight against orders to tHiNk Of thE cHiLdReN
Why would it affect their bottom line other than positively? Corporations love fascism because it can make it mandatory for people to buy from them, among other things.
This is bullshit. It should be on mississippi to block the sites or require local isps to block them. The providers are on the internet and not going out to be in mississippi. Places should wall themselves off if they can't handle the internet.
yup but at least then they would be leading the charge for people to leave their state.
But the question is, what would be a reasonable legal principle for preventing such laws generally? Mississippi is going to pass bullshit laws, but it shouldn't be possible for the jurisdiction of any state to be anything on the entire internet.
In those cases it seems like the law does prevent state level regulation of those things, because the state is only allowed to regulate commerce happening within its borders, not what its residents do elsewhere (although they can still also regulate the use of fireworks and airguns, but enforcement is more difficult, for instance where I am they sometimes send out notices in the mail warning that it's against the law for individuals to be setting off fireworks but there's always a massive decentralized fireworks show every 4th of July anyway).
Somehow with the internet, the location of the server isn't the thing that matters, it's whose computer is accessing it and where that person and computer is located, and the liability is on the server not the user. IMO it should not work that way, because then every state with regressive politics has a stranglehold on the whole internet.
Psssshhhh!!!!! Get outta here with that solid logic, and critical thinking! We don't use reasoning in this country! We just cry and scream until everybody ELSE caves to the demands!
You're right. Imagine having to put more resources into Mississippi than Mississippi puts into anything.
How would other countries have responded if instead of building The Great Firewall, China had demanded each international company not allow Chinese citizens within China to access certain parts of their websites?
Yeah what you have at the end is sorta my thought line. You want to go all censorship at least get off your ass and do it yourself.
Has Mississippi lower the age restriction to 14 years old?
Just go away with age verification. You are breaking the internet with this non sense. Eg. Providing passports will only cause exploits and leaks, with all its consequences.
If you want to protect your children, then maybe the parents should protect them.
And good luck resetting your ID.
Just have age verification on an ISP-level at this point.
That's a little bit of a joke. But think about it. Kids don't just find Tiktok hidden among the grass. Their parents give them a phone, give them a computer, a data plan and a wifi password without any parental controls. Then they blame Tiktok when their child commits suicide (possibly had nothing to do with tiktok).
I think maybe have ISPs become the accountable ones. Have them automatically enable parental controls, or emit a second network for kids, and add a waiver to the settings when you go to disable parental controls absolving them of any accountability and placing it on the parents.
I really donβt want ISPs policing internet traffic more than they already do. I think youβre right though. Router level second network filtering that blocks VPNs. Block the kids MAC addresses from the primary. This needs to be on parents.
That same kid could go to a nudy video store and steal something. They could get into all sorts of 18+ physical stuff.
I don't understand. Does an instance hosted anywhere outside of this US backwater state have anything to fear from this? Why is Eugen being contacted all the way in Germany?
They're primarily in Germany but there is some US presence too. From the join Mastodon site:
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Have any of Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord implemented age-checks in Mississippi then?
If not, why is Bluesky the only one going dark there?
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