Dethroning lemmy.ml, lemm.ee rises as the second most active instance

3 years ago by MicroWave to c/fediverse

Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:

  • lemmy.world: 19516
  • lemm.ee: 3779
  • lemmy.ml: 2970
  • sh.itjust.works: 2355
  • feddit.de: 2293

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

BeanCounter 145 points 3 years ago
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JohnDClay 47 points 3 years ago

Also the name is top notch! And it's been pretty true to it too.

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Bebo 37 points 3 years ago

I like how the name can be read in 2 ways: shit just works and shh it just works!

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Wahots 4 points 3 years ago

I always read it as "shit it just works"

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danwardvs 5 points 3 years ago

There was a rough week or two there but it’s been good lately. Happy being a part of it though.

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BloodSlut 20 points 3 years ago

is there a canada based domain running under lemm.eh? because if not, there should be.

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can 22 points 3 years ago

.eh isn't an available top level domain

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fiah 16 points 3 years ago

an outrage!

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Strategy7276 5 points 3 years ago

I have never heard a better idea

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sj_zero 12 points 3 years ago

Tbf, depending on the region, that's just how the electricity is made. The fbxl network runs off of electricity generation made up of 86% hydroelectric and biomass, with the balance made up of wind, solar, and natural gas.

As I have repeatedly repeatedly said, with a geography of canada, the entire country could be 100% renewables in a decade or two if there was a real focus on hydroelectric generation that is presently powering entire regions, and it would make people's lives better in the process with plentiful inexpensive hydroelectric we would make electric heat the most competitive and thus would start offsetting burning fossil fuels for building heat which would have a massive impact on carbon emissions since buildings make up 25% of total emissions and most building heat is done with fossil fuels because electricity is too expensive and the costs are rising so people are migrating to fossil fuels even with the carbon tax...

But I digress...

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can 2 points 3 years ago

If it were hosted in Nova Scotia half of its power would come from coal. So I don't take it for granted

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freedomenjoyer 9 points 3 years ago

I'm confused why it says it is in the Netherlands

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can 2 points 3 years ago

I thought that was the French flag? I figured it got confused by the instance being bilingual.

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lud 2 points 3 years ago

It probably goes by ip only.

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Navarian 8 points 3 years ago

I do kinda love this name.

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spez 5 points 3 years ago

My people!

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thefool 2 points 3 years ago

Also two good reasons for me as well.

It's strange that it doesn't report a Canadian flag on the graphic in the post heading though. Looks like Netherlands?

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icepuncher69 2 points 3 years ago

Based

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Zeus 126 points 3 years ago

goddammit

i joined dxcomplex because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn't fold (and i liked the name);
then it folded so i joined .world because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn't fold (and i liked the name);
then it got massive so i joined lemm.ee because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn't fold (and i liked the name)

i'm starting to wonder if i'm cursed

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mapro 119 points 3 years ago

Wtf go away

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Zeus 27 points 3 years ago

but what if going away makes it worse? .world's downtime has only increased since i made my l.ee acct

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NerfHerder 37 points 3 years ago

Well then, please post where you're gonna go next so we can avoid your trail.

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Zeus 15 points 3 years ago

well actually, i did recently make a backup acct. on lemmy.dbzer0.com...

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puttybrain 19 points 3 years ago

Well that's not great for me then

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billygoat 22 points 3 years ago

Lol same, I joined FMHY first because I wanted in on a smaller instance. I now self host. Fool me once.

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timespace 15 points 3 years ago

Now you’ll fold when you’re damn good and ready!

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billygoat 7 points 3 years ago

Exactly 😂

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gridleaf 7 points 3 years ago

If you want an instance that almost definitely won't go under, sdf.org has existed since 1986 1987 and has an instance at lemmy.sdf.org

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Zeus 2 points 3 years ago

actually i almost went for sdf instead of l.ee. the reason i didn't was that it seems almost too good to be true? i see so many sites around that proclaim they're hosted on sdf, the biggest text on their homepage says "create a free account" and yet there isn't a donate button

i realise there's one on their lemmy instance, and i might choose them if l.ee does fold, but i felt like i was taking advantage of something meant for others

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MenacingPerson 1 point 3 years ago
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BeanCounter 5 points 3 years ago
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TheAndrewBrown 2 points 3 years ago

I get your point, but I think lemm.ee is still so much smaller than lemmy.world that it’s not much of a problem (at least not yet).

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Corgana 94 points 3 years ago

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purplemonkeymad 34 points 3 years ago

Considering how many startrek memes I see on lemmy, I'm surprised this was the original meme.

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brainfreeze 10 points 3 years ago

I don't care what anyone says I will always read it as start rek

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icepuncher69 8 points 3 years ago

Most of the times that i see this meme is always censured, they usually take out the part where the woman gets gropped. While i understeand why someone wouldnt whant to share something that contains sexuall harasment, i think its a little silly and very curious how its users self-censored themselvels with this meme, it its very unussual to find it like this in the wild.

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Corgana 8 points 3 years ago

In this version of the meme she's actually from an alien culture where it's considered rude not to kiss someone and squeeze their butt after accepting a medal. Their version of "bless you" after a sneeze.

I swear to god it's in the show somewhere look it up.

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icepuncher69 3 points 3 years ago

Which one? The new ones?

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vzq 2 points 3 years ago

Thermian argument best argument!

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kratoz29 57 points 3 years ago

We did it!

Wait that wasn't the point.

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Stoneykins 25 points 3 years ago

People seem to only want their accounts on "general use" instances that are already pretty popular.

Which is... bizarre. There is no downside to having your account on a more niche instance (as long as it isn't so niche that it gets turned off), and there are arguably disadvantages to having your account on a more popular instance.

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BURN 21 points 3 years ago

People want to be where people are. My guess is we’ll end up with a bunch of super instances eventually.

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rglullis 14 points 3 years ago

People want to be where people are.

This logic only applies in centralized platforms. In the case of the Fediverse, people are everywhere and anywhere.

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calavera 6 points 3 years ago

But here on lemmy itself we can see people gathering in just a few instances

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Ashtear 17 points 3 years ago

One big thing that hasn't changed from reddit is that lemmy instances are still based on an autocratic power structure. Whether or not your content gets seen or you get to see other content depends on the relationships between those leaders. That means choosing your leadership is of utmost importance, and I eventually settled on lemm.ee because it was the first instance I came across that both a) seemed like it had actual adults running the show, and b) was large enough for that leadership have already faced some challenges and have an established track record.

That's the downside to a niche instance.

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ininewcrow 2 points 3 years ago

That's the core of every problem that's occurred to every massive human social structure we've ever created in history.

We create systems, the systems become powerful, a small group of autocratic people naturally gravitate towards wanting to lead, the system is taken over by this small group, the system is corrupted, the system fails, the system ends .... then we start over again.

It keeps happening over and over again and the common denominator is human greed (either in the need to gain money and wealth ... or in the need to just want to gain power over everyone)

The only systems that last are the ones where everyone has an equal stake and a shared power structure. But it's a balancing game that constantly has to be monitored ... because once we stop being vigilant, some greedy idiots will naturally start taking over.

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Default 15 points 3 years ago

A slight advantage to big servers is the increase in anonymity on the backend. Given the server admins can do what ever that want. An admin on small server would no doubt be looking into who and where their individual users are. Big severs are more likely to become more population based. Doesn't really matter though I suppose.

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imsodin 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah no exact opposite for me: Big server means lots of user data making abuse of it more appealing and impactful. While an admin of a small instance having some fun digging through user internals would really do no harm (I don't believe that's a particularly typical hobby of small instance admins though xD ).

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lagomorphlecture 2 points 3 years ago

I wouldn't say no doubt. Some certainly would do that, others could have more integrity.

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nothacking 9 points 3 years ago

A good 40% of users are spread out on servers with less then 5% of the overall user base, but that is still a good 60% in the top 5 instances, considering how laggy lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are, I am surprised anyone stays on them.

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Myriadblue 5 points 3 years ago

Haven't noticed any issues, aside from the occasional down time on world.

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Cryophilia 8 points 3 years ago

Smaller instances take longer to load content from bigger instances.

I have a kbin account and a lemmy account, but I find myself more active on lemmy because it's faster to load new content.

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vimdiesel 3 points 3 years ago

hate to say it, but looks better too

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neutron 5 points 3 years ago

It's not easy to see the list of all communities in an instance you don't have an account. If I login and federate as user@example.com, I can see all the local communities inside example.com, but not others like lemmy.world. I don't mean individual posts or an individual community, I mean list of all instance communities. I think this is one of high priority issues to be patched.

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can 2 points 3 years ago

Some apps have that. As for the webui just go to the instances' site?

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neutron 1 point 3 years ago

Sure you can visit the target instance's website, but then you have to manually copy and paste !community@target.instance.

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Neon_Dystopia 4 points 3 years ago
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vimdiesel 3 points 3 years ago

it's not that bizarre; people want easy and people don't seem to really understand how it works so they'd rather go where the most people are or the one that is "trending".

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Phazei 2 points 3 years ago

I've found that sometimes old posts don't propagate to newer servers. So if you want to participate in a old thread, you need another account.

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Nerd02 1 point 3 years ago

The disadvantage of being on a small instance is that you could have an admin who is a fucking moron and ends up breaking stuff because they don't know what they are doing.

Sauce: am admin. am fucking moron.

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Sotuanduso 10 points 3 years ago

Aw man are we gonna have to move?

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kratoz29 8 points 3 years ago

If they ever defederate from piracy communities, yeah, but I don't think so, admin has a very anti defederate policy, so I see this scenario very hard to occur.

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Sotuanduso 6 points 3 years ago

Oh, I don't really care about piracy communities. I meant on the basis of it getting big.

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Draconic_NEO 55 points 3 years ago

This graph is actually wrong, lemmy.ml doesn't have open sign ups, it just appears to because the Lemmy software doesn't accurately distinguish between open and closed registrations, it only distinguishes between open registrations and application-based registrations. If registrations are closed it'll look just like they are open, but we'll just give an error message when you try to sign up which is incredibly deceiving.

I filed an issue to fix this discrepancy on their GitHub.

Another issue with this graph is that it shows lemmy.world as American but it's actually hosted in Finland.

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HellAwaits 46 points 3 years ago
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snor10 45 points 3 years ago

Woah, we grew fast!

lemm.ee has been consistently great for me, wonderful admin too.

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gsa4555 5 points 3 years ago

Once lemm.ee can host larger images, I believe this will become the best instance on lemmy

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vimdiesel 6 points 3 years ago

one of the reasons it's fast is because they limit image sizes which lower server load.

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ramble81 38 points 3 years ago

I chose ee over ml after what Mali started doing and that site could drop offline at any time.

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Mereo 59 points 3 years ago

The other .ml instances had a .ml free domain. Lemmy.ml paid for the domain so it's in no danger of losing it.

Edit: further proof that it is a paid domain:

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hunt4peas 9 points 3 years ago

That's great!

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cloudless 27 points 3 years ago

Who owns lemm.ee and why do people choose it over other instances?

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Navarian 71 points 3 years ago

Can't speak for others, but my decision to stick with lemm.ee stemmed from seeing how active the owner is, the minimal defederation and the bot & moderation policies meaning there are minimal bots, and I've yet to currently see much spam issues, which is nice.

Also helps that the owner Sunaurus is an active contributor to the Lemmy project as a whole, so we get patches and fixes relatively quickly.

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Lucia 49 points 3 years ago
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boredtortoise 31 points 3 years ago

When I tested different instances lemm.ee was quite small compared to the big ones. The main pros are technically fast and stable. It also federates comprehensively.

Edit: also remembered that it hasn't had any insane admin/rule situations that I've noticed

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Durotar 23 points 3 years ago

.ml doesn’t allow new sign ups.

It does, however one must know what is six minus two to get the approval.

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Blaze 14 points 3 years ago

That's new, they were closed for a while

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dudewitbow 4 points 3 years ago

They got aome of the most traffic during the migration, so it pulled itself off the instance list page i think for regiatration so that people would join other instances leveling the load

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SubArcticTundra 4 points 3 years ago

They were during the thick of the Reddit migration

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Nia 3 points 3 years ago
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Durotar 2 points 3 years ago

I guess I missed that. Then yeah, that affected the statistics.

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Sotuanduso 2 points 3 years ago

Do I qualify now? : )

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donut4ever 6 points 3 years ago
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barsoap 5 points 3 years ago

lemm.ee itself also doesn't allow porn but that's a "don't post it with your lemm.ee account" type of rule. I think it also gets filtered out of the all feed, but you can definitely subscribe to stuff over on lemmynsfw.com. Long story short porn is a bugger to mod and the legal situation when hosting (and uploading an image with a lemm.ee account would imply that) is never trivial, either.

Somewhat relatedly, image upload limits are also rather strict, 100kb, to avoid that becoming a resource hog.

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Lucia 3 points 3 years ago
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SubArcticTundra 1 point 3 years ago

It actually censors curse words too. I've actually come to like it though

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donut4ever 3 points 3 years ago
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lud 2 points 3 years ago

What? I have never seen any censored words on lemm.ee

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dditty 2 points 3 years ago

Also lemme.ee is not defederated from one or two instances that I want to access consistently which is why I made a new account there for my new main

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Metriximor 2 points 3 years ago

You sure about that? I just made this account a few days ago.

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Lucia 1 point 3 years ago
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SchizoDenji 27 points 3 years ago

Because it is more open and lenient in not defedereting and as a user i can choose which subs and instances to block.

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MicroWave 18 points 3 years ago
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cloudless 38 points 3 years ago

Thanks. Looking at the admin's profile, he seems to be very reasonable. I especially like this comment he made:

"Not sure if I actually have to justify removing soviet and/or nazi symbolism, but I have lived my whole life in a country on the border of Russia. My country been ravaged by both Nazis and Soviets in very recent history. I want to be clear that while I think criticising capitalism is totally normal and necessary, I am also extremely aware of constant Kremlin propaganda. Propaganda which is spread both in their media, but also crucially in online channels. Propaganda which includes things like downplaying horrifying actions of the soviet union, portraying their “enemies” (the west) in the worst possible light, and mixing in soviet symbolism wherever possible. I have no intention of allowing anything which resembles this propaganda to be spread through lemm.ee. If banning offending users does not work, then further steps will definitely be taken."

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maegul 6 points 3 years ago

Yep ... seems refreshingly and perfectly reasonable to me.

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Buffaloaf 4 points 3 years ago

My country been ravaged by both Nazis and Soviets in very recent history.

Poland?

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Nowyn 9 points 3 years ago

History fits the majority of Eastern European countries but yes as said they are Estonian. Actually, now that I think about it can't really think of any Eastern European countries that it doesn't fit at all.

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beltsin 7 points 3 years ago

Estonia I believe

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SpaghettiYeti 6 points 3 years ago
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jameseb 17 points 3 years ago path: 0 2784916 2785170 2787308 2787547, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 3
maegul 3 points 3 years ago

Good to see donations are keeping the place afloat!

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ReadyUser31 1 point 3 years ago

What is github sponsorship? Are they advertising on that note instance?

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GrayBackgroundMusic 25 points 3 years ago

Noooooooooooo. Don't get too big or that'll just paint a target on our server for the DDOS attacks!

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jetsetdorito 10 points 3 years ago

stop growing I don't want to move instances again 🫠

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rglullis 1 point 3 years ago

I see only two ways for this to stop happening:

  • Instance admins make a collective pact to close registrations if their instance reaches x% of the total active base, and only open again when this number goes down to x/2%. I think x=10 would be a good start.

  • Instead of donations, instances start charging for access after a certain number. This is what my instance is doing: the first 250 active users are free, after that payment is required.

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Demigodrick 23 points 3 years ago

They should probably add a % measure to that to show active users as a % of total users to give a more balanced look at active instances

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MicroWave 3 points 3 years ago
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oce 1 point 3 years ago

What is felt by users is the absolute number rather than the proportion.

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Sotuanduso 1 point 3 years ago

Why not both?

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oce 2 points 3 years ago

Because when you open and later refresh Lemmy, the quantity of new posts you will see, which gives an idea of Lemmy's activity, is proportional to the absolute number of active users, not the proportion of active users per instance.

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Sotuanduso 1 point 3 years ago

By why not both, I meant why not display both the number of users and the proportion of the total userbase. This does not seem to be an answer to that question.

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RickRussell_CA 22 points 3 years ago

Oh goody. There's a RickRussell_CA@lemm.ee and it's not me. And it's using one of my older profile pictures.

EDIT: 2023/8/29 update -- I posted to the lemm.ee support community and the admins decided to disable the account. Well done!

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walden 12 points 3 years ago

That's why we disabled the buy-sell-trade community on our niche instance. Nobody got scammed during the short time it was open, but if a username can be duplicated it makes scamming that much easier.

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ieightpi 12 points 3 years ago

Uhhhhh. Yeah this was always something I was worried about with multiple instances. Having multiple usernames run my different people. The @ at the end will be crucial for people keep them separate

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Drewfro66 9 points 3 years ago

You could always message an admin and ask them to transfer the account to you.

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MicroWave 9 points 3 years ago
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Efwis 6 points 3 years ago

The only bad part about the fediverse, imho, it’s hard to be the only one with your username. What makes it bad is a malicious user, that you may have pissed off somehow, start using your username in a smear campaign to hurt your reputation.

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GBU_28 23 points 3 years ago

The key is to not attempt to foster a reputation in anonymous social media

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Efwis 1 point 3 years ago

True. I try to stay anonymous. But that doesn’t work on all social medias. Take Facebook for example, they show all that info in your profile allowing haters to hate

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GBU_28 1 point 3 years ago

Facebook is not anonymous social media. It's spyware to the max

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Izzy 6 points 3 years ago

You are the only user with the username Efwis@lemmy.zip. Nobody else can have that username.

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sfgifz 5 points 3 years ago path: 0 2788938 2790460 2792815 2794348, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 2
Izzy 2 points 3 years ago

I don't understand the question.

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Efwis 1 point 3 years ago

This is true, just like I have an ml account too. But I wouldn’t put past someone to create another account on another instance with efwis and start some shit because I hurt their feelings. So far that hasn’t been an issue but there is a first time. Especially since the username doesn’t show what instance your’re on on the feeds

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LordBelphegor 20 points 3 years ago

Che, that means drama incoming.

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woelkchen 11 points 3 years ago

Che, that means drama incoming.

Beehaw hasn't been in the news lately...

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beltsin 19 points 3 years ago

lemm.ee best instance 100%

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Rai 3 points 3 years ago

Isn’t that the one that censors the word “bitch”?

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Navarian 11 points 3 years ago

I'm gonna go with no, since I'm reading it perfectly currently.

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Rai 2 points 3 years ago

Hmmm, maybe that’s .ml then.

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Rentlar 2 points 3 years ago

Are you thinking of beehaw.org?

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Rai 2 points 3 years ago

Nawh, I’m the instance had a “lem” prefix of some sort.

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AzuleBlade 0 points 3 years ago

100%

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Nowyn 0 points 3 years ago

I think the beauty of Fediverse is that the majority of people can find pretty amazing instances for themselves. I could say the same of mine.

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AzuleBlade 1 point 3 years ago

100%

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Durotar 16 points 3 years ago

Where's lemm.ee located physically?

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Navarian 33 points 3 years ago

This was asked in the lemm.ee discord and the answer given is below.

Ping times are low everywhere because the files we serve are hosted on globally distributed servers. So if you're in North America, you will download the frontend code (and images etc) from a North American server. But the backend is actually hosted in Germany

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originalucifer 15 points 3 years ago

"were using a rock bottom VPS out of germany with cloudlfare"

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Durotar 2 points 3 years ago

Do you know if personal data (like emails, IP addresses) is also distributed across the world? I mean, this is important from the privacy perspective. Different countries have different rules.

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w2qw 9 points 3 years ago

It's just using cloudflare. So likely your private data is just temporarily stored on the CloudFlare node in your region and in Germany.

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Navarian 2 points 3 years ago

Frankly I have absolutely no idea, I would encourage asking if you're concerned though.

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can 1 point 3 years ago

So which country's laws apply to user generated content?

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snake -2 points 3 years ago

Hmm hosted in Germany that’s not reassuring.

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MicroWave 7 points 3 years ago
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DingDongBell 16 points 3 years ago

I contributed! After lemmy world banning the piracy community

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Fantomas 8 points 3 years ago

That piracy community is a godsend. Thanks me harties from the bottom of me hearty.

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Metriximor 6 points 3 years ago

Yup same

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FinallyDebunked -1 points 3 years ago

what

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joyjoy 11 points 3 years ago

Oh boy, I can't wait until everyone defederares from us too. /s

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MalReynolds 11 points 3 years ago

Can We Not !

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Zoldyck 9 points 3 years ago

I switched from lemmy.world to the one I'm on right now. Runs smoothly, and there are like a dozen of us, lmao.

So if you're looking for a small instance that just runs smoothly, come say hi.

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transmatrix 8 points 3 years ago

Damn it, I chose lemm.ee as my backup account (primary is lemmy.world) as it wasn't the number two...

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idunnololz 2 points 3 years ago

The reverse Tinkerbell.

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swag_money 7 points 3 years ago

is there a way to transfer my account to another instance? lemmy.world for me is unreliable and slow :/

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nothacking 13 points 3 years ago

No, but there are tools that can automatically copy over your subscribed communities.

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CMahaff 14 points 3 years ago

I made one such tool!

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

I know there's also a python script out there and a new Android app that has active syncing. I don't have links handy to those on mobile.

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skadden 7 points 3 years ago

You lose comment history and all that jazz too but it's better than nothing. I'm not sure if devs plan to implement a way to do it but it's one of the reasons I decided to roll my own instance. Nothing more frustrating than using someone else's and losing access while they take days to get it back up.

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CrypticCoffee -6 points 3 years ago

They're quick when it comes to defederating lefties. Not so much with toxic right wingers.

In all seriousness though, some apps copy subbed communities. Having a backup lemmy is useful.

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can 3 points 3 years ago

I need more data on that first point. Everyone's defederation rationales and strategies have evolved over the last few months.

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CrypticCoffee 1 point 3 years ago

Exploding heads was slow. Hexbear was instantaneous.

Read the Hexbear defederation post if you want to see how subjective it actually was.

Don't get me wrong, commies are badly misguided, but they can hold a good faith rational debate.

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can 3 points 3 years ago

I think I'll have to see how quickly they make a decision on other instances in the future.

The hexbear defederation did seem odd to me since the rationale was the admins there reminding their users to follow other instances rules?

Idk, I'm glad I can still see hexbear comments. I may not agree with them but at least they appear more literate than the exploding heads users.

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A10 7 points 3 years ago

It is good for the threadiverse

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gsa4555 7 points 3 years ago

Nice! The only issue is the extremely small size limit of images, but still a great instance

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Draconic_NEO 6 points 3 years ago

I really wish they would increase the image size to at least 200 or 300kb to fit larger images. You can get around it by using external image hosting but you can't do that for banners and profiles.

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kenoh 5 points 3 years ago

oh no

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stappern 5 points 3 years ago
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Blaze 2 points 3 years ago

You might have to, it's been a while

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SubArcticTundra 1 point 3 years ago

What is that bug? My comment trees are a bit messed up so I might have it too

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Blaze 2 points 3 years ago

Cannot access directly a comment from the link

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JoMiran 2 points 3 years ago

Significantly less posts and comments when compared to ML. So, a lurkers instance?

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dsemy 17 points 3 years ago

It’s also much newer than lemmy.ml though.

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xtremeownage 15 points 3 years ago

less posts doesn't really matter. lol. Everything is federated.

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Lucia 14 points 3 years ago
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JoMiran 1 point 3 years ago

That makes sense

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yata 6 points 3 years ago

A lot of main communities (especially regarding technology, news and politics) are located in .world and .ml, so users from all instances will participate there.

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xtremeownage 0 points 3 years ago

clap

Another mega-instance is formed, with lots of people grouped together, to make a big target.

Perhaps one day, everyone will discover what "Federated" means.

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paraphrand 12 points 3 years ago

Well, it doesn't implicitly mean “survey all instances when making a new account and calculate where your additional account will average out the numbers.” 🙄

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CrypticCoffee 2 points 3 years ago

ee wasn't big originally, but it was one of the few instances that were big enough to not dissappear, run by a competent sys admin, and small enough to not be affected by the big instance performance challenges, while keep registrations open when many instances shut the door on newcomers. Basically, ee, sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world were there main options for people moving across. Their sensible stewardship has led to growth, and trust is why it has kept growing.

Federation means people can choose, and they do. It doesn't mean everything will be exactly the same size and stay small. An instance needs good sysadmin who will investigate issues an liase with dev teams to get them fixed. People will gravitate to those instances run by talented devs.

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xtremeownage 1 point 3 years ago

People will gravitate to those instances run by talented devs.

Eh, people gravitate to where everyone else is. Half of the fediverse doesn't realize federation means, you can read/post to most communities from most instances, bar federation issues. They see, OH HEY, Lemmy World has the most posts. I want to go where all of the posts are.

People RUN from instances, whenever the instance starts breaking, and the admins show their ineptitude. Either that, or when instances start clicking the defederation button too much.

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CrypticCoffee -1 points 3 years ago

How did ee, and sh.itjust.works grow? Because they were open. You have a short memory if you don't remember how many instances closed, during API blackout.

I didn't want to pick an instance that was running on a thinkpad that would get switched off when someone got bored.

Federation was confusing for many. Many used the join Lemmy website and options that were general purpose open instances that were English speaking and open were not huge. People made decisions in a short period of time and many went with world, ee, and sh.it. It isn't baffling. It is also no shock that people set up communities where they register and may be big enough to survive. Who would create a community that disappears in 3 weeks.

You painting users as brainless sheep does nothing more than give you some feeling superiority. Maybe your fragile ego needs that. I'll help if you need it. Congratulations, you're so smart and clever. More so than most. Thanks for stepping on your soap box and imparting your wisdom/red hot takes upon us.

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xc2215x -2 points 3 years ago

Good for them. Glad to see five different ones over 2200.

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