No we are a long way off from a 1.0 release yet.
Piefed uses Python which is faster for development but the language is slower. Lemmy is built on Rust. I appreciate some features Piefed has but I do wonder about its scalability.
I thought Rust was faster for basically every metric?
The entire advantage of Python is supposed to be ease of development, in exchange for slower code execution. It is especially bad in terms of multiprocessing, which Rust is great at.
As I severely lack expertise on back-end development I asked for clarification to the forbidden oracle (AI) but it also told me that Rust is faster. I am not sure whether you feel like debunking an AI comment but if this is false I would love to hear why because from my current understanding Rust is always faster (for back-end development).
AI response
That statement is technically false, but it contains a grain of practical truth that often confuses people.
Here is the breakdown of why that statement is misleading and where the misunderstanding comes from.
The Verdict: False
Rust is almost invariably faster than Python, even in IO-bound tasks.
If you have a web server handling 10,000 concurrent connections that are all waiting on a database (pure IO-bound), the Rust server will use significantly less RAM and CPU to manage those "waiting" connections than the Python server.
Why the statement is wrong (The Technical Reality)
The argument assumes that "IO-bound" means the CPU does zero work. That isn't true. Even in an IO-heavy application, the application server must do the following:
Event Loop Management
The server has to track which connections are waiting and which are ready to resume.- Rust’s async runtimes (like Tokio) are incredibly optimized and have near-zero runtime overhead.
- Python’s
asyncioloop has significant overhead because it is still running interpreted Python code to manage the tasks.
Serialization/Deserialization
When the database replies, the server receives raw bytes. It must turn those bytes into objects (JSON parsing, ORM model instantiation). This is CPU-bound work.- Rust does this near-instantly.
- Python is notoriously slow at object instantiation.
The GIL (Global Interpreter Lock)
Even if your code is async, Python can only execute one bytecode instruction at a time per process.- If 100 requests come back from the DB at the exact same millisecond, Python has to process them one by one.
- Rust can process them in parallel across all CPU cores.
Where the statement is "Practically" True (The Grain of Truth)
The person making that statement is likely conflating "faster" with "indistinguishable to a human."
If a database query takes 100ms:
- Rust overhead: 0.1ms → total response ≈ 100.1ms
- Python overhead: 5.0ms → total response ≈ 105.0ms
To the human user, 100.1ms and 105ms feel exactly the same.
In this specific context, you could argue that Python is “just as fast” as Rust because the bottleneck is the database, not the language. But it is incorrect to say Python is faster.
The "Fediverse" Exception (Why it matters for PieFed)
The statement "web servers are IO-bound" is often true for something like a simple blog.
It is less true for the Fediverse.
ActivityPub (the protocol PieFed and Lemmy use) involves two things that are heavily CPU-bound, not IO-bound:
JSON Parsing
Fediverse servers throw massive JSON blobs at each other constantly.- Python is slow at parsing JSON compared to Rust.
Cryptography (RSA Signatures)
Every time a server sends a message to another server, it must cryptographically sign it (HTTP Signatures). Every time it receives a message, it must verify the signature.- Rust handles crypto operations natively and extremely fast.
- Python relies on C-extensions (like
cryptography), which are fast, but the overhead of calling back and forth between Python and C for every single request adds up.
Conclusion
The statement is false.
- Rust is faster at raw execution.
- Rust is faster at handling high concurrency (even IO-bound).
- Python is only "faster" in one metric: development velocity – you can write the code faster in Python, but the code itself will not run faster than Rust.
Lemmy still has a bigger user base doesn’t it?
And boobs and wieners.
Doesn't matter to me, I'm still using the old reddit theme on .world and that's what I want to keep using.
Piefed or Lemmy, it's the same content, so you're arguing about either UI or philosophical differences (Lemmy devs are tankies or whatever).
I'd consider Piefed if they had an old reddit UI available, but that's never gonna happen and I absolutely cannot stand either Lemmy's or Piefed's UI.
Oh, I had made one for quokk.au a few months ago. It got lost during an update as I didn't bother to save it, I can probably whip another one up this weekend if I remember.
Edit: This was a wip screenshot I took. It was never 100% the same, but yeah.
Cool, well let me know if you do, I'll join up. I'm sure if you do there would be several dozen people who would be thrilled! 😂
Well, for one, the old Reddit interface's appeal is fairly limited in general. Most people use apps anymore, I feel like in general desktop users are not catered to even in default interfaces. Of people who do use the desktop, more of them are likely to be new(er) Reddit users who probably find the Lemmy/Piefed default UI to be superior to Reddit - but the pool of people who prefer old Reddit is dwindling, which doesn't usually lead to continuing support of things.
As it stands, few Lemmy instances have it and in any case it feels pretty fragile. It has broken a couple times and I think been fixed, but this has led instances to drop it altogether (dbzer0 used to have it, for example, but the lead said it was too much of a hassle and its devs weren't responding to his questions).
I'm fairly worried that 1.0 is gonna break it, tbh. It never gets any updates that I have noticed, and its functionality is a bit all over the place.
Well no, it's not just UI. Piefed has more features than Lemmy right now.
Fair enough if you're tethered to lemmy due to an old-reddit style UI, but it's not purely rooted in UI and ideology.
Yeah, sorry you're right, like being able to get feeds for small communities, and that sort of thing. But all the actual content is the same, is what I meant. Piefed doesn't provide any content that you can't get on Lemmy, just a different way to view it (UI) and organize it (features).
Chill its a meme
I don't like the devs but at the same time it's not like they wield much power over users outside of the flagship instance, lemmy.ml. That's the nice thing about decentralized FOSS social media. Can even make a fork if they ever did something unpopular.
But they administrate their flag ship instance, which for a long time was the first instance new users registrated on, only to then see on what power trips the Admins are on. The missing separation of development of administration is literally the only critic point I have. If course, Lemmy is decentralized and that is a great thing. Over time, lemmy.ml already lost relevance and it will lose more as lemmy grows. But people tend to think "oh, so this is the official instance I better join there", just to then face opinions promoting North Korea or denying Russia's guilt in the invasion of Ukraine and so on. Check out the media bias in Lemmy.ml's news communities, it is insane.
Check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for many examples.
Lemmy is fine though
except crazy authoritarian tankie leadership? It's just a matter of time until one of them goes wacky (again) and brings down the entire brand.
It's good to diversify here.
I'm out the loop. What's the deal with lemmy.ml? Has there been a controversy?
Communists isn't the problem.
Transphobic, genocide deniers are.
I don't care that they are communists, I care about how they are assholes. I don't owe assholes anything, certainly not loyalty. They are a toxic influence on the fediverse and should be marginalized. Maybe there was an argument that people should just let them cook when there was not alternative, but that is no longer the case.
That's just the tankie triad. there are lemmy instances that aren't run by nutters, feddit.uk for example
How different are the devs? Is it just a fork where they regularly pull the upstream lemmy? Or ground up?
This account is getting pretty old and about due for a nuking and dessalines seems to be speedrunning being the tankie musk (right down to surrounding himself with bot-friends). Lemmy is still good enough software but looking for an offramp if you catch my drift.
PieFed main devs support human rights.
PieFed is not a fork of Lemmy. It is a different software, but able to share content with Lemmy using the ActivityPub protocol.
For more info: https://join.piefed.social/features/
Piefed is unrelated at all, afaik.
They're a bit cavalier with development, though: when they recently rolled out the feature of posts having a ‘selected answer’ a-la StackOverflow, someone pointed out that the marker for the selected answer should be on the post's data structure, not the comment's, so a commenter can't hijack the marker — but the developer replied that they already moved on from that feature and won't be changing it.
Yes. Entirely different software. Different programming language and tech stack. Also different system requirements and feature set.
Not sure about the developer spirit. PieFed development has traditionally been moving crazy fast and it gets like several new features every month. I think that's a matter of focus. It comes with consequences, though. But I think overall the project is doing a good job with trying to be compatible to other software. Prioritizing important stuff and doing the right thing. Sometimes some things get done, rather than be 100% perfect. But past experience tells me things often get fixed or changed around once necessary. Not sure if that's a wise decision here. The JSON exchanged between the servers is probably extra work if changed around later.
To be clear: I don't give a fuck if someone identifies as communist. I disagree (more in the vicinity of demsoc, personally) but people have had more impractical ideologies.
The issue is that dessalines et al are very much tankies. People who will say and do whatever it takes to say that china and russia are correct because both of those countries used to identify as communist (how long either actually was is up for debate). And that tends to manifest as actively supporting the invasion of Ukraine and the state sponsored ethnic cleansing by, among other horrors, rape of (among multiple ethnic groups) the Uyghurs
I think the registration process and "official" app made piefed a more welcoming enrollment for people who are just casual users. Like, I had to explain a lot of shit to get my GF signed up for Lemmy. My grandma could sign up for piefed without much guidance.
In terms of what content you can see, the difference between Lemmy and PieFed is effectively the same as the difference between two Lemmy instances. As long as the instances federate with one another, it does not matter which platform you use. You can definitely interact with PieFed from Lemmy just fine. In fact, you are doing so right now! My account is on a PieFed Instance.
This meme is more making a joke about how relatively young PieFed is. Years back, a post to any community on the fediverse that got 20 upvotes was huge. But today, a post with 20 votes is basically nothing (depending in the size of the community). By the time PieFed came about, the fediverse was populated enough that a post with only 20 votes was nothing like a post with 20 votes in the olden days of Lemmy.
I thought we could easily migrate accounts between Fediverse instances and that that was a core feature of ActivityPub for preventing a single instance from dominating and effectively centralizing the Fediverse?
Does piefed not support account migration?
Hmm, only Mastodon is mentioned for this feature in the ActivutyPub spec... I'm not sure if it's the only service that has implemented this fully or if it's just the example used.
That's ashame, because account mobility is the most important tool for healthy decentralization. The reason Facebook or Twitter can "get away with" implementing such shitty policies and abusing their users is because the users are locked in, with a high cost to switching platforms.
The cost is highest for accounts like small businesses that live and die by social media marketing, once they have an established presence and successfully built a following on a platform, it is very risky for them to give that up and start over on a new one.
Migrate is a strong word, more like you can copy your settings, it's certainly not intrinsic to the standard either. Remember, your username includes your instance after all. I am not deeply versed but one of the better platforms was Mastodon and it was still limited to moving your settings and followers to your new account and setting the old one to forward. Posts weren't reattributed or anything though.
The strength of the fediverse is how the data is duplicated and how it's the sum of many parts, but maintaining an "identity" on the fediverse is still wobbly, some like that though, it leans into the privacy/anonymity side of things.
for you an average user you're not going to notice much in difference. you'll get more features with Piefed but otherwise you can still view and interact with each instance.
From an admin side/someone who runs their own instance Piefed is just so much better. lighter, easier to set up, run, and manage.
No real difference in core features. Its all the extras that make me happy.
I have been really enjoying the scheduled post feature. I can set up my shitposts to be automatically posted at the optimal time of day. For English communities, I find that to be about 9:30 AM USA time.
I do the same with !peertube@lemmy.world so I dont flood the community every day with videos.
Basically there are no differences, sure piefed has extra features but if you're a mobile user no client acturally supports them. Also piefed is newer, less stable, and gets updated more frequently (so the difference between instances is bigger)
Its not that the mobile clients are behind its that piefed has no mobile clients whatsoever, just a bunch of Lemmy clients that also happen to support piefed.
The limit between being a Lemmy or Piefed client gets a bit more blurry over time.
@moseschrute@piefed.social , would you consider Blorp a client for both Lemmy and Piefed, or a Lemmy client that also also supports Piefed?
Piefed isn't run by cringe tankies who have diminished the struggle of an actual revolutionary by soiling their namesake with the view from an air conditioned computer chair.
Also, piefed isn't run by cringe tankies who call trans people bourgeoisie western pink washing, and then goes around begging for donations as if we owe them anything besides scorn.
Another migration. I know I'm sure I'll be told I'm a ding dong, but all these migrations are the reason why decentralized social media will never be popular. Some probably think that's a good thing, but 90% of the posts here are the same person posting hentai.
I'll use the Casual Conversation community as an example. They started out on Lemmy.World. They had 6.7k subscribers. They moved to lemm.ee, which was shut down. Now they are at piefed. One of the biggest communities migrated multiple times and has lost almost 20% of the subscribers.
One could argue that this is the purpose of decentralized social media, but my point is that constant migration and evolution, while not exactly dubious, will keep casual users away.
Most of the initial communities made primarily on lemmy.world benefited from the initial flood of users joining from Reddit after the API fiasco. Most of them didn't stick around - but their presence on as subscribers on those communities still persists. It's a false number.
Subscribers aren't a great metric to determine community viability in many cases.
One of the biggest communities migrated multiple times and has lost almost 20% of the subscribers.
Subscribers are a poor metrics. Active users is much more relevant, and !casualconversation@piefed.social is as active as the previous versions used to be
That's fair.
Now we're talkin!
Yeah, I wish there was a good technical solution for this baked into the Fediverse. PieFed has some of that, you get some features for migrating communities there. But all of this is integral part of this place. We also have like 10 technology communities. It's not obvious what to subscribe to. Some formed due to growth and changed dynamics. Some because someone was against AI and someone else pro AI, and they split off and made yet another community with the same name. None of that is intuitive to newbies. You can of course subscribe to all of them but then you'll regularly get the same post 5 times in your timeline because it also leads to cross-posting and all kinds of things... This is by design, though. And it's difficult to design online platforms to be easy to use, cater to all people, grant freedom to everyone... I think we still got some room for improvement 😉
Once upon a time you needed GNUtella, freeseek, kaazaa, eMule, NZB, DirectConnect, FreeNet, and bittorrent. Give it time, if you can't tolerate being an early adopter. You will find this pattern throughout life, not just on decentralized networks.
Those were different times.
The average Internet user is a phone user who only knows apps.
I would say centralization might be required to reach Facebook like sizes but I'm not sure that is a valuable goal.
The times change but technologies still go through the same lifecycles. Nothing wrong with waiting for things to mature, though I'd rather accept some rough edges than accept getting sold as a product.
What I meant more is less that the technologies change but that the users have. Users were more tech savvy by nessessity.
There are plenty of people online now who would never have made it before.
you can just block the whole lemmynsfw instance
I did. I still get weird posts from time to time from different communities.
i don’t think i’ll ever understand how people can get off to drawings…
I will never understand it, as it's not my thing, but more power to them I guess.
The point of ActivityPub is that you don't have to migrate your account to be part of any shiny new social media platform. You can just stick to lemmy and interact with piefed communities/posts/comments without even knowing about it, just like this post here (it was posted by a piefed user and you're viewing it on lemmy).
I understand you don't have to migrate your account. You do have to migrate the community though. Which caused a 20% decrease in members.
In an ideal world, and I know this is the end-game - Piefed does plan to support total community migration between instances. Ie a piefed.social community could move to piefed.ca and maintain all of its posts, comments and subscribers. Communities would be modular.
Lemmy wouldn't recognise this though, and I doubt that would ever change.
At some point in the future I will also have time to implement community migration for Lemmy. In theory it's not so complicated, but there are lots of other things to do.
What you don't like my furry feet fotos pics?
I don't dislike them. I hate them. I HATE YOU
Can't please everyone! But you'll really, really please some of them
It has polls, it supports push notifications so phone apps can immediately tell you about notifications, you can write remarks about users that will be shown to you only next to the user's name, and what I actually find the biggest usability improvement is that I can turn on notifications for any post or any community so that if anyone writes anything to that community, I get a notification. That's awesome with groups that get like one post every two weeks but where those few posts are all very interesting!
Some people also like that you can group a bunch of communities into one feed that you can view as if they were together just one community. Meaning, if there are copies of the same community on five instances, you can opt to merge their content when viewed from your user account.
In what way does it feel jank, in your opinion?
I've personally been happy with it, and I would guess the maintainers are used to the way it works and might be blind to things you notice! But, there's a real good chance that if you can point out specific details that could be improved, they indeed will be improved. At least they've done awesome job handling suggestions I've made!
I think just general UI stuff across at least the homepage
- Some buttons that wrap touch each other
- There's a banner at the top (since I don't have an account) that has weird, off-center margins
- When I first went to the site I guess the Explore dropdown didn't load so it was an empty dropdown (though it's now populated so that may have been a one off network request issue)
- If I have scrolled down the page a bit, every time I click an item in the main nav (like Explore) the page scrolls up by about 15 pixels for some reason
- The Piefed logo isn't horizontally centered with the actual nav items so the text doesn't line up correctly
This is obviously using Bootstrap to handle the UI, and that's fine. I'm not knocking that necessarily. But it's a little jank and rough around the edges. These are things I noticed in, like, 30 seconds.
And this isn't to say that Lemmy.world is perfect or anything. And I don't really use the desktop site for Lemmy. I just use Voyager on my pc. But even the Lemmy site feels a little more solid, if that makes sense (even if Lemmy.world is also using Bootstrap).
I was only able to reproduce one of these with some local testing (the not-logged-in banner). What browser are you using? As for the Explore dropdown (and most dropdowns in the web ui), they use htmx to populate, so if there is a network hiccup, then it will just show up empty. Lastly, I believe you on the buttons wrapping weird. I have caught and fixed a lot of those in my time contributing to piefed, so would always appreciate help identifying where it is happening.
A big priority for rimu when making piefed is to keep the request size small to accommodate very poor network connections. From talking with him, he has historically had to deal with extremely tenuous internet access in the past and wants to be able to still function in those environments (a user setting can also enable low bandwidth mode to disable things like images). That is just really hard to do using the javascript frameworks that a lot of modern web interfaces use these days. So, we have compromised and sprinkled in some interactivity where it makes the most sense using tools like htmx or vanilla javascript. However, it can make the site feel a bit like internet 1.0 at times.
With the piefed api maturing, there is now the option to simply use an alternative frontend (photon, blorp, etc.) or a mobile app (voyager, interstellar, etc.) instead. The main area of the site that we have not included in the api is the admin area, so managing things like defederations would still have to be done through the web UI.
Thanks for the feedback!
Incredible optimization! I don’t think Blorp will ever be able to deliver a web experience as low data as the official UI. However, if you download Blorp (or any of the other apps) then you no longer have to send frontend code over the network. The only data that needs to be downloaded at runtime is API requests. Suddenly the network usage looks a lot more similar to the official UI (though I should test to confirm).
I believe the origin is a portmanteau of python (the language piefed is written in) and fediverse. The pie imagery is more for fun.
Fun fact, the dev server that lives at the bleeding edge of the codebase is called crust.
Oof. Lemmy as a decrepit grandma is a bit unkind.
Without their pioneering work in the early quiet days and absorbing the first wave of reddit refugees, PieFed wouldn't have anything to glom onto and build from so there is a symbiosis going on.
The grandma was an exceptionally agile and good-looking woman in her youth, indeed! She was also pioneering a lot of things the following generations are now enjoying! But she's nevertheless of the previous generation now.
I looked into making yet another account, this time on piefed, but didn't like the automatic blocking of a few communities. Yeah, I'm a massive hypocrite because I argued hard for the defederation of maga.place from sh.itjust.works, but since coming to lemmy.today I don't like the idea of automatic defederation where the users don't have input.
Are there any piefed instances that don't block anything? Or, is there a way for me to befriend everyone on my account?
Disclaimer: I checked into piefed shit again and this unexpectedly turned into a whole thing.
I found this here https://join.piefed.social/features/ :
Default Blocks – Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and Nazi instances are blocked out of the box.
Does that mean they can't be unblocked? And now I'm seeing:
Authoritarian Inoculation – Feature to reduce the impact of authoritarian propaganda.
That gave me pause, not because I want to promote authoritarian propaganda, but I'm concerned about someone else deciding what's authoritarian.
And:
Low Reputation Indicator – Identifies consistently downvoted users.
This feels like karma. I'm alright with rule-breaking stuff getting deleted and people getting banned for bad behavior, but I don't think people should be flagged for consistently going against the popular narrative. If they're being assholes users can report them.
I found this here https://join.piefed.social/features/ :
Note how that link points to PieFed.social. Yes, those are defederated at the instance level, so a user cannot work around that - Lemmy defederation works the same way. However, PieFed.zip is a separate instance from PieFed.socual, and does not defederate from much at all.
Low Reputation Indicator
I find that feature very helpful. It's merely a visual indicator placed next to the username, which is very different than the software making decisions for me on what content to show or not, and that indicator helps clue me in that responding to e.g. an argumentative person is unlikely to enhance my day. Also while I don't recall the details on how it is set, imagine if you will that someone receives 10x more downvotes total than upvotes. Such an account is usually a troll. Most people get downvotes occasionally, but that would not trigger the indicator to be shown (and again, even if it somehow did, it's just a visual icon, not a block or anything).
Lemmy is FAR more known for authoritative censorship than PieFed. Particularly those instances mentioned like hexbear and the infamous lemmy.ml where you cannot criticize Russia, China, or North Korea without being banned from every community on the entire instance including those you've never even heard of.
The link doesn't point to the instance, that's the main blog/info site for piefed.
Either way my question about blocking was answered, now I know the block list isn't baked into piefed itself.
I don't agree with the low rep feature. There are rules, reporting and blocking available moderate communities. If one user doesn't want to interact with another for non-rulebreaking reasons, they can block them, tag them, or just not respond. This just opens up new reasons to manipulate votes and downvote unpopular opinions.
I'm on Lemmy.Today, so I disagree that it's authoritative. This instance doesn't block/isn't blocked by any instance, and allows all opinions that aren't bigoted or insulting. There's a whole spectrum of vibes across the instances but there's nothing authoritative about the Lemmy ground rules.
Check instance federation/block of piefed.zip
What if I want to get to know the good people of cum.salon, or yggdrasil...
spoiler
No LGBTQ. Period. No homosexuality. No men who think they're women or women who think they're men. No made up genders. That goes for both users and posted content. For the record, traps are gay and will not be tolerated.
I stand 100% corrected.
Thank you.
Whoa. I had to look it up. I'm guessing these dudes really strongly don't wanna see a black dude make love to a white woman or visa versa.
This is also impressive:
In general, if it's something that would have gotten you in trouble a hundred years ago, you shouldn't be posting it. If you have to ask, don't post it.
In year 1925 you could already get into big trouble in some western countries if you talked too positively about Jewish people. Should people not post anything positive about Jewish people on that instance? Or is it okay until year 2032? Also, I've understood that in year 1925 you could get into trouble if you talked strongly against vaccinations. Do they forbid anti-vaxxer posts on Yggdrasil?
Maybe I'm being picky but I see no reasons for defederation listed on that page. It'd be helpful information to have
giving a shit about "upvotes" seems like such a reddit thing to do.
I'm here for replies and conversation and yes...sometimes getting into arguments with dickheads (and...I'll be honest...sometimes being said dickhead when I'm having a bad day)
I don't actually care how many internet strangers are giving me made up internet points or not. It's always just seemed to me to be vacuous and silly as something to "chase"
I get that. I just mean that I don't spend time trying to tailor an answer to try to get the most number of upvotes. I'll say what i want to say, and if people want to upvote me for it or downvote me for it makes no difference whatsoever.
Not always!
reddit now will monitor upvotes in thier filters, too much too fast would result in a probably shadowban/permaban, because it assumes you are botting.
Best thing about this place is you can remove karma entirely from your user experience. I don't see any count at all
Two uppies are enough. I made one person smile/chuckle/think/poo in terror/hungry. In terms of bad fables "it made a difference to that one"
If you got two up votes, I'd wager at least twenty people also viewed your content without down voting. That's a big win.
the latest feature I've found is that when an admin deletes your account on their end it produces a 'not found' page, overall the software seems much better at filtering out dissent- ironic considering a primary complaint they have is 'authoritarian developers' influencing the software in some nebulous way
the way it works on lemmy there's still some transparency, for example you can still see that the account existed, and has had posts removed by mod so you can figure out the context lemmy has it's own issues too, like the fact that you can't see the removed posts; iirc they're planning to change that.
in fact on piefed, if you wanted to review the modlog to see who has been getting account deleted, it doesn't let you see beyond page 1
the next button resets the search
Thats fair, but I don't make exceptions for that alone. We're talking about advocates of widespread war and dictatorships.
Thanks for this post. Found my way into a PieFed account because of it. I find the user experience to be much more pleasant indeed. Especially for finding communities across instances and searching for posts/comments in general.
Welcome! Feel free if you have any questions, there's !piefed_help@piefed.social
At the 1 hour mark:
Lemmy votes are more valuable because there are fewer of them.
Fewer votes
Lemmy's 'Create Post' page includes an automatic search within the specified communities for posts with similar titles and descriptions. This is extremely helpful in preventing similar items from being posted again and again, helping save valuable time for mods and admins.
Piefed doesn't have this.
That's basically the only feature keeping me on Lemmy at this point.
Piefed has had that feature for a while.
Which Piefed instance were you using?
Edit: you mean titles and descriptions, not URLs?
@rimu@piefed.social how difficult would that be to implement?
Yeah, I was about to reply like you - but realised they meant similar titles rather than URLs. I do think it should be time-limited though.
ie: If I make a thread "What's your favourite obscure series?" on TV, that someone posted it 2 years ago in some other community isn't very relevant lol
I thought piefed was a lemmy instance
Different software on the same protocol
That's so cool. This place is so freaking cool.
It certainly has a lot of potential
I have a piefed account and maybe someone can tell me if I'm doing something wrong, , an instance thing, or if it's a piefed thing, or a weird glitch, but I stopped using it because it kept force-following hundreds of communities for me. When I unsubscribed it would instantly re-subscribe me to them and then add more random communities. I like to be able to scroll by both all to view new stuff but also subscribed and just see stuff I'm interested in, not have my subscribed communities be hundreds of communities with tons of topics I have absolutely no interest in. It was things like niche sports teams, communities for towns on the other side of the globe from me, or stuff like hobbies or TV shows I've no interest in. There was no way to filter it to show things I actually cared about. I haven't logged in in months because I got so frustrated. I feel like an old person who can't figure out this new fangled tech. I'm 99% sure I wasn't hacked either because I could hit unsubscribe, refresh, refresh again, and it would re-subscribe.
Okay, so you're the second user who has mentioned this today. You're right in my opinion.
I've specifically directly bought this up in conversations about this. Don't worry. I don't think the auto-subscribing to all the communities in a topic is a good idea.
A new piefed.social user is presented with topics that they select an interest in. Each topic is a feed made by site admins, with specific communities in them. Some feeds can be quite large. It currently auto-subscribes you to each community in a feed. So if you pick multiple interests, you can get a very large subscription list. I will forward this on to emphasise my point.
Check here and see if you're subscribed to the topics here. Unsubscribe from them.
Ooh, thanks, I will have to look at that list when I get a minute. It's weird, because most of the stuff I'm subscribed to is stuff I have no interest in and never would have checked a topic saying I am, so I'm curious to see what topics those communities would be related to that I might have clicked interested in. For example, it kept subscribing me to so many sports communities like basketball and football and I have zero interest in anything to do with sports, but I might have clicked an interest in something like outdoors or hiking.
Piefed is awesome. Switched over and haven't looked back.
As just someone who browses all on lemmy.world and comments occasionally is there anything better about doing the same on piefed? I don't feel like my experience is lacking, except that sometimes images load slowly depending on the instance. And I don't think there are native videos, or at least I see very few of them.
Afaik lemmy.world doesn't have image proxying enabled, so your browser/app has to connect to other servers to load images. If you use an instance which has this enabled it's probably faster.
Oh, interesting! Thanks for the info.
Piefed has poll functions, post scheduling, events, custom feeds, filtering options, flairs, hashtags and many moderating QoL tools. It also groups crossposts into single threads.
A user might not notice most of this if none of it directly appeals to them, although mods absolutely would.
- crosspost comments consolidation
- built-in keyword filters
- personal feeds
Native videos work: https://piefed.ca/comment/2496066
Is there a piefed app
Like Lemmy, there is no official app, but plenty of unofficial apps. I suggest Thunder or Voyager
Jerboa, like the rodent
Thunder’s been fucked a couple of weeks. Unless you like marking random comments as read in your inbox, and 5GB of App Data filling your storage for some reason.
A fix to that inbox issue was just merged, and should be implemented in the next release
https://github.com/thunder-app/thunder/pull/1981
And on Android, at least, you can clear the app's cache whenever you want when it fills up, from the system settings app.
Is there no bewbs or NSFW instances on piefed though? Like not even available to view through Federation. Or am i missing something?
I thought that instances run by the fedihosting folks (that are behind .world) don't have a no porn rule iirc. Don't know whether you can subscribe to the lemmy boobycomms via piefed.world though. I think in principle the protocol allows it if the piefed instance hasn't defederated from the lemmy boobyinstances. Ymmv.
which nsfw piefed instances?
They don't have to be Piefed: https://piefed.zip/c/lemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com
Piefed was super slow it should be an image of a senior outrunning the kid with asthma.
Took more than 60sec to load images or video. Maybe the instance was at fault but my experience wasn't great so far.
Took more than 60sec to load images or video.
That's the instance one way or another. Media needs to be accelerated via content delivery network on all platforms or you get speeds of the web in the 90's. You can get by pretty easily with a handful of users, but most instances get hamstrung pretty quickly if they don't offload the media to a caching service.
The instance that runs the piefed acct I frequent has database problems, I've only put a few dozen comments in there, and loading my profile takes almost a minute. Loading actual media there is fine through.
It kills me because the one thing I do is go back to things I've posted and look for more conversation on posts that people make on my posts.
Early lemmy ran into a lot of scale issues too until everyone started running CDN and moving their job runners and database off the webserver and in some cases run multiple servers with a load balancer.
Is there a way to get the piefed feed to not be giant expanded card view and instead more like a list view? It was bad enough for me when the functionality of old lemmy stopped working on my instance (I guess I could make a .world account as it still seems to mostly work over there), but the 1 post per screen style of piefed drives me crazy.
Points? What is this, Reddit?
Tbh even on that level Lemmy was hitting those numbers before Piefed released, and it sure seems like a lot of the Piefed posters are just old Lemmy posters who prefer it.
What I'm getting at is, we don't have a karma counter. Who gives a puke about "points" on this platform?
People chasing dopamine hits
Is there an iOS app for PieFed?
I suggest Thunder or Voyager on Android, and I know they both have an iOS version. Here is more info about PieFed apps: https://piefed.social/...
Awesome, thanks
I like being on lemmy and I've managed to find piefed instances I have subscribed to so they're part of my feed, but can anyone tell me if it's possible to view piefed instances in my "all" view that I'm not subscribed to? I want to be seeing eveeeerything! Thank you!
I feel like they should appear automatically in that case, but they're not.
Ah OK, maybe that's it - thank you!
I think from the start, the very beginning, Lemmy had bots doing 20 to 40 upvotes on brand new posts spouting Russian Propoganda.
Its really trivial to set up in decentralized networks like this.
@feddit.uk
Memes about the Fediverse.
Rules
General
- Be respectful
- Post on topic
- No bigotry or hate speech
- Memes should not be personal attacks towards other users
- We are not YPTB. If you have a problem with the way an instance or community is run, then take it up over at !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
- Addendum: Yes we know that you think ml/hexbear/grad are tankies and or .world are a bunch of liberals but it gets old quickly. Try and come up with new material.
- This is not the place to start flamewars between Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed.
Elsewhere in the Fediverse
Other relevant communities:
go to feed...
@feddit.uk
Memes about the Fediverse.
Rules
General
- Be respectful
- Post on topic
- No bigotry or hate speech
- Memes should not be personal attacks towards other users
- We are not YPTB. If you have a problem with the way an instance or community is run, then take it up over at !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
- Addendum: Yes we know that you think ml/hexbear/grad are tankies and or .world are a bunch of liberals but it gets old quickly. Try and come up with new material.
- This is not the place to start flamewars between Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed.
Elsewhere in the Fediverse
Other relevant communities:
go to feed...
Lemmy is fine though what are you on about
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