Reject modernity. Embrace tradition.

3 years ago by wsis to c/memes

edit: Don't do this. Embrace modernity and don't pollute the soil.

casualhippo 231 points 3 years ago

I'm sure there will be people that take this seriously lol, PSA to others don't do this. It fucks up the land and nearby water sources as it spreads out. In the US you can be forced to replace the contaminated soil

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Dasnap 82 points 3 years ago

I just drink mine before pissing in the gravel hole.

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CreeperODeath 9 points 3 years ago

Damn it I came here to also make a oil drinking joke lmao

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KnightontheSun 72 points 3 years ago

When I was a yout, they had trucks with a huge tank and a sprayer on the back. The truck would drive all the country roads spraying the dirt with waste oils. This was done to keep the dust down. Smelled terrible. Miles and miles of dirt roads that ran all around by rivers and lakes.

It is crazy to think about that now.

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Uranium_Green 37 points 3 years ago

I'm sure you know this, but that's exactly how a town got turned in to a EPA superfund site due to Dioxin contamination, because of a fuck up over chain of command for waste oil from the creation of napalm or pesticides(IIRC?). The guy running the spraying business didn't know, which I can believe, but the company that paid for him to dispose of it should've informed him.

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intelati 4 points 3 years ago

I forget the name, but it's (one of the towns?) is by STL in Missouri...

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JJROKCZ 12 points 3 years ago

I assure you they still do that, source: my dad still lived on a back country road that they regularly tarred until they finally paved it about two or three years ago. When I lived there I hated when they did it because I had a white car and didn’t want all the oil on it since it was so hard to wash off and I had to go to the car wash every time I left the house

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Serinus 21 points 3 years ago

I was reading about one where the oil was contaminated with some truly terrible shit, dioxin maybe? Several people died. They turned that whole area into a Superfund site.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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wildbus8979 8 points 3 years ago path: 0 2922738 2923098 2923760 2924041 2925098, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 1
sbexpert 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah it was dioxin. Terrible shit. A couple months ago I went down a deep rabbit hole reading about that incident and so many other completely preventable environmental disasters. Another crazy one was Love Canal, a toxic waste dumpsite that sold the land and a school was almost built directly on top of it. They decided to build the school a tiny bit to the North. Predictably, the land sunk down and filled with rainwater, that children started to play in.

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oatscoop 1 point 3 years ago

Sounds like chipcoat. The "tar" is bitumen, not waste oil -- basically asphalt minus the crushed rock aggregate.

It's messy as hell but no more toxic than regular asphalt.

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socsa 9 points 3 years ago

There are still places which basically make rural roads like this. They spray down a layer of heavy oil and then scatter small rock chips and recycled asphalt on top of of the sticky layer to make a roadway. Obviously it's not suitable for heavy use, but it's way faster than actually paving the surface.

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KnightontheSun 15 points 3 years ago

Chip sealing! I know the process as they still do this for neighborhood streets around here. The oil is more like a tar and solidifies as it cools thus 'gluing' the chips to the older road surface. Sort of a stopgap before having to repave completely. I don't think this is done on dirt surfaces as it doesn't seem workable.

This process is pretty different than what I described originally. The dirt roads only hold those oils for a relatively short period.

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SwampYankee 6 points 3 years ago

Highway engineer here. It's asphalt (or bitumen), which is a product of crude oil refining. It's all the stuff that stays at the bottom when you heat crude up to over 1000°F. Because it's so sticky & viscous, it has to be heated up to around 300°F in order to be used. Asphalt is the "binder" in a pavement mixture that includes silt, sand, and rocks in various quantities and sizes, and these days the asphalt binder is usually modified in some way to improve its performance in the climate or application it's going to be used in.

A chipseal is made by spreading a continuous layer of small rocks on a prepared surface and spraying the hot asphalt over it after, which binds the rocks together. It's similar to Macadam pavement which was developed in the early 1800s and continued to be used well into the 1900s, often as a base layer for a more modern hot-mix asphalt pavement. Tar used to be used in paving a lot, but tar is made from coal and environmental regulations don't allow it anywhere that I know of. There's also a more state of the art technique that involves a looser layer of slightly larger stones, sprayed with a modified asphalt emulsion (modified in this case meaning with rubber or polymer for elasticity, and emulsion meaning it's mixed with water to make it easier to work with), called a stress-absorbing membrane interlayer, used for reducing reflective cracking from an existing pavement surface into a new overlay surface. Modified asphalts & emulsions are often used for chipseals these days, too.

Lecture over.

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RedEyeFlightControl 6 points 3 years ago

Our neighborhood was just done via this method. Usually called tar and stone. Quickly resurfaces the road without all that pesky work. It's like asphalt glue that cools and then solidifies over days/weeks.

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TWeaK 7 points 3 years ago

They still do that on sites with dirt tracks that get dusty. Only, they spray with water.

It's pretty shitty and foul smelling water, mind.

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collegefurtrader 6 points 3 years ago

Calcium chloride I bet

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N0_Varak 3 points 3 years ago

Magnesium chloride also works well as a dust suppressant. I used to manufacture the stuff

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nik282000 1 point 3 years ago

Many moons ago, my family went to a cottage every summer where they would oil the roads to keep them from wearing. I'm not sure what it was exactly but it was for sure a petroleum product by the smell.

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Subverb 6 points 3 years ago

What is a "yout"?

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girl 6 points 3 years ago

youth

edit: I did not recognize the reference 🫠

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Agent641 -1 points 3 years ago

Funny username

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TropicalDingdong 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 2922738 2923098 2923435 2925585, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 3
Subverb 3 points 3 years ago

I was quoting the movie. 😂

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PipedLinkBot 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 2922738 2923098 2923435 2925585 2925600, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
wintermute_oregon 2 points 3 years ago
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luckyhunter -3 points 3 years ago

Now they just dump on waste vegetable oils or thousands of gallons of salt. So progress?

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billy_bollocks 11 points 3 years ago

The solution to pollution is dilution

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RegularGoose 10 points 3 years ago

I was told the solution to pollution is to ship it to Asia so the poors there have something to root around in for treasures.

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reverendsteveii 1 point 3 years ago

Why ship it across the world when you can buy government regulators at half the price and then dump your waste right into the river?

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vector_zero 5 points 3 years ago

pours water over soil

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wintermute_oregon 6 points 3 years ago
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wolfpack86 2 points 3 years ago

I think your dad was behind the times. Mine collected and disposed of the oil properly at a waste station

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nik282000 5 points 3 years ago

God damned roofers spilled gas on my lawn. I had to dig down almost a foot to get rid of the contaminated soil.

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vsis 4 points 3 years ago

edited.

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reverendsteveii 116 points 3 years ago

Boomers: Why don't you kids go outside and play. When I was your age we played in the dirt for hours at a time.

Also boomers:

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EmoDuck 30 points 3 years ago

Boomers: Kids these days think they can get through life by taking shortcuts

Also boomers:

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Techmaster 19 points 3 years ago

I've had boers tell me that as kids they would pick up balls of tar from the street and chew it like gum

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Fizz 90 points 3 years ago

Put oil back where it belongs, in the ground!

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vsis 82 points 3 years ago

So it can be extracted again. True carbon neutrality.

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eezeebee 25 points 3 years ago

The circle of life

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CaptainBlagbird 6 points 3 years ago

And life's a jerk

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Track_Shovel 83 points 3 years ago

I mod !soilscience@slrpnk.net

I will mail you one of those jack in the boxes with boxing glove in it if you do this.

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ggppjj 25 points 3 years ago

But the bone juice come out the dirt make out of holes why not bone juice back into ground for more juice later?

Recycle bone juice to dirt?

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Track_Shovel 16 points 3 years ago

Bone juice kills the green things and the moving things. There is a reason they aren't making more bone juice. All moving things that had it have died.

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ggppjj 12 points 3 years ago

Ah! AHHH! GRUG FIND SMART SCIENCE NOT THINK! Green thing not have bone and it die too? How green thing die if no bone?

Uno, atheists.

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SendMePhotos 12 points 3 years ago

Do I have to prove that I do it, or can you just mail one to me?

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Track_Shovel 15 points 3 years ago

Shipped.

3-5 business days.

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propaganja 6 points 3 years ago

Your punctuality disturbs me.

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rmuk 8 points 3 years ago

More like punchuality! Amirite?

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LongbottomLeaf 10 points 3 years ago

Subscribed.

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Track_Shovel 4 points 3 years ago

Amazing! Hope to see you arounf

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Kotsi3P0 64 points 3 years ago

Tradition is to save it and use it as a wood oil so the wood will not decay after some time on the rain. Absorbs really good, doesn't stink or stick...

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zakobjoa 62 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but there's stuff for that that doesn't give you eleven different cancers.

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Kotsi3P0 51 points 3 years ago

Ah yes, to get cancer is also very traditional, forgot to say that.

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GBU_28 10 points 3 years ago

Most of those are also pretty nasty chemicals

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zakobjoa 3 points 3 years ago

There's a lot of plant based oils you can use, without additives, that give excellent weather protection. Choice of wood is also a huge factor.

Tbh I'd rather replace my fence every five years than cake it in used motor oil.

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Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR 1 point 3 years ago

I'd rather spend $2 on diesel and free used oil than thousands replacing my fence constantly.

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PersnickityPenguin 2 points 3 years ago

I'm pretty sure all of it will give you cancer.

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qyron 19 points 3 years ago

Was about to mention that. But you forget to mention the half-and-half mix of oil and diesel to prevent wood rot and insects.

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Kotsi3P0 5 points 3 years ago

If you got a very thick oil, yeah a mix of diesel and oil is good so it would lose on viscosity and would be easier to get it on and into the wood. But today's engine oils are not really that thick and can be used without any mixing with oil of lesser viscosity such as diesel. Nowadays you can find those very thick oils mostly in tanks (military vehicles) and big machines not your everyday family car.

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qyron 3 points 3 years ago

I mentioned that in particular because the house I'm living has beams that were treated with that mix when it was built, back in the 40's. And the neither rots nor gets infested. But the added fire damage is there.

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Itsamelemmy 18 points 3 years ago

Mixed 50/50 with diesel is what I'm using as fence stain/sealer.

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SwampYankee 2 points 3 years ago

Can also be sprayed on your undercarriage to repel road salt & water during the winter and prevent rust, though it's not legal in every state.

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Catoblepas 51 points 3 years ago

Shit like this is why people doing home gardening, especially in areas that have been inhabited for hundreds of years, without testing the soil first give me heart palpitations. What are you eating?? I don't know, and neither do you!

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June 28 points 3 years ago

My neighborhood soil is laced with arsenic and lead from an old foundry that used to be nearby.

A bunch of my neighbors grow and eat food in that soil knowing it. It boggles my mind.

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Ruthalas 16 points 3 years ago

While I know it's not convenient, have you considered... telling them?

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June 20 points 3 years ago

Yea, and the response has been ‘I’ve been eating food I’ve grown here for 20 years and I’m totally fine!’

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zeroAhead 13 points 3 years ago

Just like the people that love to tell their grandparents lived a long life smoking tobacco everyday.

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Aux 4 points 3 years ago

People doing home gardening usually replace the soil.

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Catoblepas 7 points 3 years ago

Almost everyone I know of that gardens at home just tills the soil they have available. Gardening soil isn’t cheap and they view it as an unnecessary expense. It’s especially hard to convince people in rural areas that just using the dirt out back can be harmful.

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Aux 0 points 3 years ago

When I lived in a private house with a garden, we would buy new soil EVERY YEAR. Because fuck all grows otherwise.

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Catoblepas 3 points 3 years ago

I grew up in the country and my grandparents never bought any soil, but God knows what they added to it. Arsenic used to be common in pesticides, for example.

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casey 2 points 3 years ago

I know you can send soil to be tested by your local university extension, but how do you test for conaminents like used hydrocarbons, arsenic, lead, glyphosate-based herbicides, etc?

I am about to embark on a hobby of composting and would like to know.

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Catoblepas 3 points 3 years ago

If your local university doesn’t test for the specific contaminants you’re concerned about you can send samples to a private lab instead, sometimes they offer more testing options. I don’t know the specifics of how each one is tested for, but on your end they usually just require you to take (and possibly dry) soil samples before sending them in.

If you don’t have a good idea of the history of the site, it would be good to try and figure it out through your local historical society if you have one, or land records from your local records office. Whoever is testing the soil will have a better idea of what to test for if they know it used to be a mining town, or it’s 50 feet from a house old enough to have used lead paint, if it was farm land, etc.

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RegularGoose 46 points 3 years ago

Also, heat your home more effectively in the winter by always having a bucket of coal burning in your living room.

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SwampYankee 1 point 3 years ago

Make sure to leave your gas stove on, too.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 41 points 3 years ago

The first couple times I helped my dad change the oil in his car he dumped it down the storm drain which lead to the Chesapeake.

We don't do that anymore.

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mkhopper 24 points 3 years ago

I think of all the times I did that working on my cars years ago.
It was just something you did and no one ever even blinked. Old oil, gas, brake fluid, etc, right down the storm drain.

Now I think back and shudder.

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Nioxic 31 points 3 years ago

So return to its source. Basically.

Oil is weird.

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KingJalopy 9 points 3 years ago

I mean this is probably how we found it in the ground in the first place. The world goes round and round.

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ezures 10 points 3 years ago

The oil cycle. Nature is finally healing

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w00tabaga 31 points 3 years ago

My grandpa would just set the old oil filters when he would change the oil in the 3 farm tractors he owned. He did that for years and 30 years later that spot is still like blacktop. At least it’s only a 2’x2’ spot but I couldn’t imagine if he dumped the actual oil. And that’s only 3 diesel tractors twice a year.

The thought that shops were doing it for years is sad

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XTornado 25 points 3 years ago

I need the full book/magazine this comes from there.might be other nice tips.

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Hyperi0n 19 points 3 years ago path: 0 2948427 2950702, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 2
MedicPigBabySaver 5 points 3 years ago

Nice

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XTornado 2 points 3 years ago

Oh great thanks 🙏👍

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gentle_potato 23 points 3 years ago
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atlasraven31 32 points 3 years ago

Digging is way too much effort when you can just push it into the nearest pond.

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QuinceDaPence 30 points 3 years ago

Just don't forget to take the battery out so it can be safely disposed of in the ocean.

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atlasraven31 6 points 3 years ago

Absolutely. You never know when you might need an old car battery for torture.

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hackris 3 points 3 years ago

How? Isn't it just 12 V? Genuinely curious, because I never understood this stuff in movies...

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EmoDuck 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 2923007 2923124 2923165 2923771 2934756, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
reverendsteveii 1 point 3 years ago

It's Perfectly Safe and Legal!

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Rozauhtuno 3 points 3 years ago

And breathing lead.

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snooggums 2 points 3 years ago

And eating lead paint!

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jubilationtcornpone 1 point 3 years ago

That's why you bury a bunch of cars halfway and tell all the neighbors it's "art".

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Blastasaurus 19 points 3 years ago

Instructions unclear, now the swing set in my back yard needs it's tires rotated.

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TheBigMike 17 points 3 years ago

The modern way of doing this would involve reversing the process of dinosaur bones turning into oil. So you just put into the oil-to-bone-inator and bury those bones back into the ground where they originally came from.

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snowe 14 points 3 years ago

Oil isn’t made from dinosaurs

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droans 34 points 3 years ago

Sure, if you're buying the cheap stuff.

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ignotum 25 points 3 years ago

Oh really? So how come you can use oil to make plastic dinosaur toys?

Checkmate atheists

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TheBigMike 13 points 3 years ago

That's what Big Non-Dino-Oil wants you to think, so they can get all of the moneys from everyone.

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imgonnatrythis 15 points 3 years ago

Thanks. It nice to have a reliable source to turn to when I am inspired to follow guides published in the 1960s.

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vreraan 12 points 3 years ago

I remember that 1970 shitty cartoon "Barbapapa", which proposed burying all kinds of waste as a solution.

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betterredthandead 4 points 3 years ago

Out of sight, out of mind

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Ghyste 6 points 3 years ago

This is not a meme. Apparently this is a difficult concept.

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atocci 13 points 3 years ago

With the !lemmyshitpost community shut down for now, non-memes are struggling to find a home

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valek879 3 points 3 years ago

Whoa, I didn't think you were telling the truth, why'd it shut down?

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Beefytootz 14 points 3 years ago

Child porn. There's an official statement from the folks running lemmy.world explaining it. I really wish I was joking, but there were a couple of suuuuuuuper inappropriate posts, even for shit posting standards. I came across one and reported it. It was a porn gif and at the end, there was a text card saying the person in the gif is a child. Fucking pedos ruining shit for everyone else, they should make like a leaf and hang from a tree

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CommunityLinkFixer 2 points 3 years ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world

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vsis 0 points 3 years ago
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Fluffy56 4 points 3 years ago

I mean, oil comes from the ground so I'm just returning it to its natural habitat.

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