The Real Reason ICE Agents Wear Masks | Face coverings may work less to protect federal agents from danger than to make it easier for them to do unconstitutional things.

8 months ago by silence7 to c/politics

Face coverings may work less to protect federal agents from danger than to make it easier for them to do unconstitutional things.
Hayduke 92 points 8 months ago

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gnuthing 47 points 8 months ago

law enforcement officers who don’t work at ICE or Border Patrol have a death rate 6.3 times higher than that of immigration enforcement officers.” In fact, the report found, immigration agents are at no greater risk than regular people: “The chance of an ICE or Border Patrol agent being murdered in the line of duty is about one in 94,549 per year, about 5.5 times less likely than a civilian being murdered.

Seems like immigrants are less dangerous then citizens

The crime rate of CBP agents and offices was higher PER CAPITA than the crime rate of undocumented immigrants in the United States,” Graff writes.” Statistically speaking, “worst of the worst” seems to describe CBP and the Border Patrol as law-enforcement agencies better than it does the people they’re rounding up

And less dangerous than CBP it seems

It's obvious that ICE/CBP aren't about crime, they exist to enforce white nationalism

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UnspecificGravity 16 points 8 months ago

Enforcing white nationalism is the only reason the Border Patrol has ever existed.

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gnuthing 4 points 8 months ago

Very true

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Makeitstop 8 points 8 months ago

Even if they were following the law and had no agenda or ulterior motives they wouldn't be about crime. And that's part of the problem. They avoid constitutional limitations associated with all other forms of law enforcement by having only administrative authority and dealing with civil law.

It's like giving postal workers body armor and assault rifles and letting them abduct anyone that they suspect might have used improper postage or that had thrown away junk mail addressed to someone else while claiming everyone they attack had been terrorists sending letter bombs.

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Catoblepas 5 points 8 months ago

“The chance of an ICE or Border Patrol agent being murdered in the line of duty is about one in 94,549 per year, about 5.5 times less likely than a civilian being murdered.

These fucks are less likely to die than any random person and they still want carte blanche to execute anyone who looks at them wrong? They can rot in hell.

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Corkyskog 2 points 8 months ago

It seems pretty obvious considering undocumented folk are extremely unlikely to have firearms, you know with them not having documentation to obtain one legally.

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AfricanExpansionist 44 points 8 months ago

The Atlantic-- always on the cutting edge

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betterdeadthanreddit 25 points 8 months ago

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HootinNHollerin 23 points 8 months ago

No shit

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SayJess 20 points 8 months ago

Has anyone, who still believes in democracy, ever questioned the purpose of the full face masks? It seemed pretty clear from the beginning, that masks were there to allow for their abuses to escalate unchecked?

Thanks Mr. Obvious, I guess I never made the connection.

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LibertyLizard 20 points 8 months ago

No shit I've been saying this from the beginning.

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AshMan85 14 points 8 months ago

No shit.

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_haha_oh_wow_ 12 points 8 months ago

ORLY?

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CharlesDarwin 9 points 8 months ago

You don't say.

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ChunkMcHorkle 8 points 8 months ago

Yeah, yeah, no shit. But read further down in the article and you get this:

If there were law-enforcement agencies particularly ill-suited to anonymity, it would be Customs and Border Protection and the Border Patrol. From 2005 to 2024, nearly 5,000 CBP and Border Patrol officers were arrested, according to the journalist Garrett Graff, who testified about his findings to an accountability commission set up by the governor of Illinois. Information on the multitude of corruption-related charges faced by agents can be found on the CBP’s own website. “The crime rate of CBP agents and offices was higher PER CAPITA than the crime rate of undocumented immigrants in the United States,” Graff writes. Statistically speaking, “worst of the worst” seems to describe CBP and the Border Patrol as law-enforcement agencies better than it does the people they’re rounding up. (emphases mine)

To me, that's the real story, right up there with and equivalent to what they're doing at work.

The regime HAS to hire sociopaths to inspire fear and terror on the streets because no one else will do it, and even then some are starting to crash out. Applicants are already well aware there is neither honor nor glory in what they're signing up for (that's for the rubes) but it turns out that being called out to your own face daily, by entire crowds that never stop, in the worst language people can find, and finding yourself universally hated by everyone but your peers sucks the joy out of it too. You can't even do it without getting swarmed and filmed now, much less as secretly as you'd like: it's hard to savor that brutality when all those citizens are filming you from fifteen different angles.

So I'm not at all surprised to see stories coming out of individual ICE agents working under the influence, drunk driving, passed out in their vehicle covered in puke, or involved in theft and sexual assault, because they are FAILING. And not only are they failing, they are HATED. They're not heroes, they're not winning, they're not even meeting their quotas. It's inevitable that when all that mutual pseudo-military back-slapping bro-cheering togetherness ends and they end up in their hotel rooms alone some will be leaning hard into their preferred maladaptive coping behaviors, and that even the most effective of those will now be failing them.

Or to put it another way, these are brutal fucks who are hired because they get joy out of thuggery: take that away like the public has, surrounding them with cameras and calling them names and pointing out their exceptional incompetence in everything they touch, they're just going to bust out in other ways.

In fact, I'd lay money on what we've actually seen of individual ICE sociopathy being the least of it, and that the reality and scale of ICE off-hours criminality is a hell of a lot worse than that. I'd also bet that at least part of that very large DHS budget has is dedicated to keeping as much evidence of ICE personal crime out of public sight as possible, by any means.

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Blackfeathr 7 points 8 months ago

Thank you Captain Obvious

^Not directed at OP but at the author^

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GaMEChld 6 points 8 months ago

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YurkshireLad 6 points 8 months ago

Those poor ice agents are clearly risking their lives by wearing face masks and coverings. How can they possibly breathe? /s

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Sterile_Technique 2 points 8 months ago
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Tarkcanis 4 points 8 months ago

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orbituary 4 points 8 months ago

Weirdest excuse for KKK Cosplay I've ever seen.

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phutatorius 3 points 8 months ago

They're committing crimes and don't want to be held accountable.

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miraclerandy 1 point 8 months ago

This comment section is exactly what I expected it to be when I saw that title lol.

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