What is this bird

21 days ago by Forsho to c/birding

Just found out that this little bitch bird is killing all the other small birds that lived for years on the trees next to our house.

I noticed lately that the usual birds sounds are gone for the past three weeks, it appears this fucker is killing them

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Forsho 1 point 20 days ago

Are you sure, it doesn’t look like the one in the links.

It has a weird strong looking beak, and it’s not a small size bird.

Also how to make it stop killing other small singing birds.

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Blackfeathr 8 points 20 days ago

I mean you kinda just gotta let nature take it's course. We can't play god all the time. Birds gonna kill other birds πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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Forsho 3 points 20 days ago

Man those singing birds have been living on those trees for more than 20 years, this fucker came and start killing them and now (aside from no more bird singing) i have noticed also some strange bugs on my windows small flies and mosquitoes (dont know if its related)

This bitch bird is an occupier - i think.

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Catoblepas 3 points 20 days ago

I think they’re right, if you scroll down to the photo of the G. g. atricapillus subspecies it looks very similar, and it’s local to your area.

Corvids like jays will just eat nestlings (along with many other small things like bugs and mice), they have to eat and feed their own young as well. There’s not really anything that can or should be done to stop them; the songbirds will be back, they’ll come back for whatever attracted them in the first place.

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Forsho 6 points 20 days ago

He killed this little prince that lives on our lemon tree.

I do hate him

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Forsho 5 points 20 days ago

He occupied their home (they lived there for 20 years) but also killed them 😒

Everyday i see his shadows on the those trees, he claims that area now. I hate it

Its not his home, i want to kick it out.

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starlinguk 1 point 9 days ago

It's a jay. Mean little buggers. We lost quite a few chicks to them.

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A_Union_of_Kobolds 5 points 20 days ago

Idk but mind giving a general idea where you are?

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Forsho 5 points 20 days ago path: 0 24053406 24053748, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 1
Natanael 3 points 20 days ago

G. g. atricapillus is a near exact match (was in the wiki article linked)

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KevinFRK 4 points 20 days ago

Assuming it's some subspecies of Eurasian Jay, I'm a bit surprised it's killing adult birds of any size. Nestlings and eggs, oh definitely, but it's really not designed for anything larger.

RSPB (in the UK) have it as "Mainly acorns, nuts, seeds and insects, but also eats nestlings of other birds and small mammals." (going on to mention mice to explain "small mammal")

Now, the smaller birds know its after their nests, and may have decided to leave, but you might want to check for other causes, e.g. a cat moved in or you've entered a season where the birds don't show themselves (e.g. moulting or just too hot). Also, if the jay is killing the adults, I'd expect a lot of debris left around as they won't be swallowing them whole.

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humble_boatsman 2 points 20 days ago

AJAB.

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anon6789 11 points 20 days ago

Nah, I back the blue jays.

Animals don't have malice. They're doing what they are supposed to do. It isn't always what we want them to do, but they have been here far longer than us.

What would they say if they were to judge humans for what we do? πŸ€”

I had a Coopers Hawk that would now and then snag one of the invasive sparrows, but one day one of my beloved jays was its meal. By the time the jay or I knew what happened, it was too late to change anything. The hawk did its thing and took it away. I was sad for my jay, but the world needs hawks just as much.

We get animals all the time that people try to "save" from predators. They prolong the death of the prey and starve the predator. It invested a lot of vital energy into a hunt, only to be robbed by a human, who is almost completely removed from the natural world.

Well, I didn't intend to make this comment a whole thing, and it certainly isn't directed at who I'm replying to, more just a peeve when encountering people that don't empathize with predatory animals.

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humble_boatsman 3 points 20 days ago

Sorry anon! I was writing this comment as a joke and literally hoping you wouldn't be in this thread! I know your love for your local blue jays!

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anon6789 4 points 20 days ago

Lol this is why I generally avoid other people's animal posts πŸ˜…

I came to just leave the first line, but after putting in so many hours working with all kinds of unloved and misunderstood animals, it's hard not to take some things personally or not to see some the things people see as funny in the same way. I don't want to spoil people's jokes and fun, so I generally stay away, but I got irked at OP coming to the bird sub to hate on a bird and talk about hitting it with rocks. We just had the game commission drop off another animal abuse case to us right before our fun event, so it's hard to have a day working where you don't see terrible stuff done by people that are worse than anything one animal will do to another.

I could tell your comment was tongue in cheek, but I didn't get the vibe from OP. As I said, I get their disappointment if this bird did hurt their bird friends, it happens to me too, and I don't know how this type of jay behaves. I know our bluejays get an unearned reputation as violent and annoying birds, but it is not true. But even if it is in OP's case, that is nature. There's plenty out there that would hurt that jay and its family, likely some of those same songbirds.

I'm going to stop now since I'm just getting myself worked up, but other than asking what type of bird it was, this feels in poor taste for what I'd consider a pro bird community.

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Forsho 1 point 20 days ago

Maybe you misunderstood me, i would never go and hunt a bird down, but this fucker appeared from no where. and all the birds living in our trees for 20 years are now gone because of him.

What exactly do you want me to do, they (little singing birds) became part of our daily lives, and all of the sudden they are gone.

My upstairs neighbor told me that this bird was killing the small birds (RIP the black yellow prince who lived in our lemon tree)

I always try to provide safe environment for the birds, i chase away cats all the time, so yes i want to chase him away.

Fuck him, Its not his natural habitat, its the home of the singing birds for two decades.

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ivanafterall 2 points 20 days ago

I ran the photo through Merlin and it said maybe Eurasian Jay? Maybe?

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peachfront 2 points 20 days ago

@Forsho

i'm guessing a Eurasian Jay from a subspecies that has a black crown & also is photographed from above? (there seems to be more than 1 & i don't know this species well enough to get closer on the subspecies...)

did I win????

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Forsho 2 points 20 days ago

Not sure its the same species, but how do i make it stop killing small native birds.

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Madzielle 2 points 20 days ago

I feel your pain

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Natanael 1 point 20 days ago

See if you can get it relocated

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Forsho -1 points 20 days ago

How, should i throw some harmless stones at it?

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couldhavebeenyou 1 point 20 days ago

Learn the bird sounds

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peachfront 1 point 20 days ago

@Forsho

bird probably has a nest nearby and is hyper aggressive until the little ones fledge

i think you just got to wait it out

when i had Blue Jays (the American kind) nest in my yard i just wore a special hat with lots of metal on it to keep them from hitting me on the head but the smaller birds could take care of themselves because they're more maneuverable-- i think your smaller birds will come back when the Jays finish

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