Google preps Pixel ‘Audio Memory’ that ambiently tracks your ‘important conversations,’ like AI notetaker pins

6 hours ago by meejle to c/technology

Google is working on a new feature called “Audio Memory” for Pixel phones that will “keep track of what you hear throughout your day.”

fuck offffff

lemmyng 115 points 6 hours ago

Reason n+1 for me being thankful for switching to GrapheneOS.

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wuffah 18 points 6 hours ago

How’s the app support? I want to switch if/when the Motorola phones come out, but I’m wondering how many of my apps/services I’ll have to abandon.

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floofloof 35 points 6 hours ago

Almost everything just works after installing sandboxed Google Play Services. For a few apps you have to tweak a setting to turn off some of GrapheneOS's exploit protections. But I've found very few that refuse to run, and nothing indispensable. If you don't like your main profile having Play Services you can set them up under a second profile or a private area and keep the apps that use them away from your main profile.

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standarduser 1 point 4 hours ago

Ive only got one gripe with it and its the requirement for RCS. I do prefer to use signal but genuinely only one person I know has gotten on to it. I hate using google messages but for folks that send me bulk pictures from iOS its just a hassle until there's a Foss one that works but there isnt to my knowledge. I do know RCS only works on the main profile goo

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51dusty 1 point 4 hours ago

There was no work profile support when I last tried to convert. deal breaker, atm.

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VeganCheesecake 2 points an hour ago

That has been working fine for years at this point.

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popekingjoe 1 point 3 hours ago path: 0 24387768 24387816 24387998 24389296 24389725, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 2
Aedis 1 point 2 hours ago

The other thing that might be a dealbreaker for you is no contactless payments with things like google wallet will work. But you could always just attach your credit card to the back of your phone and :tada: it works again lol

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VeganCheesecake 2 points an hour ago

Contactless payments technically work fine, just not via Google Wallet. Banks that have their own tap to pay app usually don't have that problem.

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inari 13 points 5 hours ago

Some bank apps may not work, but you can check by searching for you bank name + GrapheneOS

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ratel 8 points 5 hours ago

I found this list helpful: https://privsec.dev/...

I also found that one of the ones I use would only work in the Owner profile with Gplay services so the secondary profile wasn't an option for it.

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valar 5 points 5 hours ago

I've had zero apps not work, including my banking apps.

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chamomile 11 points 4 hours ago

Doesn't help if someone you're talking to has it on. And unlike Zuck's stupid glasses you won't even be able to know unless you ask every single person you talk to first. This sucks.

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VeganCheesecake 1 point an hour ago

It's probably illegal in Germany and some other EU countries. Not that that always stops Big Tech. But this one, at least in Germany, could land the user some jail time.

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DarkCloud 45 points 6 hours ago

Welcome to your "I only buy vintage tech" era.

Mine started when 3.5 mm audio jacks started disappearing. We all draw a line.

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slevinkelevra 4 points 5 hours ago

Well there are adapter cables USB-C to 3.5mm. On my previous phone in my car I used a splitting cable to power it while using the 3.5mm as input to the car radio. However on my new phone Samsung decided to not support it anymore -.-

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SacredHeartAttack 43 points 6 hours ago

Fucking yikes

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corsicanguppy 34 points 6 hours ago

Um, oh fuck no.

The reams of personally-identifiable information that will leak is insane.

We're not allowed to have Siri and Alexa listening when we're working, lest a stray word on a phone call from the home office risks a privacy breach.

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DrakeAlbrecht 32 points 6 hours ago

Aaaand it's Niantic all over again.

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IEatDaFeesh 31 points 4 hours ago

Motorola needs to release those GrapheneOS compatible phones now 💀

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db2 31 points 4 hours ago

I already get "random" ads for things that were only part of a verbal conversation that happened to be near the phone.

What I want is a physical kill switch for the mic and camera, less surveillance not more.

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fonix232 12 points 3 hours ago

That's been happening for well over a decade now, and while "respectable security researchers" call it bullshit... there's simply too much anecdotal evidence for it to happen organically.

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tempest 16 points 3 hours ago

The reality is they don't need to listen.

They have so much data on users.

  • how old you are
  • where you are
  • what you last bought
  • when you just bought it
  • who you are near
  • what they bought
  • what the people around you are searching and what ads they are seeing
  • what is being bought and sold by everyone around you
  • when you sleep
  • what you eat
  • the things you are chatting about on MMS
  • where you go
  • when you're home and when and where you work

It just goes on and on and on.

People think they are unique but they are not as unique as they think.

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Rooster326 1 point 25 minutes ago

Okay but how does all of that

Tell them I'm in the market for a toilet seat?

And then forget to tell them - I only need 1 toilet seat?

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Senal 2 points 8 minutes ago

that's an easy one.

google is an ad company, their main customers are the people who buy ads, pretending you need a toilet seat let's them charge toilet seat makers more to "target" you

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meejle 9 points 3 hours ago

I always wonder whether we're getting it backwards.

Like, did you see ads for kayaks because you had that conversation about kayaking, or did you have the conversation because an ad company/social network decided it was time for you to get into kayaking?

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floofloof 6 points 2 hours ago

It may not even be that they advertised kayaking to you. They may just have a very good model of your behaviour that predicts you're likely to be interested in kayaking.

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justaman123 2 points 23 minutes ago

Honestly this is scarier, and harder to understand. But I suspect it to be the case

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eestileib 3 points 2 hours ago

I'm figuring it's smart TVs and smart speakers, not the phones

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RedGreenBlue 3 points 3 hours ago

Should be legally mandated in the surveillance environment we are in.

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wonderingwanderer 1 point 4 minutes ago

I'm pretty sure fairphone has that hardwired killswitch

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oats 16 points 3 hours ago

Illegal in Germany. You may not record conversations, if you try to enter something like that as evidence you'll get punished as well.

I suspect there are many countries with laws like that, and if your phone actually disables the feature when you enter them or just let's you hang to dry...

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Zarobi 6 points 2 hours ago

I wonder if there's a legal loophole here? Specifically this works by transcribing "important conversations" into text, it's not actually storing .mp3 recordings. Obviously still disgusting and I hate it.

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Rooster326 6 points 26 minutes ago

The legal loophole is Google can afford to pay the fine. They make more money breaking ze to law than they do following they law

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TheFeatureCreature 2 points 23 minutes ago

This right here. Companies like Google effectively have infinite money and it's not a big deal for them to pay off the (usually miniscule) fines that they get hit with.

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oats 4 points 2 hours ago

Not a lawyer, but as far as I got it, the storing isn't the punishable part, the recording is.

You can't have security cameras filming public spaces (like the road in front of your house). Even if its dummies, as people couldn't tell the difference whether the camera actually films them or not.

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WesternInfidels 14 points 5 hours ago

It's easy to imagine scenarios where something like this could be useful. Sometimes very, very useful. "Hey Google, I spent the last 20 minutes speaking to a police officer, be sure to keep and transcribe all that."

But no one's going to trust it (no one should trust it) because it's offered by a big tech company. "Of course this new service is designed to be used against us," we correctly assume.

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anon_8675309 14 points 5 hours ago

Google: sorry, we work for the police, so that audio was not recorded.

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meejle 7 points 5 hours ago

Or it accidentally got the wording wrong, oops

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Tower 3 points 33 minutes ago

This is where I'm at.

I've got a really bad memory. Ever since seeing Iron Man (I was never into the comics), I've dreamed of having a JARVIS-esque virtual assistant, something that could be omnipresent in my life to document and recall and remind and suggest and...

I'd be willing to pay for it, too. $100-$150 a month, maybe more, would be well worth it to keep my life from spiraling, like it has a tendency to do. But it would have to be my data. Never used for anything but myself. And that's just unacceptable to the Tech Bros.

With self-hosted LLMs continuing to get better and cheaper, maybe this will happen in my lifetime. 🤞

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yaroto98 11 points 6 hours ago

"For Pixel Phones". So it's a hardware thing... for now.

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RaoulDook 5 points 5 hours ago

Big Brother Google is always listening, and probably would sell anything they've recorded to make a buck.

Maybe a lot of people in 2-party consent required jurisdictions should write in to google to state that they explicitly decline to consent to being recorded by google's bullshit

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Danarchy 4 points 2 hours ago

Oh yeah? I’d like to see them parse it when i switch to talking in igpay atinlay

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trainsrkool 2 points 5 hours ago

No fucking thank you 😒

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kibblebits -32 points 6 hours ago

The biggest douchbags in the world, besides billionaires, are the people who still use Google—including Gmail and chromium based browsers.

Are you a douchebag? Let me hear your crybaby bullshit.

(Not you OP)

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cideyav138 22 points 6 hours ago

Personally, I think the real douchebags are web devs who only build and test for chromium based browsers, making some critical tools completely unusable on Firefox/Linux systems. Looking at you, Chase.com.

Really, anyone who develops third-party software that entrenches monopolies.

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bamboo 5 points 5 hours ago

idk about you but never had an issue with chase's website on Firefox that prevented me from using it.

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dogslayeggs 2 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, I use Chase on Firefox every month with no issues.

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gravitas_deficiency 2 points 5 hours ago

You’re probably just out of date. I had some issues recently on Waterfox, realized I was running a not-super-new version, and things worked great after I updated the flatpak.

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abbadon420 8 points 5 hours ago

It' s easy to dismiss everyone as "douchebag" if they don't align with your world views.

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kibblebits -5 points 5 hours ago

The world view that privacy invasion is a bad thing.

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dogslayeggs 8 points 5 hours ago

It's almost like true douchebags are the ones who are completely unaware of how the real world works and think everyone in the world should warp their worldview around what they think is personally most important.

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kibblebits -4 points 5 hours ago

The real world of supporting privacy invasion?

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gapa 1 point 5 hours ago

I use chromium for a few sites and I use gmail and youtube,

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kibblebits -3 points 5 hours ago

Guess what that makes you ;)

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gapa 2 points 5 hours ago

A douchebag? Sounds like an upgrade from a total loser. :)

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kibblebits -2 points 5 hours ago

Were you a total loser before?

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