Save the planet, hold your breath

19 days ago by cm0002 to c/politicalmemes

SatansMaggotyCumFart 53 points 19 days ago

It’s really hard to listen to blue checked accounts posting on social media owned by a trillionaire.

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kingofras 15 points 19 days ago

Not to mention while peddling population reduction propaganda on the platform of the dude that had so many kids he had to start labeling them with serial numbers and coincidentally wants to colonise another (uninhabitable) planet.

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FiniteBanjo 5 points 19 days ago

Doesn't appear to be population control propaganda, he's saying Capitalism bad. How he defines Capitalism isn't clear, could be anything from /[non-state controlled manufacturing] to /[the west], or if they're particularly misinformed they could be using it synonymously with loose regulation, corruption, and monopoly.

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kingofras 6 points 19 days ago

Not familiar with the cesspool, thought that was a retweet or something

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RickyRigatoni 2 points 19 days ago

He's not peddling it he's refuting it. Did you even reading comprehension skill

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kingofras 1 point 18 days ago

Well, you missed a word and a comma, so perhaps we’re not all perfect. Happy Sunday Ricky

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RickyRigatoni 1 point 18 days ago

it's saturday

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Arcka 1 point 18 days ago

I'm certain Ricky hasn't missed them even a little bit.

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Daft_ish 3 points 17 days ago

If people were reasonable, Twitter would have died years ago.

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Quokka 30 points 19 days ago

No, no they have a point. I feel like if we stopped say roughly 3,428 people from breathing that the world would start to heal.

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takeda 9 points 19 days ago

Looking at the list by cities no wonder they are losing their shit because of Mamdani.

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Daft_ish 1 point 17 days ago

Erm, I dont think its only the people but the power structures they created. So there is a fair amount of dismantling that has to happen no matter what.

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twopi 30 points 19 days ago

Nothing. Humans evolved with plants to complete the carbon cycle. Fossil fuels did not evolve, they are burned.

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tpyo 14 points 19 days ago

I quoted an article already but here's another:

we humans are a significant contributor to global warming. But, in reality, the CO2 we’re breathing out is part of a natural cycle, by which our bodies convert carbohydrates from CO2-absorbing plants into energy, plus water and CO2. As such, we’re not adding any extra CO2.

which fully supports your statement

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jnod4 5 points 18 days ago

So human breathing is net zero because we're just emitting carbon dioxide trapped in the food we just planted?

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Bytemeister 5 points 18 days ago

Unless a significant part of your diet is coal butter, yes.

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jumping_redditor 11 points 18 days ago

fossil fuels are natural, the burning of them in the quantities we do is not.

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Washedupcynic 1 point 8 days ago

I thought fossil fuel evolved from the anaerobic decay of dinosaurs and prehistoric plankton mixing with sediment which put it under intense heat and pressure.

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twopi 3 points 7 days ago

evolved is the wrong term here. Fossil fuels are formed. This is a meaningful distinction because both plants and animals are evolved and had time to adapt to the presence of the other to create a symbiotic relationship.

Fossil fuels formation is a geological process. There is no cycle, and it is a process not dependent on living things to work the process.

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tpyo 28 points 19 days ago

To be fair, it is a number I would be curious about because I just want to know. So I looked up the article:

https://www.sciencefocus.com/...

be mad; read headlines; parrot social media; here's another quote:

In contrast, burning fossil fuels like coal releases CO2 which has been locked up for millions of years, producing a net contribution to global warming.

The article is literally blaming capitalism

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MurrayL 20 points 18 days ago

Even more important context, right at the top of the article:

Asked by: Peter Thatcher, Lancaster

This was a response to a reader-submitted question to a science magazine.

Everyone raging in the comments here has just blindly read the headline and the deliberately-misleading social post attached, and they’ve decided to be mad instead of using even an ounce of critical thinking. Drives me crazy how much people seem to want to be angry.

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Mucki 5 points 18 days ago

Thanks. Keep up the dissecting. It is an important tool to lift the "ragefull" propagandistic discussions back to a reasonable exchange of facts and opinions.

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blackberry28 15 points 19 days ago

Millenials and Gen Z are helping to combat this problem by having fewer kids. And yet, Billionaires complain about that, too. Lol.

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CultLeader4Hire 4 points 18 days ago

It’s not a problem

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cosmos8188 2 points 19 days ago

Yep, everyone at or post the 'millenial generation' have caught on the avocado toast bullcrap.

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Tollana1234567 1 point 18 days ago

dont you mean no-kids.

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ILikeBoobies 14 points 19 days ago

If we got rid of the rich that would mean less people breathing. The solution is obvious.

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FiniteBanjo 1 point 19 days ago

Well, the only way to "get rid of the rich" is the widespread disbursement of wealth, so actually no.

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minorkeys 9 points 18 days ago

We're barely capitalist, it's all scheming and legal privileges and crime at this point. Even capitalism requires an adherence to a ruleset and the rulers we have do not like following any rules.

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explodicle 2 points 17 days ago

That's just typical capitalism. The factors of production are privately owned. It's not a free market, but capitalism does naturally consolidate power like this.

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LodeMike 7 points 18 days ago

Near 0

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matlag 6 points 18 days ago

They're not desperate. Their system still works and trickle money up.

What they're doing is preparing you to make monthly payments for air breezing plans.

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Lucidlethargy 5 points 19 days ago

It's not "capitalism", it's corporations with zero governnental or moral limits.

It's greed, manifest.

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jumping_redditor 1 point 18 days ago

morals have no place in a well written legal system

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IAMgROOT 1 point 15 days ago
  • Mr. John B. (Bourgeois) Capitalist
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tigermountain 4 points 19 days ago

If we get rid of human breathing we will eventually get rid of man-made climate change.

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FiniteBanjo 2 points 18 days ago

No, no, he's got a point.

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Daft_ish 3 points 17 days ago

This is easy. Just stop breathing.

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phoenixz 2 points 18 days ago

And that shit is called science focus... It hurts.

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FiniteBanjo 0 points 18 days ago

Did you read the article?

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Lushed_Lungfish 2 points 18 days ago

Near 100% I'd say.

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Grandwolf319 1 point 19 days ago

The are trying to make reducing carbon seem unrealistic

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deadymouse 0 points 18 days ago
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Hueristic_Autistic -1 points 18 days ago

You know what, I think smoking Crack is a gold standard for, "the media." It's quite a crack addict thing to ponder, ya know? How much does human breathing contribute to climate change?

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FiniteBanjo 2 points 18 days ago

According to the article: it doesn't, CO2 is part of a natural carbon cycle predating industries.

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HugeNerd -3 points 18 days ago

There was capitalism in the 17th century. How about blaming the massive consumption of 8 billion people?

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explodicle 5 points 17 days ago

I was drinking heavily at 21 and was in tip-top physical condition.

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FiniteBanjo -4 points 19 days ago

I don't think theres a socioeconomic system that allows 9 billion people to live a modern life on earth without climate change. I vote we renew the USAID program that shipped condoms to the middle east and we make college free for women everywhere, that should about fix it.

EDIT: And normalize meat only being an occasional meal instead of twice daily.

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Alcoholicorn 0 points 19 days ago

You should work for the New York Times lmao.

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FiniteBanjo 1 point 19 days ago

Known Tankie bootsucker, licker, tickler Alcholicorn accusing me of Propaganda, how quaint.

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Alcoholicorn -2 points 19 days ago

Wait you weren't doing a bit, imitating a NYT columnist whitewashing fascism?

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FiniteBanjo 2 points 19 days ago

Alright, I'll bite, how is free medical and education (and importantly taxing industry and the wealthy) "whitewashing fascism"?

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Multiplexer -12 points 19 days ago

While the premise from the headline is ridiculous, considering the contribution to CO2 emissions caused by human metabolism is not.

Humans don't have a good efficiency, compared to e.g. a electric motor.
Also, the "fuel" used by humans itself typically already comes with a gigantic CO2 burden.

That's also the reason that biking without electric assistance is not quite as carbon neutral as most people believe.

Putting it this way: The primarily meat-based overconsumption prevalent in many western countries offers many opportunities to significantly reduce CO2.

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JasonDJ 12 points 19 days ago

A single Big Mac can power a gaming PC for 2 hours, a Tesla for ~2.5 miles, or a moderately active human for 6 hours.

It could also take an e bike anywhere from 25-50 miles depending on the rider, terrain, and other factors.

I don't know if I'd say we're "inefficient"...but we also don't carry around 1000lbs of batteries...even in America.

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