When A Con Man and His Party Control the White House

5 days ago by spaghettiwestern to c/politicalmemes

MnemonicBump 150 points 5 days ago

I really need people to start to realize that we're at least a full decade further into the erosion and decline of the United States than most people seem to think we are. Trump is a symptom of an already sick and dying system. This isn't a fluke

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Jozav 71 points 5 days ago

Europe should invade and force a regime change, liberate the US citizens.

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MnemonicBump 38 points 5 days ago

Once again, this isn't about regime. It's a systemic issue. The U.S. is a net negative for everyone, especially it's own people. The only solution is end the whole thing and try something new

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aguasemgas 28 points 5 days ago

And just like every kinda country/ government it should come from it's own people not from a foreign power.

It will not last if it comes from outside, the one who got taken down before, always goes back to the fake patriotism and put another dictator in same place back in the end, if not the same fucker (see Napoleon for example).

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RememberTheApollo_ 15 points 5 days ago

We should view wealth as a foreign power. The ultra wealthy are divested from the care and keeping of the country, and the regular people in it. They are openly hostile to the citizens, exploiting them and extracting rent and labor from them; and they seek to usurp and control the government.

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wirebeads 9 points 5 days ago

Funny though. Americans seem to think they can cart Blanche take control of, oh I don’t know: Cuba, Canada, Greenland, Denmark, Venezuela, Panama, and Iran and overthrow their governments with whatever right they seem to think they have. Hypocrisy much?

Edit. I forgot the Gulf of Mexico.

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rayyy 6 points 5 days ago

Our government should come from well informed people, not a few oligarchs who tell people how to vote via a controlled media.

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kettuli 4 points 5 days ago

So europeans should re-colonize it?

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Slovene85 6 points 5 days ago

I say we nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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abigscaryhobo 2 points 5 days ago

Well hang on, let's send the elites into space first. Then nuke their ships. Then give earth a second chance. If we don't get it in 20 years, then we can call it a wash and wipe the planet clean.

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Trampampoline 2 points 5 days ago

Can't we just do pedo's playhouse?

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wonderingwanderer 6 points 5 days ago

I'd be alright with the European Commission appointing an interim government here. I say this as a USian

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cubism_pitta 2 points 5 days ago

Nah homie, let's just vote harder.

I am going to vote so hard

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SaharaMaleikuhm 10 points 5 days ago

No, thanks. Though I will admit the idea of holding some Nuremberg Trials to see who gets hanged is tantalizing.

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Dojan 8 points 5 days ago

No thank you, why should fixing their mess be our problem? I think the world should impose a quarantine on the U.S. instead, let the U.S. sort itself out.

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FreshParsnip 3 points 5 days ago

Put the Untied States on time out until it behaves

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kreskin 2 points 4 days ago

I do agree travel bans should be used more often. No travel visas for Israels anywhere would be a good start.

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Damage 6 points 5 days ago

Not touching that crap with a ten meter pole, thanks

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Denvil 2 points 5 days ago

Get countless of their own people killed to save us Americans from ourselves until the next pedophile president comes along?

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kreskin 1 point 4 days ago

Invading the US would be extremely difficult.

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dreadbeef -4 points 5 days ago

If Europe wants to lose, sure.

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dudeface 19 points 5 days ago

Growing up in New Zealand we looked up to the USA as most nations did

It has been downhill since 9/11

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EntheoNaut 20 points 5 days ago

Exactly, the year before actually when Bush stole the election from Gore. To me that marks the start of the decline of the US.

Really though Reagan kicked it all off but the actual collapse started in 2000.

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DarkCloud 5 points 5 days ago

Alternative pitch, your politics were under developed in that era - and a lot of people in the mainstream culture were (through things like TV, an uncritical education system, and a lack of information) able to be politically inactive, and fairly unaware.

Because really you should have been sus on America and all the colonial countries and their parent countries for a long long time now.

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gibmiser 4 points 5 days ago

The internet supercharged political awareness when for a long time we were willfully ignorant, or it seems that way to me

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FistingEnthusiast 4 points 5 days ago

Sadly, Aotearoa has gone down the populist right-wing path with Luxon and his merry band of cunts

I hope everyone who voted for National at the last election suffers a week of uncontrollable dribbling shits and learn to be better people

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chocrates 4 points 5 days ago

I sadly think we have another 10 to 15 of this at least, as well.

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ViceroTempus 2 points 5 days ago

Sooner we organize and wield our power as a group, the faster it'll be over, and the safer we will all be. It's going to hurt either way, at least if we organize we'll have control over how and with hope of a better future.

The longer we wait though....

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FreshParsnip 4 points 5 days ago

I've been screaming for people to realize that the law doesn't matter if nobody is enforcing it. Absolutely nothing is stopping Trump from becoming a dictator. Maybe more people will open their eyes after midtetms

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DandomRude 3 points 5 days ago

I think the U.S. will decline much more quickly. The Orange Guy has been in office for barely more than a year and a half, again—the damage he’s done this time around is pretty much irreparable.

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zd9 3 points 5 days ago

Everyone should absolutely vote at a minimum, but only voting isn't going to get us out of this shit. It'll take mass protests, general strike, and [ Removed by Reddit ].

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FreshParsnip 1 point 5 days ago

People keep thinking I'm saying don't bother voting when I say the midterms aren't going to save them. I guess my brain is wired differently than theirs. I don't think a hopeless situation means don't bother doing anything. I think yeah duh, you gotta try what you can

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FreshParsnip 1 point 5 days ago

It's not falling fast enough

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HumanOnEarth 3 points 5 days ago

Nuh uh

  • America
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Malyca 1 point 5 days ago

Empire falls predictably, nation pulls a Pikachu face

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uriel238 2 points 5 days ago

All empires do.

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Professorozone 40 points 5 days ago

I know it's a meme but I really wish they would quote sources. Now I have to look it up. The burden is on the one making the claim.

EDIT: Ok, I looked it up and it seems like BS. It may be true and would be easy to believe but White House maintenance is not a line item that is broken out. The amount spent is divided into many different buckets appropriated by Congress (probably on purpose) and is difficult if not impossible to determine. The term maintenance would need to be uniformly defined. Does it include secret service infrastructure, for instance? There have been a number of instances that have exceed $2.5M. It also seems pretty clear that Trump's "maintenance" budget is the highest ever. But Bush and Obama both spent hundreds of millions of dollars to essentially reinforce the aging structure.

You're welcome.

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spaghettiwestern 11 points 5 days ago

If you're going to complain about the lack of sources, you might take the time to do accurate research before calling BS. The source took took me about 3 minutes to find. From the Washington Post:

The Executive Residence, which employs housekeepers, curators, calligraphers and carpenters, has not previously managed major construction efforts, experts said. In recent years, Congress has appropriated $2.5 million annually to its maintenance account, known as "White House Repair and Restoration."

Since Trump took office, the administration has directed $875 million to that account, public budget records show.

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SalmiakDragon 6 points 5 days ago

If you’re going to complain about the lack of sources, you might take the time to do accurate research before calling BS.

What? Not how that works. Thanks for ultimately providing a source though.

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Professorozone 2 points 5 days ago

THE BURDON OF PROOF IS ON THE ONE MAKING THE CLAIM! You should have included the link in the first place. And I DID do research, where do you think the entire edit came from? Are those points covered in the Washington Post piece? I don't know because it's behind a pay wall and I'm not paying to verify a friggin meme on the Internet. According to the research I did, there simply is no line item that refers to White House Maintenance. It has to be derived by culminating a number of other allocations to come up with that answer because yes, other construction projects have been done there. They just weren't funded the same way. So you wind up getting apples and oranges.

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spaghettiwestern -1 points 5 days ago

MORE CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE! Do you bitch about every Political Memes post that lacks footnotes? That must keep you very, very busy, professor. It's hilarious that you first complain about no sources and when one is provided you then expect to be given a WA Post subscription so you can verify (and undoubtedly complain about) every word.

Why are the people who never post anything the same people who want to police what everyone else posts?

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Professorozone 0 points 4 days ago

I want sources because I use them in arguments against people who support the crap that's happening. So yeah, I'm going to bitch when someone posts something I'm interested in without one, but instead puts the burden on every single reader who also wants to prevent the spread of misinformation.

And no I don't expect someone to give me a subscription to WAPO to verify the article. That's just you throwing around yet more hyperbole. And I'm pretty sure you know the vast majority of lemmings are not going to try to get around a pay wall, just to verify a post that already supports their opinion.

Also, get bent!

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plyth 5 points 5 days ago

Thanks for looking it up

but I really wish they would quote sources

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JoMiran 31 points 5 days ago

This vinyl is really hard to find.

EDIT: I'm sorry. I seem to have accidentally and totally not on purpose posted this image of a rare vinyl in the wrong community.

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BarneyPiccolo 9 points 5 days ago

Just don't let it happen again, over and over.

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AlecSadler 0 points 5 days ago

Violent revolution is the answer, but it won't happen.

Neither will a general strike.

Neither will midterm elections.

I am not blaming anyone, we're all living in survival mode in some way, shape, or form - by design - and things will happen as expected...by design.

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zd9 6 points 5 days ago

A general strike is the only thing that would actually work though

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uriel238 10 points 5 days ago

Actually, no.

See, the ultra-wealthy are really rich. More so than they've ever been in history.

And a lot of economists, including Nobel laureates, are saying the only way to fix this situation is to redistribute all the wealth at the top.

Anything else may kick the can down the line for a couple of years.

And what is happening in the US is going to happen to all the industrialized nations. (It's already happened to all the undeveloped nations.)

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zd9 3 points 5 days ago

How bout this? Let's do a general strike and test it out.

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FreshParsnip 1 point 5 days ago

Why does the majority not simply seize wealth from the minority and redistribute it? Why can't society just collectively decide money from billionaires had no value? It's so frustrating seeing the majority allow a minority of rich people ruin everything when money is a social construct, meaningless if we all collectively decide it is

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breadsmasher 29 points 5 days ago

There was another option on the ballot which meant this wouldnt have happened.

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speaksintv 12 points 5 days ago

With that weird laugh though????

/s

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ayyy 1 point 5 days ago

And I assume she got there via popular democratic choice, right?

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Bubbaonthebeach 24 points 5 days ago

He's pocketing the whole thing. He's gluing fake gold onto WhiteHouse fixtures to make it seem like money is being spent but mostly he and his family are just pocketing the majority of it.

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hitmyspot 6 points 5 days ago

Fools gold, so to speak.

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plyth 21 points 5 days ago path: 0 25305608, hotness: undefined, score: 21, children: 2
theneverfox 6 points 4 days ago

Why would it be a datacenter? We have lots of federally controlled datacenters. And data can be transferred at the speed of light, even if they want a direct line from the white house to a dedicated datacenter it'd probably be built in northern Virginia

It's not a datacenter underneath, it's a luxury bunker. Trump alludes to it all the time when he talks about "the ballroom". He always speaks of the ballroom as a matter of safety

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Tekkers 3 points 4 days ago

From the article

And this has to be at the White House specifically because location determines oversight. When infrastructure is part of the Executive Office of the President, when it exists at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, it can be classified under executive privilege. The East Wing sits directly above the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, the bunker where Dick Cheney sheltered during September 11th. By demolishing the entire East Wing, you create space to expand that existing secure facility, integrate new infrastructure, go deeper underground. All protected by the classification that covers anything related to presidential security.

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aeronmelon 14 points 5 days ago

And the White House has never been in more disrepair and parts of it literally look bombed.

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cy888 4 points 5 days ago

1812 British burned the white house

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Imgonnatrythis 4 points 5 days ago

It's been awhile guys, wanna maybe do it again? Whomever has to move in there next will thank you.

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ZILtoid1991 11 points 5 days ago

When Fidesz campaigned for getting elected in 2010, they only asked for one or two terms.

Once they got elected, they asked until 2030.

Around 2020, their think tanks claimed we can only think about a "post Fidesz society" after 2050.

Meanwhile I've heard that some people within the party wanted to turn the words "liberalism" and essentially "democracy" into synonyms of "chaos".

The moment mothers scold their children for having a messy room by telling them there's democracy in their room rather than anarchy, we have finally won, and turned democracy into an unthinkable ideology.

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FistingEnthusiast 9 points 5 days ago

All because some stupid, ignorant bigots wanted to "own the libs"

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uriel238 3 points 5 days ago

They've been conditioned to want to own the libs for a while now, and FOX News has gotten super good at it.

The fear and outrage and open bigotry are the hook that pulls people in. Then the red-pills (the conspiracy theories) invite the viewer to disregard all other news sources that run contrary. They're being gaslighted the same way an abusive spouse isolates their partner so there is no where else to go. Soon the viewer is in an information silo, just them and FOX News, alone together.

And then every story confirms the MAGA ideology.

I don't know if there's a counter for it. Reagan got rid of Fairness doctrine in news media, and our education system long decided that critical thinking skills beget disobedience.

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Tollana1234567 4 points 5 days ago

to escape from and distract from krasnovs dear friend, epstein, and to keep ms maxwell quiet.

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 5 days ago

He moves in, and immediately tears up half the place, and now he has to spend his entire term staring out at a big muddy hole. He's such a redneck, the next thing will be wrestling matches in the front yard.

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BarneyPiccolo 3 points 5 days ago

Naw, he's doing this for the next guy. /S

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altphoto 2 points 4 days ago

But again... He's 80. So..

They pile up everyone past 70, cuz there aren't many left by that age.

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altphoto 2 points 4 days ago

Cmon! Drink up!

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Imgonnatrythis 2 points 5 days ago

It's just upfront spending. He plans to stay president for another 346 years. It will come out in the wash.

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dudeface 2 points 5 days ago

Pretty shit for a dictator if that is what he is going for

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pelespirit 1 point 5 days ago

Oh he's leaving sooner than later because he's unhealthy, eats like shit and is really old.

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FreshParsnip 2 points 5 days ago

He's gonna live to be 102

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pelespirit 2 points 5 days ago

Hi might, he has a lot of doctors propping his shit up.

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Rivalarrival 1 point 5 days ago

I'm really looking forward to his state funeral.

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bagsy 1 point 4 days ago

the reaper doesn't negotiate.

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IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet 1 point 5 days ago

I'm sure voting will change things! /S

If he's raping America so bad and a criminal than why hasn't any government agency done anything? Yet the same agencies can pin point a crack head from space and figuratively rape their life to death?

This is happening on purpose.

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Proprietary_Blend 0 points 5 days ago

Did you send him this meme? Maybe he doesn't know

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kibblebits -1 points 5 days ago

You guys don’t kill him, so you want him. Goodbye.

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