Definitely this! I lost my love of the show after the 4th season due to the fans.

No one hates star wars / Trek like star wars / Trek fans.

I actually liked the most recent star wars movie. there I said it.

For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.

Id argue we're finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt

it's a tool for a job for me.

to them, it's a religion.

Meanwhile, when novels do have a relatively large fanbase, boy, better stay away from them

Hot Take: Fallout the show is mid. Every season the actors try to save the script, but it dies anyway.

Care to elaborate on the Terraria fanbase? I never got into the game, always liked starbound more, but I could not get from them anything besides condescension regarding any other 2d-survival-whatchamacall-this-genre games. It's terraria or nothing else.

My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).

People that consider the Imperium the good guys.

Also perverts. I was absolutely obsessed with Sonic Archie comics and finding forums as a kid was how I learned about furry porn. Scarred and older, a decade later, saw how cool Sonic Mania was and wanted to interact with others. And there it was again... Pervert shit.

I at least like that a few pieces of Sonic media lampshade this.

In one episode of Sonic Boom (a show designed to be watched high by adults) he’s kidnapped by an aardvark that’s a rabid fan.

“Oh! N-no, I wasn’t trying to escape, I was just…reading some of this fanfiction! Ooh. Sonamy, spicy!”
“Oh. Yeah, I don’t really even care for it, but it seems requisite for the readers.”

This is kinda funny for me because "Sega" is an Italian slang to say "masturbation" which seems rather fitting to the fandom

skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers.

Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.

Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.

all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being 'authentic' and 'cool' into everything. it's a major turn off.

i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can't help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience... were all well-off white people desperately trying to 'signal' they were not like 'white people'.

anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such... because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.

I have no idea what you're talking about, but that's probably a good thing for me.

I really have a hard time reconciling the Trek fans with the shows. Like, how did a person watch [insert any Picard speech] and end up this way?

you're not missing much.

whenever i go to a live show these days i'm like one of 5 people over the age of 30, and everyone else looks like a teenager who is still growing.

I have found another.

Did you try Phoenix Red 2.0 yet? I’m also excited for the 2 demakes of Alola that are upcoming.

Pokémon fans make the best Pokémon games and it's not even close

In the long long ago, in the before time, when a new manga, or anime became popular it wasn't long before the fanbase formed. These weren't your fanbases of today, these were communities to soak up everything there was to their favorite sgow. There was competition and cringe yes, but it had honor, there were boundaries. It was like this for decades.

Then Rick showed us how much he loves Szechuan Sauce and McDonald's thought Rick and Morty was any other fanbase. They were wrong. Now a fanbase is just another segment of the population which can be marketed to and have wealth extracted. Another thing that can be packaged up into a product or video to maximize how much of your money or attention they get.

We're Rick and Morty or McDonald's to blame? No, they were only doing what everyone had been doing for decades. No, the world is different. The shows are different. The whole business is different. We the fans are different. We have to take our favorite thing as far as it will go to get as much as we can, boundaries be damned.

Now I follow the same path you do I...

...don't really care who else likes it though.

I’m interacting with you directly because I’m not the best interactor and I need the practice. Thanks for the reminder.

I have never met ADC fans outside of cons, and there they seemed very fun.

A friend of my fiancee is a fan and put an episode on when we were over once.

I'm autistic but I'm not that fucking autistic. It takes a lot to make me cringe, but that show does it every other line, and seeing the friend squee at this strange rapey clownshow was almost enough for me to ask if we were sure about including them in the wedding party.

Yeah, it's more about individuals. I think we've found a lot of good ones here on Lemmy

Same. The cosy games fandom tends to be alright though. Less neckbeards and people that hammer their own faces.

That’s the difference with political discourse today. You had an obligation to be nice to people in fear of getting punched. Too many people cower behind keyboards with big opinions today because they know if they acted like that in public they would be hit.

I have a group of friends who have very distant opinions on the types of things we like, and having friendly arguments over these things is one of the highlights of my week.

I daren't even enter a forum for any of those hobbies online.

I recently discovered that a band I like not only has a subreddit dedicated to hating it, there's another subreddit dedicated to making fun of the other subreddit. This is in addition to the main subreddit which, can you believe? Is filled with drama over the other two, in addition to gushing over the artist who, quite frankly, is only ok. It's kinda niche so they get a decent following just by filling in an undeserved market.

But if this artist ran over a nun after robbing a bank, it wouldn't even make front page news in LA.

I used to have this... then the woke nutbags came along and decided all that mattered about you was your minor disagreements and you were a demonic evil person. I miss those days.

in real life. but i live in a 'progressive' city full of people who have very reactionary attitudes. 10 years ago nobody cared about these things, and now it's like all they razor focus on and they are super presumptive of.

i literally went out to a place last night i used to hang out at with some friends.... and the stereotypical woke person came up to me and told me I was 'being problematic by taking up the corner' or something, and I was like 'yeah I'm trying to just do my thing here and not bother anyone' and then they proceeded to tell me how i had to move because i was making them uncomfortable by doing my own thing and it bothered them. I rolled my eyes and they went away and I just decided to leave because it's like... I get it you don't want me to be here because I'm don't look like you and it upsets you, even if I am literally just chilling and being nice. but since I take care of myself and am comfortable being quiet and chilling, i'm a 'threat' now.

and way too many of my old friends have become that person... the 'concerned' person who thinks me eating a tuna fish sandwich means I'm now a 'bad person'. It's like, why bother interacting with you at all ever? all they live for is being miserable and whiny and blaming other people for their feelings.

You're smart. Dont join the ufc fan base you'll lose so many braincells.

I watch a lot of the pay per views or whatever they are now and that's it. No websites, no TV reality show, no merch, no fans.

Definitely true. I’m a 43 year old guy who’s loved F1 since the 90’s and living in a small rural town I didn’t even have anyone to talk to about F1 in person. Fortunately, but in the end, unfortunately there is a coworker on a different crew. That is a big Formula 1 fan, but he is a Max fan and I by fan I mean one of “those” Max fans. He is very short tempered about any race that Max doesn’t win and he is still convinced that McLaren cheated last year to win. And also sadly he is very racist towards Lewis and Yuki so I don’t interact with him at all.

Hey I'm really interested in getting into pipe tobacco.

Alas I already smoke, but what would be the best way to start off? Find a good local shop and get lucky or is there a better way?

Thanks for the warning. I was thinking about getting a Gandalf for the weedums but you know how communities work

For sure I don’t think F1 is gonna change for the better anytime soon with the fan base. But yes there are definitely other options to watch. WEC is goated right now and WRC is as well too. The WRC needs some new regulation because it’s slowing becoming off road F1 in terms of cost. Super GT is always has a special place in my heart too.

Fan fiction is culprit number one. Make your own thing, instead of making someone else's thing, but worse.

You have to walk before you can run. Like, I eventually made my own thing, but I couldn't have if I didn't learn from masters first

Yeah, anytime I was fortunate enough to get into something before the wave, it was awesome, and then popularity murdered it. It's just the way she goes. So now I consume whatever it is I'm interested in and just avoid it in the public realm, and it's fine.

Me2. I played a bit after playing a lot of tf2, and found out I wasn't sweaty enough for it.

I love watching it, though, it's one of the most watchable esports (dota2 or overwatch are way too busy for me)

I do tend to not mingle in hltv threads though, as per OP

I'm not a fan of the show at all, I don't care if dudes want boobs and dresses but I'm not entertained or interested. Even expressing something like that bhas gotten me shouted down before, the violence definitely is coming from inside the fan base.

I know a few people who are really into mountain bikes and rock climbing they are extremely big assholes and gatekeepers.

Definitely dodged a bullet.

Please elaborate. I've never heard of this.

I feel that the 2 things that will always ruin something is the fans and cost of merch.

I didn't even know that people discussed Homestuck, therefore I loved it! 🤪

Ain't nothing lonelier in the world than a canadian MotoGP fan....

With F1 fans it’s like a like football/soccer there is a fine line between a fan and a asshole.

You're hoping for people to unknowingly support a transphobic activist? For the sake of enjoying a mediocre book series? Odd priorities.

Yep definitely as an old fan of F1 there is definitely a line between new and old fans.

For sure the last of us 2 the fans of the 2nd game were absolutely awful. When the TV show did the second season seeing the fans of the game going online and harassing fans of the TV show and going after the actress who played Ellie absolutely disgusted me.