O it’s useful or they wouldn’t be doing it. It’s just useful at doing things that are at best questionable. But more likely are just outright illegal.
CorneliusTalmadge 15 points 13 hours ago
BooBees 4 points 6 hours ago
It’s useful not in a here and now way, but in a “we need this as a critical part of the upcoming technocratic feudal autocracy you all will be enslaved in, so we know where to send the ai robot dogs to put down any potential uprisings before they start” kind of way.
GalacticSushi 31 points 11 hours ago
An estimated 460,000 children go missing in the US every year. Flock cameras have not helped to solve this problem one iota.
Flock cameras are being used to stalk ex-girlfriends, surveil recreational pot users, harass women who get abortions, and creep on children.
They were never meant to solve crimes.
not_a_username 8 points 9 hours ago
this is what I came here to say. Flock/mass surveillance will never be used to our benefit.
anomnom 1 point 33 minutes ago
Also what percentage of those missing children are part of estranged parents or relatives.
A thing the flock cameras will never really be able to help with (even if they were reliable and intelligent).
PancakesCantKillMe 4 points 11 hours ago
FBI: It’s the same picture.
_stranger_ 12 points 6 hours ago
Let's be clear here, "solving crime" is just "violating your rights" with "because presumably a Judge allowed it" sauce on top.
uriel238 12 points 5 hours ago
This is your periodic reminder that Flock Safety is only the tip of the problem.
Some districts are de-Flocking only to install an Axon ALPR network service. Keep fighting until your community outlaws all ALPRs and ALPR lookups are inadmissable in court.
There are other technologies that are already in use and widely abused by law enforcement such as IMSI catchers, geofence warrants and Drones as First Responder. Learn what your district allows and be a civil nuisance untill that shit is blocked.
Judges have long ceased tightly constraining judicial warrants, and most courts accept the good faith exception, so US and state courts cannot be trusted with any overreaching surveillance technology or forensic tools. This includes chromatic field drug tests and detection dogs.
thermal_shock 11 points 14 hours ago
Still falls under violating rights as they pull the wrong car over with violence and at gunpoint.
RememberTheApollo_ 4 points 11 hours ago
Just standard modern conservatism. Wrecking people’s lives is worth catching the cast majority of people doing nothing wrong. But you might.
Stinkywizzleteats 1 point 6 hours ago
don't forget religious people. that's where conservatives get all their ideas.
RoidingOldMan 2 points 9 hours ago
October 31st.
FauxPseudo 2 points 11 hours ago
Flock cameras also create crime. The company will say things like they have measures to prevent abuse but they don't. For handling a abuse after it happens. And abuse is a euphemism for crime like stalking.
Lushed_Lungfish 1 point 5 hours ago
What rights?
Return_of_Chippy 1 point 5 hours ago
To bare arms
Lushed_Lungfish 3 points 2 hours ago
If you think you're hard enough to take a bear's arms, you go right ahead.
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If Flock was really useful it should be pretty easy for them to produce statistics showing as much.
The fact that they can’t or won’t says a lot.
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