Trump admin’s proposed US Census rules could mean ‘forced outing’ for trans Americans

23 days ago by TRAHR to c/news

Trump administration proposes 2030 Census rules requiring biological-sex questions.

The Trump administration is proposing sweeping changes to the rules governing the 2030 US Census, including a requirement that could make questions about biological sex mandatory for respondents, a change critics say could effectively force transgender people to disclose their trans status to the federal government.

Catoblepas 50 points 23 days ago

If it just says ‘biological sex’ without defining it then I’m marking male, because anatomy and hormones are both a part of your biological sex 🤷‍♂️

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Tiral -40 points 23 days ago

Anatomy and hormones you produce, yes. Injecting yourself with massive amounts of synthetic testosterone or estrogen isn't part of your biological sex. Just mark whatever the hell you want, it's a stupid survey. If you need it to validate yourself you have a lot bigger problems.

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Cytobit 14 points 23 days ago

Synthesis is not abiological. On the contrary, synthesis implies that the formation of a substance was intended by a biological organism.

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frongt -4 points 22 days ago

Sure but it wasn't your biology.

Personally I don't think they'd be able to tell the difference between someone not responding and a response being lost in the mail. The USPS is notoriously unreliable and should be privatized, donchaknow.

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CentipedeFarrier 8 points 22 days ago

They send people to your address if they don't get a response, since its based off addresses and not people.

I had multiple people show up multiple times the last time we had a census cuz I didn’t want to deal with it. It doesn't just go away.

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village604 4 points 22 days ago

So, I'm not a male because my testicles just decided to stop producing testosterone, so I have to supplement it?

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BillDaCatt 45 points 23 days ago

Can't single people out if everyone joins the party. I identify as trans now!

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violetrage 33 points 23 days ago

holy shit this is the kind of effective cis allyship we need

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Triumph 15 points 23 days ago

I'm right there with you.

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newthrowaway20 32 points 23 days ago

Well that's a good way to get people not to do the census.

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ChonkyOwlbear 44 points 23 days ago

That's the point. Undercount more liberal areas so they have less representation.

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ExtremeDullard 25 points 23 days ago

...Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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melsaskca 20 points 23 days ago

It could mean "forced outing". It could also mean "non-representational census data". People can lie just like trump.

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Sunflier 3 points 22 days ago

Right. You're not under oath when it comes to the census, so you can disclose whatever on it

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isyasad 17 points 23 days ago

The only thing that matters is who wins the 2028 election. This can all be reversed and census is not until 2030

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wheezy 4 points 23 days ago

2028 is the start of resistance mate. By 2030 we're either in foxholes or, at best, working towards building a class conscious movement that will inevitably be broken by capital. You gotta think beyond the next election. This level of corruption isn't being fixed by a midterm or a single presidential run.

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crispbacon99 2 points 23 days ago

We need a modern Nuremberg trial for Republican and AIPAC dems that funded the genocide Israel is committing. I don't know how Americans sleep at night knowing trump installed Todd Blanche who quite explicitly said "not a single page more of the epstein files is coming out". It's obvious that humans anyone who so vehemently jumps to defend Israel's government is compromised or worse

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Bluedragon012 1 point 22 days ago

For me to sleep, I have to use medication that requires a prescription.. That is the only way I can sleep at all.

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tomi000 -9 points 23 days ago

There are still people who believe there is gonna be another election? Cute

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TronBronson 8 points 23 days ago

Yea i mean im voting in November. Hopefully you are too? There was a primary, there's volunteers, we're having an election in november??

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tomi000 -3 points 23 days ago

Im not coz luckily I dont live in the United States of Pedophilia. But dont get me wrong, I hope for you that youre going to have elections in 28, pretty sure you wont though.

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TronBronson 1 point 23 days ago

Well again, we’re having an election in November. And we’re all eagerly waiting. You theory will be more sound if you wait until November and interpret the results. It will certainly be relevant. Which country is it that you live in? Must be nice to not have a far right political party creeping into ultimate power??? Obviously you’re not from Germany, right???

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slevinkelevra 3 points 23 days ago

Well an "election" for sure. And their supreme court will find a way to decide the midterms, somehow.

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magnue 3 points 23 days ago

I genuinely don't think there will be one. If there is it will be similar to russian elections where the outcome is predetermined. We have the Paul brothers visiting the pentagon. The president is all over the Epstein files whilst they cover up the rest. Blatant corruption of markets in the Iran war.

Nothing happens.

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ImgurRefugee114 13 points 23 days ago

ah, fascists and their lists.

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fonix232 7 points 23 days ago

He’s making a list, he’s checking it twice, Obergruppenführer Strauss is coming to town

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ThePantser 12 points 23 days ago

What would prevent someone just claiming their identified sex as their census answer? What's the penalty?

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NaibofTabr 10 points 23 days ago

They make a comparison with your birth certificate, then remove your right to vote because your documents are fake or whatever.

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Catoblepas 11 points 23 days ago

The federal government doesn’t administer elections, that’s explicitly laid out in the constitution as a state power

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adarza 11 points 23 days ago

the government does not get free access to census responses, either. it's protected data. the census bureau produces statistics and numbers, it is not a surveillance arm for the feds. it has to be that way, otherwise half the country or more would either lie or not respond at all.

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warbond 3 points 23 days ago

Doesn't the state use census data? The state could also be dicks

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Catoblepas 5 points 23 days ago

To determine voter eligibility? No, people move more than once a decade.

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frongt 0 points 22 days ago

That hasn't stopped them yet.

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TronBronson 11 points 23 days ago

Oh we're close enough to the election that they gotta bully trans people for votes.... will it work again?

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TRAHR 14 points 23 days ago

Start? They haven’t stopped, the only ones who have recently started joining in with them area a bunch of Dems.

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TronBronson 5 points 23 days ago

You're right. You know what i mean, they're gonna crank the volume to 12/10.

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TrickDacy 7 points 23 days ago

To all the people who told us trump wouldn't do bad thing x, y, and z. FUCK YOU.

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omghi 2 points 23 days ago path: 0 25935765, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Arcanepotato 1 point 23 days ago
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wheezy 0 points 23 days ago
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spacegoat 4 points 23 days ago

What? It’s not optional. It’s one of the most widely-used examples of compulsory civic actions

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HubertManne 1 point 22 days ago

its also used as a basis for federal funding although given trump is pretty much getting rid of that could be moot.

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