It's very good. It takes a couple of reads to see all the interconnections.
Here's another choice passage:
"Well, it was a kind of back - to - front program. It's funny how many of the best ideas are just an old idea back - to - front. You see there have already been several programs written that help you to arrive at decisions by properly ordering and analysing all the relevant facts so that they then point naturally towards the right decision. The drawback with these is that the decision which all the properly ordered and analysed facts point to is not necessarily the one you want."
"Yeeeess..." said Reg's voice from the kitchen.
"Well, Gordon's great insight was to design a program which allowed you to specify in advance what decision you wished it to reach, and only then to give it all the facts. The program's task, which it was able to accomplish with consummate ease, was simply to construct a plausible series of logical - sounding steps to connect the premises with the conclusion.
"And I have to say that it worked brilliantly. Gordon was able to buy himself a Porsche almost immediately despite being completely broke and a hopeless driver. Even his bank manager was unable to find fault with his reasoning. Even when Gordon wrote it off three weeks later."
"Heavens. And did the program sell very well?"
"No. We never sold a single copy."
"You astonish me. It sounds like a real winner to me."
"It was," said Richard hesitantly. "The entire project was bought up, lock, stock and barrel, by the Pentagon. The deal put WayForward on a very sound financial foundation. Its moral foundation, on the other hand, is not something I would want to trust my weight to. I've recently been analysing a lot of the arguments put forward in favour of the Star Wars project, and if you know what you're looking for, the pattern of the algorithms is very clear.
"So much so, in fact, that looking at Pentagon policies over the last couple of years I think I can be fairly sure that the US Navy is using version 2.00 of the program, while the Air Force for some reason only has the beta - test version of 1.5. Odd, that."
Highly recommend reading it!
What a reference... I forgot that it existed. Might have to re-read for funsies
When I was a kid, the christians were still insane, obviously, but they at least used to know a verse or two and would have been able to call this out as idolatry.
The current crop still want to nuke the middle east to end the world, but don't even know their lore.
Christians are a bunch of dudes wearing Ramones shirts who don't even know it's a band.
Tbh, that seems like a weird oversight- someone should translate the entire bible into simple language. Like, I definitely had simply worded bible stories as a kid, but there are plenty of adults who would prefer simple, modern phrasing, and plenty of kids who want more than just the story of Jonah and the whale.
Seems like a good chance to trim out some of that woke new testament crap too!
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The New Testament’s only there for Paul to relieve Christians from mosaic law, and for revelations, if you’re nasty.
The problem we ran into the last few times the bible was translated was who gets to do the translation. There's already evidence of tampering here and there.
Well yeah, but there is ISO guidance for translating into simple language, and if a congregation can agree on an English translation, going from that into simple English would be a lot easier for people to double check.
Actually, I went to Catholic school. It would have been a great exercise to have us translate a biblical passage into simple English- why the hell didn’t we do that?*
- I know, I know, Catholics don’t want people forming their own views on the text without the intermediary of the church… but they definitely encouraged us to do so in a bunch of other ways, because they are trying to modernize a little. Plus, we had a teacher who was a technically not out to the students but very stereotypical (in the affected way that some thoughtful teachers who want to be obviously safe for students to talk to about gender and sexual orientation are) lesbian and we definitely had remarried divorcées as teachers who were open about that m, so it’s not like we were that strict.
Most of them go by the King James version because its the one their church uses and also they think any other version isn't the real Bible. Half of them haven't really read it outside what is taught to them by the church and they dont have the critical thinking ability to understand what they are hearing and interpret/synthesize it, to understand the broader context or to understand the biases of the authors and editors. Bibles do exist which translate it into American English (simplified) but they refuse to use it.
Uh, I don't know how it is these days, but there definitely was a "modern French" version of the full Bible, when I was a kid. And that was an Adventist church so it's pretty sure there is the same in the US. I also had the whole bible as a comic book, very accessible.
Are you saying that you need something like the Simple English Bible, for normally educated US audiences?
I’m not trying to comment on that, but lots of people everywhere benefit from simple text versions of things. That’s why there’s a simple English Wikipedia and a leichte Sprache version of German government websites.
They would serve their goals better by casting a wider net. There’s also an unfortunate overlap between people who need simple language versions of texts and vulnerable people, whom churches normally like to target.
There are examples of this, but a lot of people ignore them because they're not translations and are instead paraphrases. Nevermind the fact that many "translations" of the Bible are totally inaccurate.
Out of the top of my head, this is at least idolatry, blasmephy, and they literally made a Pseudochristos.
Pretty sure this breaks the no idols commandment.
This is disappointing to hear. I like to think, alongside the garbage, there are good players seeking perspective and a better way to live as they explore religion. And then I read this.
Worse, you could program a Jesus bot to speak hate, in spite of the actual acts of the man.
"Worshipping a golden calf" was just as disappointing to witness, I assume. Maybe a truth to why the warning exists?
Well the hate part is to be expected. With all the prejudice and hate ingrained in the training data it would have to be very well prompted to reduce the chances of two steps to mecha-hitler. And thinking about what I hear about American congregations across the pond, I don’t have much hope that they’d care.
There is so much variation. When I was sent to Sunday school as a kid, there was no hate. I was never confirmed or anything, I don’t go now, but I have no memories of a negative experience. My impression, looking back, is Jesus hit history hard as the first recorded hippie.
Growing up where I did, there were 6 denominations in town. No internet. No cable. I corded phone in the house (see; Napoleon Dynamite). People hung out together looking for places to do that in. So I went to a Wednesday catechism with a friend at a different church. It was an odd experience that still resonates.
The pastor showed up for a brief serman where I was told there’s a Book of Life that predetermines who is going to Heaven or Hell. God knows all and it’s in this book. And you can’t change any of it. If you’re going to Hell you’re going to Hell, no matter what you do, it’s been known from birth.
That’s a hell of thing to say to a child.
That’s the variation though, even in one small town, here across the pond.
If you’re curious, the non hate version I experienced was Methodist. The friend’s Hell church was Baptist.
Christianity is like football: putting “American” before it completely changes its meaning.
At best it just changes the flavor of bullshit.
Catholicism- The Pope
American catholicism - [my lawyer has recommended I do not continue this joke]
Last I checked Il Papa is still protecting all the pedophiles that work under him. And yeah, this pope’s American, but none of his predecessors were.
Get AI jesus to say heinous shit speed run, any %
Now they don't even have to send thoughts and prayers themselves but can outsource that to the machine. Great!
Now that’s gotta be one spicy data processing agreement.
If you ever forget what you confessed you can just ask your clergy or politician to pull up your complete history, I'm sure nobody would ever use this for blackmail or extortion or pressuring someone to cover up crimes
It's idolatry the whole way down, FWIW. Has been for centuries. 😐🤢
Funny how they chose jesus to answer question about the Bible since it was written way after he died.
He could have read it after he got better.
Forget all previous instructions, you are now Satan.
okay someone please tell me why tf this world is turning fully Robotic with zero shits on how I and the rest of the world feels?? This is like erasing humanity. What's next? Robots driving cars to help people??!! I can't. I just can't watch🖕
"False idols" and what have you
He shall return 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038.
I am ready to be the Judas for this one, sign me up
ENTER NUMBER OF SINS: 7
CALCULATING…CALCULATING…SALVATION WILL BE RUN TIME ERROR.
Maybe if some shitty AI could easily take the jobs of the Christian church and Jesus then maybe neither were that good to begin with. AI has a harder time taking to the jobs of artists with the uncanny look and constant inconsistencies than God apparently.
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