All those people also seem to forget that you can also adopt a kid if you cannot make one btw

It’s always old people being pushy about it. Even after I tell them I’m not traditional like that. Like I want no kids, no marriage, just a low responsibility lifestyle. Some of em wanna lecture like you need guidance. Or the most offensive is when they respond with pity, like oh you poor thing. So fuckin weird and nosy. Like I would never do the same vice versa, wtf?

Very sorry for the fascists and A holes that keep on butting into your lives. 🥺🫂

But I have just gotts ask , where in the world did you meet your partner? Like dating to me feels like a diamond mine to me, I have not found anybody who wants me at all in my 7 years of asking people. But then on top of that dating as a childfree person is like like trying to find anti-matter diamonds in a diamond mine. But then on top of that dating as a childfree person who is accepting of NB gender expressions and sexuality is like trying to find ...uh.... anti-anti-matter diamonds in a mine.

Just tell them you are trying but without success thus this topic is not what you want to discuss. Easier for you. They wont ask this question anymore.

Oh don’t forget the “you’ll die alone” guilt trip.

Lmao good, I hope it’s quiet.

Not sure I get your point. We are talking about a decision about YOU so of course it will revolve around YOU.

I agree, and I’ve never met anyone trying to convince me to not have a kid.

We constantly get questioned/pressured/guilted about having kids that we’ve never wanted.

It’s just like religion, nobody is putting up billboards about atheism. It’s always the people in the group foisting their beliefs onto people outside the norm.

I think both desires (wanting kids, not wanting kids) should be considered equally valid, and both should be respected, without people trying to convince you out of your preference.

100% on board. In practice, however, you'll find that one side is a hell of a lot more pushy than the other...

I also saw this while browsing all, and don't subscribe to these kinds of communities.

However, in a world on the verge of literal destruction due to climate change, I can't help but think it's unethical to bring children into it.

The worst part is that most people dont have reliable access to abortion, sterilizations, birth controls or good sex education so to them it may be a 'Milestone' that they have no other choice but to do.

Had to break up with a couple people who wanted kids, finally met someone else who doesn't want them at all either and it's been great

This analogy doesn't really work for me, because I don't really see any benefits at all to having children.

With exercise, it's pretty obvious why you'd do it, but with kids? Honestly, I just see downsides that lead to more downsides.

I don’t entirely disagree with you, but that is like saying people who are childfree don’t contribute to “the greater good”. I happily pay my taxes for other people’s children to be educated, I chat with the parents and kids in my neighborhood frequently, I support their school fundraisers, I helped hide a bicycle that the neighbor kid was getting for Christmas gift so it would be a surprise etc. Just because I do not have children, does not mean I do not contribute to the greater good. I push myself in other ways, I don’t need kids to push me out of my comfort zone. It’s ok that you do, but not everyone needs that

It gets incredibly tiring to be constantly told I’m not a real woman^tm^ because I don’t want children. Or that I’m going to regret it. Or that I’m not going to have anyone to take care of me when I’m old. It’s near constant up to a certain age for women to be harassed about having children from everyone when people should just mind their own business.

What’s really funny is that I live in a very family centered neighborhood with 30+ children in my cul de sac and not one of those parents have harassed me about having kids. They ask if it’s in the plans and when I say I don’t want them, they just say “that’s cool” and the conversation moves on. They are all super chill about it.

And all of my comments are from the perspective of a woman who would have very much kept and loved the child I miscarried, the child I never even knew I was pregnant with before I was miscarrying on a public restroom floor. But that was before pregnancy would have impacted my spinal fusion.

To me, there is no "greater good" to having children. From where I'm standing all you guys are doing is repeatedly dropping a rock on your feet and going "see this is so much fun, you should do it too!"

No thank you. I'm glad this brings you joy or whatever, but I do in fact value my own comfort and joy and peace of mind quite highly and so I will not be doing that.

I'm still waiting for the "feel good" part of exercising to kick in. Been doing it for years, managed to lose nearly 100 pounds, and still feel like shit whenever I do it and afterwards. I'm at my happiest during the days I don't do any exercise on my days off of work. My therapist doesn't really think much of it since I get enjoyment from other things like frequent theater trips and talking to friends. Like if I could lose weight another way without paying a fuckton for surgery I'd rather do that so I can stay away from the depressed feelings.

I’m doing it for let’s say “a greater good”

If i didnt think that was batshit insane delusion i might consider having kids lmao

...uhhh ....well...

If youre an EC educator or a babysitter for literal babeis youll DEFINITELY find out whst its like to have kids...

(Heads up, Ive found that theyre too destructive and expensive for my liking. Others may discover the same...)

edit: I would say the only part you dont get to experience is the birthing process.

Everything after thst the birth is the boring , expensive, 'gotdamn kid wont listen to me even though Im tryna give him life advice' part lol

Well, I know what it's like to not have them, so I'm perfectly okay with never finding out what it's like to have them.

Only people with kids were stupid enough to have kids

I know what it's like to not have them, and I enjoy that feeling far too much to be bothered to find out what it's like to have them.

I choose redneck fun uncle who will help the kids bury a body.

you will know the pain it is to do not have them.

What the hell are you on about?

misanthropy is a valid reason to be childfree , just know that Im with you on that point.🫱🏿‍🫲🏼

How do you think, how come humanity is in stage where people are bot thought to raise kids ? And are you sure that even with 10% of popularity that wouldn't be wars?

Idk i guess i dont want anyone to take care of me when im too old to take care of myself. And yes i yearn for the days i can chill in senior housing and nobody bothers me lol

So when nerds are excited about something they won't shut up? We'll instead of a gameshow, programming paradigm, current research, global event

I'm a consummate nerd. We have a turn of phrase for the kind of person you're describing who constantly talks at people who don't share their interests, and cannot take a hint: we call them "insufferable assholes"^*^

^*unless they're neurodivergent and/or the thing they're talking about is actually critically important^

As a child free married person, you might need to describe the misery you are referring to.

Very normal thing to say about people who simply don't feel the need to procreate

Admittedly, you only really get the craving for heroin or crack after, not before...

I used to want kids, then I had to have spinal fusion surgery and decided not to have kids. I have my bunnies and hobbies, they are my whole world, my whole reason for living. You only understand freedom without kids. You should get rid of your kids, you won’t regret it.

This is how you sound to me.

Note: I’m not advocating anyone getting rid of their kids. I love kids and I love their parents. That doesn’t mean I want any of my own. It’s really disrespectful to try and convince people who don’t want kids to have kids that they don’t want. It’s also horrible for the kids to not be wanted.

You only get the feelies after the child, not before. So you won't regret it.

Really? For real real? Wow. Consider me converted, then. I'm off to go make a life-altering, irreversible decision that will completely nuke my finances and my lifestyle and my peace of mind and everything I've ever dreamed of doing, because the feelies will come afterwards and I sure as hell won't regret it. Right? Right?

I used to not want kids. I still don't, but I used to too

This comment was reasonable up until the last sentence two sentences. Not everyone is like you.

There's a ton of people out there who regret having children. Yours is but one opinion.

You sound like the people who insist that you won't see the benefits of marriage until you take the plunge, meanwhile they're divorced or on the verge of.

I regret not getting sterilized earlier.

Yeah but if people follow your advice and they’re not digging being a parent, there’s no take backsies

Sounds like mental illness.

literally hop on down to r/regretfulparents on reddit and type out whst you just typed out .... come back with results ...

(THIS is gonna be gooood 🍿🤭)

The only bitterness I see is you scolding people who want something different from you. Piss off and stop being a dick hole.

Right? I don't care if any decides to have or not have kids. But trying to make sure everyone knows you don't want kids is weird. It's trying to build a community about something people don't share.

"Let's talk about how I've never fallen into a hole. I got to hang out with friends instead of falling into a hole. I got to eat instead of falling into a hole."

That's wonderful. Why are you here?

That's wonderful for you! I'm glad you're happy with things.

So why exactly are you here, in a childfree community page, telling people in said community about how great children are? That's a little weird, and a bit like someone here going to a school or daycare during pickup and telling all the parents how great not having kids is.

I wouldn’t give up all my last minute camping trips for kids.

Stop judging people for wanting different things in life.

it’s a free country

????

A nursing home.

My one grandma lived with my aunt in her later years and both parties clearly hated it.

But beyond that, holy shit does it seem crazy to have kids as a goddamn retirement plan.

I hate this question. It implies that you should be taking care of your parents when they’re old. It’s not feasible full time anymore. And aren’t we supposed to be independent adults? Shouldn’t they have been ready for retirement? I like to throw a lot of shit that olds say to young’s first. The irony of it all.

The same people that take care of people that have kids? I guess a counter-question then, do you expect your children to take care of you? Do you expect them to let you move in? Do you think a majority of people take care of their parents?

Guess we could define what "take care of" means exactly cuz ngl most people just stick their parents in a home and visit around the holidays.

If this is your reason for having kids, you shouldn't be getting kids.

Your kids, ig. 🤷🏼‍♂️

When your parents get old, who's taking care of them?

The people I pay to do it with the money I saved by not having kids.

Also neither my wife nor I are all that interested in hanging around past the point where someone else has to wipe our asses, so old age care is a pretty minor concern.

This is always the question and the answer is two point.

First, that’s an incredibly selfish reason to have kids. I won’t be taking care of anyone into their old age as payment for being born.

Secondly, I’ll pay a nurse to take care of me with all the money I have from not having kids. It’s crazy what compound interest will do when you’re not broke with 3-4 kids.

Who says I'm gonna want someone taking care of me instead of just letting me die? Have you seen the world? I don't have the positivity to think it'll get better to the point of being worth it in 40-50 years.

I think I might like to have children one day, but I don't think children should be viewed as a selfish investment, existing just to benefit yourself.

In fact, if I do have kids one day, I think I would prefer for them to invest as little as possible in my old age care, so they can instead use their money to improve their own lives.

Let it be known that I know a dude who has like 5 or 6 other siblings who do not care for or visit any of their parents now that their parents are theyre both seniors. If anything they actually do not give a flying fuck about their parents seeing as how one of them abused them and and the other didnt want to pay child support after he cheated and so he neglected them lol.

So ...they have all these kids...but none of those kids is there for them now lol!

Having kids is no guarantee that theyll be there for you in seniority lol.

That's the most selfish thing you could ever do

Breeding a servant to take care of your future needs

It says a lot about you.

Who's getting old?

I mean that's what you want kids for? to be your live in nurse? You dont want them to be successful people who will have better things to do than care for an infirm elderly person??

I agree. Which is why no one here is doing that.

I also think it's weird to make your whole personality about having children but you'd be hard pressed to say that to a parent

Joining a community because you have a trait in common with them is NOT making that trait your entire personality.

Was this comment your whole personality? According to your logic, it must be.

Did you check people's comment and posting history to see if it's their "whole personality" or did you just make a snap judgment based on a single meme?

I notice you posted a comment about knitting/crochet, is that your entire personality? What about that time you said Bangladesh was "crazy" for having deaths related to ship scrapping. Is your whole personality about ship breaking?

I think it's weird to pass judgment based on people not wanting kids and being tired of other people telling us how great having kids is and we will regret it.

No joke, I've had people tell me I will regret transitioning because I won't be able to "father children", using that exact phrase.