Fuck software that easily could have a setting but doesn't

13 days ago by jxk to c/memes

Stupidmanager 108 points 13 days ago

Uhhh…. Yes it does. I live in Spain and speak English, I’m not signed in, it’s down at the bottom of their page under settings or it will ask you like you see below. No vpn needed. And for apps on your phone it uses the regional setting, but most you can choose the default language in app settings.

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wcSyndrome 56 points 13 days ago

Thought I was taking crazy pills, I've been changing language for search for years. The amount of people flat out agreeing with misinformation in this thread is wild. Plenty of great reasons to shit on Google but c'mon

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ILikeTraaaains 8 points 13 days ago

Check my comment with screenshots of Google including results in Spanish despite having it set in English

https://lemmy.world/comment/26123949

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otter 4 points 13 days ago

It could be some AB testing or regional differences

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Stupidmanager 15 points 13 days ago

AB testing or regional

No. This has been this way for at least a decade. I travel the world, use different phones and devices. This is 99% user error.

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WolvenSpectre 6 points 13 days ago

It has been this way ever since Google made your GMail Login your Google Account login in the 90's. I have a UK English Email and a US English Email because I liked that they called the 'Trash' the 'Bin' in Gmail and it was at least closer to Canadian English which to this day they refuse to recognize.

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Goodeye8 4 points 13 days ago

We can't rule out the service going to shit for no reason. I'm like 99% sure you used to be able to block YouTube channels, you can't do that anymore.

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ILikeTraaaains 14 points 13 days ago

I do live in Spain and speak English too and it mixes English and Spanish. I have it set for both interface and results in English.

It is most egregious when looking for video games and products as their names appear in Spanish websites.

Google front page(mobile version) with the interface in English and detecting Spain as region

Google results page, English interface, for HP EliteBook, the two first results are from HP and Amazon, the results are in Spanish

The results scrolled down, more results in Spanish, the “People also ask” only shows queries in Spanish

Google search page for “rj45 cable UTP or STP”, the interface is in English and the first result is in Spanish

Google result page for the video game “Voice of Cards” showing part of the “people also ask” section in English, the results show a mixture of English and Spanish results, including 3 video results which two of them are in Spanish

Adding the word “review” doesn’t always filter out the Spanish pages as it is adopted in tech websites. Google result page for the search “voice of cards review”, three results shown, one of them in Spanish

EDIT: Typos

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Redjard 5 points 13 days ago

It will also open in the wrong language on every new profile, incognito mode, cookie clear, despite the browser clearly sending that it only wants english language. Likely as punishment for not being trackable.
And it'll ignore the settings for google maps, and always open in the local language anyway no matter what.

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Uri 41 points 13 days ago

I don't even use google. We are not the same

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Fleppensteijn 13 points 13 days ago

To search, no. But YouTube and Maps are hard to replace

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unitedwithme 3 points 13 days ago

Sometimes, sacrifices are necessary.

I gave up social media over a decade ago, and after a few weeks forgot all about it. Found other ways to fill my down time.

This past spring, dove into LineageOS, not using MicroG or anything. All FOSS or at least open source + Proton (along with SimpleLogin for aliases). No MS (besides work), no Google, no banking apps (use browser). Hell, I don't even have a SIM in my phone. I use jmp.chat (phone #) + Snikket (XMPP sever) and Cheogram (communication app for SMS and calls). Sure, explaining that sounds excessive, but to the average person, I've got 99%the same functionality everyone else does.

I get no more spam calls, my battery lasts 2-4 days depending on usage, WAY less email, and I've not received any emails or alerts about data breaches (so far).

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Fleppensteijn 3 points 13 days ago

Lemmy isn't social media?

I've tried alternatives to Maps but honestly nothing comes close.

All bank accounts I have require a phone to log in.

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unitedwithme 3 points 13 days ago

Lemmy is more like a large forum or series of forms. Most people are in communities because of common interest whereas social media is more like looking at people around you or whom you're friends with. It's also anonymous where SM is people standing on their little soap boxes subconsciously screaming, "look at me!".

I'm not saying map replacements are phenomenal. But CoMaps is using Open Street Maps, and for my measly little area I contribute a lot of data because POI are lacking. But for most use cases, its perfectly capable.

While yes, most/all banks require a phone number to login, they can't force you to use the app. My banks require phone numbers for the text verification. Better than nothing but still shitty MFA. So I login through the browser, not app, and I have a VoIP # for text verification codes to go to. Also, the browser UI is close enough to the mobile app it's easy enough.

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bridgeenjoyer 1 point 13 days ago

Assumptions:

You dont have a lot of people to converse with. I need 5 messaging apps to talk to people becuase they all use a different (shitty) one and won't just change to Signal.
You dont travel much or live in the US where WiFi is rare in any area outside heavy urban.

Otherwise, that's cool you can do that. If I did, I'd be talking to maybe 1 other IRL person who even knows wtf xmpp is.

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unitedwithme 2 points 13 days ago

XMPP is what WhatsApp is based on, and is heavily used outside the US.

I use Cheogram for XMPP & SMS/MMS, but because I have the "us number" through jmp.chat I can text regular people in their phones, too. Or call through the standard phone app. I use Signal and SimpleX too, but nobody I personally know uses Simplex.

I use "WiFi" but I hotspot my work phone and use a VPN with a custom set profile and no split tunnel.

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SippyCup 1 point 13 days ago

Inb4 several suggestions for both of those things that leave a lot to be desired in feature parity, but that lemmings will insist are better nonetheless.

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newton 33 points 13 days ago

You guys still use google ? 😂😂😂

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Hakuso 25 points 13 days ago

People still use Google?

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Archangel1313 24 points 13 days ago

Lol! You can literally set your preferred language in "settings".

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realitaetsverlust 17 points 13 days ago

You use google

I usw duckduckgo

We are not the same

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Magnum 3 points 13 days ago

You use DuckDuckGo - I use SearXNG

We are not the same

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SuspiciousCarrot78 9 points 13 days ago

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Magnum 2 points 13 days ago

I told it not to Aggregate DDG. Also having more than DDG is not the same as just having DDG right?

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SuspiciousCarrot78 2 points 13 days ago

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Doom 17 points 13 days ago

My current problem with Google (and a problem that I never thought I would have wtfuck) is when I watch some YouTube videos in French the AI auto translates the goddamn audio to English. I don't want an AI audio translation of the fucking audio and there is no way to set the default not to do that. I have to manually go into the video EVERY TIME IT DOES IT to put it back to the original sound. It'll create new audio but I can't get half the videos to show the in language subtitles for non-english videos. SO DUMB.

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kestrel7_7 19 points 13 days ago

This is one of the stupidest “features” in the history of computing. It’s like google doesn’t believe in bilingual people. “If you speak English, there’s no way you could also understand French!”

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ayyy 4 points 13 days ago

Which is extra ironic since it’s all programmed by bi+lingual Indians lol.

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Damage 1 point 13 days ago

bi+lingual

is that a type of lgbtq+?

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Psythik 5 points 13 days ago

If you're watching on mobile, YouTube Morphe has the option to disable the audio translation. You can even make a dedicated button for it in the player in case it gets toggled on again. The app also blocks ads and has SponsorBlock, DeArrow, and an AI slop filter built right in.

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Wispy2891 2 points 13 days ago

solution: newpipe/freetube

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Altarius 1 point 11 days ago

YouTube does not autotranslate for any language which is set in your Google profile. It's hidden as hell, but for me adding e.g. English there made all the English videos not being ai translated anymore.

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MufinMcFlufin 1 point 13 days ago

I wonder if anyone's made an extension to automatically disable AI auto dub?

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idealism_nearby -2 points 13 days ago

Does the "app language" not do this for you?

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rumschlumpel 13 points 13 days ago

As a multilingual user, fuck me right! I hate it so much that video sites insist on translating video titles, as if I wanted to watch a video in a language I don't speak. Even a VPN doesn't quite solve this, because my normal usage when browsing e.g. YouTube isn't one language or the other but both (though I do prioritize videos in my native language).

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Nugscree 10 points 13 days ago

Because even for that multi billion dollar company their developers still don't understand that country isn't equal to language preference. This has been an issue since the 90's that still isn't solved.

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gole 7 points 13 days ago

Last I checked hl=en from 20 years ago still works reliably across all products, but I can see the new slop slowly creeping up in everything, enjoy it while the slop haven't reached that part.

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aeronmelon 7 points 13 days ago

DuckDuckGo

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SippyCup 6 points 13 days ago

Click on your profile bubble. On Mobile it's in the top right hand corner. Go to settings. Go to other settings. Language and region can be set manually.

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leftzero 4 points 13 days ago

Language and region can be set manually.

But not separately. You can't have the interface in English while on a non English speaking region.

And you can only set one language / region. I'm interested in results in a number of languages (ordered by priority), untranslated unless I fucking ask for a translation, and from a number of possibly unrelated regions (also ordered by priority).

And my region / language isn't an option anyway, so it's either the wrong, English speaking, region, or the closest region but the wrong language.

The whole concept is so profoundly imperialist and ignorant it makes me sick. Whoever perpetrated it is so tragically miseducated they can't even conceive the notion that their users might be able to understand more than one language, or be interested in more than one culture or region.

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Wispy2891 6 points 13 days ago

You understood it wrong. The setting is in the browser itself. Just use anything except google. Maybe one day they will see the 0.001% dip in search and change it

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tough_cookies 5 points 12 days ago

You can change the language by going into advanced tools but it's a bit buried because Google search fucking sucks now. The results will suck regardless of which language you choose. They show you what they want you to see, not what you are actually looking for.

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CrimeIsLegalNow 2 points 10 days ago

And it doesn't work half the time. I don't know how Google decided a profile that's been using English for thirty years suddenly really wanted to see everything in Swedish but it would NOT accept it without swapping to another server first.

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Fleppensteijn 5 points 13 days ago

I use a plugin for that:

https://addons.mozilla.org/...

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Varesti 4 points 13 days ago

It's too bad Google doesn't have some sort of language translation software they could easily use.

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lauha 7 points 13 days ago

Their translation software is total garbage.

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hansolo 4 points 13 days ago

I download all my podcasts with the VPN on my phone set to France or Ireland. The ads are adorably useless and a pleasure to hear.

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AVincentInSpace 4 points 13 days ago

So do we actually respect the Accept-Language header or is that just for tracking now?

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senko 3 points 12 days ago

I feel this is a meme the average sketchy VPN company would share in their social media to catch users.

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brezel 2 points 13 days ago

?hl=en

yw.

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carrylex 2 points 13 days ago

How about https://www.google.com/preferences?lang=1 ???

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DaddleDew 1 point 13 days ago

I use it to make life harder for anyone trying to collect my data out of sheer spite.

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undefined 1 point 13 days ago

I VPN to a country whose language I know nothing about and have literally never had this problem.

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Solrac 1 point 12 days ago

You still use google?

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realitista 1 point 13 days ago

This was ebay for the longest fime

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sigezayaq 1 point 13 days ago

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zangwill 1 point 13 days ago

I think there is an account setting to discourage results based on your location. But my google is set to English, that probably also helps

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slickgoat 1 point 11 days ago

Seems like a good workaround. Why is the superior tone necessary?

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sunbytes 1 point 11 days ago

Some streaming services only offer translation subtitles related to the primary language of where you are.

So if I'm in Germany and want to watch a Swedish crime drama all i can get are German subs.

But if i use a vpn to say I'm in England... the English subs are magically available.

(Provided they also have the license to play the show in England).

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Smoogs 1 point 13 days ago

yup. most things dont have this. try buying an audio book in another language other than english. heck just buying a reading book is hard enough. or getting one that is both without having to buy it twice or not available in both.

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psilotop 2 points 13 days ago

I just bought a recent ebook on Kobo. Two listings for different prices with EVERYTHING on the listing identical except the more expensive one had 2 authors. I had to look up separately that the second author is actually a translator and the more expensive book was a translation. The store listing didn't even have the language! I had to guess by the ethnicity of the translator's name 🤦🤦🤦

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Proprietary_Blend 0 points 13 days ago

Yeah! Fuck!

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adarza -5 points 13 days ago

google ties that setting to your account. you have to sign-in.

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red_tomato 5 points 13 days ago

I’m not signed in and have the option to change language

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Zensate 2 points 13 days ago

Yeah good luck making changing that work

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adarza 3 points 13 days ago

sign-in and change it here for your account, applies while signed in to all google sites:
https://myaccount.google.com/language

or don't sign-in, change it for search only.
https://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en&lang=1&prev=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fpreferences%3Fhl%3Den
this likely uses cookies so it would reset if you clear the one(s) that contain search preferences. the settings link that is actually on google's home page does take you to this.

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Zensate 5 points 13 days ago

All set to English except Region

But does it work? Nopes

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carrylex 1 point 13 days ago

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