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Nokkelost 116 points 4 days ago

Deleted Reddit after I got asked to do this to Confirm my age.

I didn’t need ro access any 18+ content on that platform but for me this was the alarm bell that made me actually delete my account.

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zangwill 48 points 4 days ago

The problem is that Reddit NSFW is an extremely broad category that doesn't only include porn. So many posts and memes are tagged with it. Realizing that I'm now seeing a censored, inauthentic version of Reddit made me delete the app.

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archy 11 points 4 days ago

The whole brutal death metal community is NSFW because if the album covers, and I don't wanna flash my face to that platform just for the music I enjoy listening

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AgaveInMyAss 17 points 4 days ago

Even if you do, RedLib let's you access all that without any ads, trackers, or signing in.

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Lucidlethargy 2 points 4 days ago

Better really, really late than never.

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orca 85 points 4 days ago

Every single one of those websites is not crucial to existence even remotely. Let’s all collectively show them they don’t matter anymore.

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cRazi_man 31 points 4 days ago

Not only are they not necessary, they're actually harmful to existence. Admittedly I use YouTube somewhat through privacy front ends, but quitting all the others has been great for my health. Using nebula has also minimised my use of YouTube.

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Newhere 7 points 4 days ago

Any free alternatives for YouTube?

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ferric_carcinization 6 points 4 days ago

Peertube is probably the closest. I don't really use either, but I've understood that peertube is a bit lacking in content.

As you're here on lemmy.ml, I doubt it, but if you happen to be a "cryptocurrency enthusiast", then odysee might also be an option, though I'm not sure hiw much of it is open-source.

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yardratianSoma 3 points 4 days ago

odyssey (keep in mind, no 1-1 alternative for youtube exists, yet)

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takeda 3 points 4 days ago

YouTube is problematic because it isn't really the platform that is valuable, it is the content creators.

A more appropriate alternative to it is GrayJay app, which tries to remove YouTube monopoly by supporting multiple platforms. If enough people would use that, content creators could really migrate from one platform to another.

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Pixel_Jock_17 1 point 3 days ago

This is my dream but content creators want the mist exposure so they go to yt which is understandable. I just wished they also uploaded their stuff to multiple platforms. Though knowing how evil google is they probably have some bs no monetization if not exclusive to their platform policy or some garbage

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cRazi_man 3 points 4 days ago

If longform video is your thing, I would highly suggest Nebula. I've paid £27.30 for a years subscription. Creators say they get paid fairly and can make content without censorship. It has been exactly what I'm into.

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Newhere 1 point 4 days ago

27£??? I went to their site and it's 60€ a year... 27 £ it's like max of 35 euros... I have to use UK as VPN to buy it then.

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Mwa 2 points 3 days ago

I know of: Peertube, Odyseey, Rumble and bitchute.
You can also watch YouTube videos via frontends (Grayjay,Invidious) and archival websites

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blackwall 2 points 4 days ago

Grayjay is a nice front end that doesn’t require sign in.

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Newhere 1 point 3 days ago

Thank you very much.

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orca 6 points 4 days ago

YouTube is the only one left for me as well and I’ve been considering Nebula myself. One thing I do try to avoid though is all of the rage bait stuff. I actively filter it out and focus only on videos that teach me things. So a lot of science, food, carpentry, and other crafty kind of channels and videos. Oh, and a lot of animal ones.

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CorrectAlias 7 points 4 days ago

I love nebula for a lot of the topics you listed, highly recommend it!

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pineapple 2 points 4 days ago

Why would you pay for a YouTube replacement with far less content? Just use an ad-blocker, sponsor blocker or a private frontend. Maybe even torrent-tube if your into that kind of thing.

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daddycool 18 points 4 days ago

The problem is that most people don't care about digital privacy and wouldn't think twice when asked to scan their face to access an app or website.

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bridgeenjoyer 13 points 4 days ago

"They already have all my data anyway"

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zoltanshields 7 points 4 days ago

The same people when I was trying to warn them in like 2012 - "They don't want my data, I'm not that interesting"

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Pixel_Jock_17 2 points 3 days ago

A guy was saying to me how much he likes it. I said they sell your data, track your typing, create a profile and use you to sell you stuff etf.

He says yeah, I love that! It makes my life so much easier and I don't care about being sold stuff I probably want.

Idk what to say to that.

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orca 4 points 4 days ago

It’s true. There’s a whole chunk of mainstream users that won’t think twice about it. I don’t blame them though. Most people aren’t educated on the negatives and our government and tech oligarchs aren’t about to teach them. I work in tech and am terminally online, so I’m acutely aware of this stuff.

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pineapple 2 points 4 days ago

Even people who are don't seam to care. One of my local revolutionary socialist org's still uses WhatsApp for there general communication. I think it takes a special kind of nerdyness and neurodivergence.

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orca 1 point 3 days ago

Ugh the WhatsApp trap. I have friends still on Discord and I have a Matrix server running that I’ve been trying to get them over to.

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aceshigh 4 points 4 days ago

I remember reading about a teen who gave a random website her social security number to get 75% off. She was confused why it was such a big deal. She saved $500!

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JcbAzPx 2 points 4 days ago

Good luck getting the kids off of Roblox. They would literally kill someone for robux.

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SteveTech 44 points 4 days ago

If you absolutely have to scan a face, apparently this works: nofacescan.app

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protogen420 7 points 4 days ago

didnt work for me

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BigBananaDealer 33 points 4 days ago

thank god we can still scan our face for lemmy

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dan1101 13 points 4 days ago

Here I am: :-D

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 3 points 4 days ago

hey it's big dan halfbyte

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UltraGiGaGigantic 5 points 4 days ago

The only pic anyone gets of me is my dick pic.

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BigBananaDealer 7 points 4 days ago

yeah doesnt everybody have to send the mods one every few weeks??

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aceshigh 6 points 4 days ago

That’s how you keep your account still active.

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aceshigh 3 points 4 days ago

Uh. I had a very lovely chat with someone, then I looked at their profile and saw many different angles of their dick. I was hoping to discover new subs and I discovered their dick instead. I’m not checking out your profile.

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tomenzgg 6 points 4 days ago

I was hoping to discover new subs

I mean, all the dick pic.s don't necessarily mean they're a dom.

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aceshigh 2 points 4 days ago

Lmao

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yucandu 30 points 4 days ago

Why did all the American companies suddenly start asking for my ID?

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Steve 41 points 4 days ago

To protect the children

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No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston 15 points 4 days ago

But the president is a pedofile protector, it doesn't make any sense!

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Denfa 17 points 4 days ago

The president protects pedophiles because he is a pedophile himself

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Steve 6 points 4 days ago

Exactly. He doesn't actually care about protecting pedos. He just cares about protecting himself.

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irotsoma 8 points 4 days ago

In case you didn't get it. The "protect the children" comment was likely meant to be facetious. That's the excuse usually used to increase authoritarian surveillance.

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No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston 2 points 4 days ago

Lol yes, just wanted to bring the same energy from that Simpsons lady.

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archy 3 points 4 days ago

To fight terrorists

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Steve 5 points 4 days ago

Yes! To stop the terrorist children!

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AmyAye 10 points 4 days ago

Because we have reached some sort of critical mass of ad blocking and anonymization online, enough that it's starting to hurt the bottom line, so they need a solid way to track people for that shit.

Also, the US is currently being run by a rabid pack of puritan Christo fascists, ie Project 2025. Right now it's "protect the children", but ultimately the idea is to track and sensor and "reeducate" people.

"Oh, you search for 'signs I am gay'? Better report to God Camp."

Don't even think about trying to be anything that does not fit in the box.

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JustEnoughDucks 1 point 4 days ago

They want to be able to link web fingerprints to childre n so they can target and exploit them.

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dusk 1 point 4 days ago

for democracy burgers and missiles

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enbee 27 points 4 days ago

lol one of my gmail accts tried to get me to face scan yesterday. some crazy shit man, email does not need my face.

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bunchberry 23 points 4 days ago

too late i just scanned my whole body into club penguin

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UniversalApproximation 19 points 4 days ago

Meanwhile their CEO loves republicans and supports fascist influencers through money and by meeting up with them for videos.

Fuck Proton.

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Ascend910 8 points 4 days ago

so is menero if anyone is thinking of switching (their host country's equivalent)

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XiJinpingStanAccount 16 points 4 days ago

Sadly if you want to travel these days face scans are unavoidable. I still avoid them for commercial services, but yeah. Fly to europe or any major US city and you are going to be made to submit to a face scan to get through security.

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spizzat2 28 points 4 days ago

The last time I went through TSA (earlier this year), I no longer saw the signs saying you could opt-out, but I was still able to opt out.

The TSA agent got annoyed at me for not leading with that, though. Like... buddy... We exchanged greetings, and then I said no thank you to the face scan. It's not my fault that you jumped the gun. I'm trying to not be rude about another unnecessary invasion of privacy.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 20 points 4 days ago

Some of them they don't even ask anymore. When you enter the US at certain ports of entry now they scan everyone as you walk up and they won't even ask to see your passport because they know who you are and will just wave you through. Because that's not fucking creepy at all.

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bamboo 5 points 4 days ago

I just say "no facial" which usually gets a smirk.

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Dettweiler42 7 points 4 days ago

Yes, but at the very LEAST, it's being done by a government controlled entity that's subject to data security auditing and some sort of regulated process for handling that data.

These social media services are going to hold on to those scans, sell them for advertising data, and store them on dubiously secured servers.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 16 points 4 days ago

Oh for sure I just wouldn't want anyone having my face scan personally. I'd love to have a law passed that designated biometric data as personal property requiring a warrant or explicit consent to collect.

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traxex 6 points 4 days ago

I would posit that the government is even worse for handling this data. See recent FBI hack and not as recent OPM hack.

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yucandu 0 points 4 days ago

For all its problems, a democratically elected government will always be better than some rich guy who wants to rip you off and make as much money as possible.

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mwalimu 2 points 4 days ago

Sadly, that government body pays private companies (palantier, cough cough) on the back end. They combine the data with a gazillion other datasets paid for by taxpayers. Since this is what they call "model training" you can't unring that bell from that point on. Immutable data on an evil corporation's dataset, for as long as data can be stored.

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skarn -10 points 4 days ago

Tell me you're from the US without telling me you're from the US.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 14 points 4 days ago

without telling me you’re from the US.

I... mentioned the US in my comment?

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traxex 9 points 4 days ago

Yeah but do it again this time without telling me first.

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No1 3 points 4 days ago

My school was in lockdown again this week for a possible active shooter.

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skarn 0 points 4 days ago

It's written basically as if the reader is also expected to be American.

Which annoyed me.

But I've had a rough week. Never mind me.

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XiJinpingStanAccount 6 points 4 days ago

Well I can't speak to what its like in places I've never been.

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Vanth 2 points 4 days ago

Are Americans the only non-EU nationals that have to go through EES biometrics when traveling into EU/Schengen zone? I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if many Americans don't know we've been doing this to non-US nationals visiting the US for years via our US-VISIT program.

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skarn 4 points 4 days ago

Americans are the only ones who fly to American cities without getting scanned... Because it's an internal flight.

I don't think there's a corner left in the industrialized world where you can go through passport control at the airport without getting your face scanned. At least as a foreigner.

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tangosox 13 points 4 days ago

I wonder about Google photos...

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skisnow 22 points 4 days ago

I've always obsessively kept my photos off any cloud provider for years only to discover that the entire rest of the family have a treasure trove of fully tagged pictures of me uploaded to every major provider out there. In most cases I think it even ties the tag to my phone/email/birthday entry in their Contacts list.

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martini1992 3 points 4 days ago

Always wondered about this, if they receive a GDPR request from you do they have to delete others tagged pictures of you and your contact details? I mean it is your personal data technically.

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skisnow 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, they do. AIUI there's some nuance about what constitutes "legitimate interest" so it's possible (probable in fact) they might only delete pictures where you're the main subject but not e.g. group photos from events

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vane 13 points 4 days ago

Do You Guys Not Have Phones?

Looks like Diablo guy was a prophet

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ch00f 12 points 4 days ago

I had to scan my face to access the $20k of I-bonds I already had with the Treasury.

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ben 9 points 4 days ago

WTF

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ch00f 3 points 4 days ago path: 0 26252341 26252417 26255150, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
spacegoat 1 point 4 days ago
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nil 8 points 4 days ago

I hate to say this but I am an Instagram user. They asked me to scan my face to "check if I'm a bot", and they banned me even after I scanned my face. And no, I didn't post my dick to a reel. This is bullshit.

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manuallybreathing 8 points 4 days ago

Instagram banned me when i started using a VPN and i never looked back, delete your account

However: none of my friends contact me now that i dont use META

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nil 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it's hard to find a friend irl who happen to use pixelfed instead of Instagram

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raspberriesareyummy 2 points 4 days ago

Why would you be so stupid to scan your face?

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nil 2 points 4 days ago

I am locked out of the interface otherwise. I know it's a stupid thing to use Instagram in the first place

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raspberriesareyummy 3 points 4 days ago

Would you rob a bank too, if they asked you to? Because that's what you'll have done if your biometrical data gets sold into the wrong hands.

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gravitywell 6 points 4 days ago

Don't pay for a VPN using your bank or credit card

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Sam_Bass 6 points 4 days ago

or anything, else for that matter

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Stigger32 4 points 4 days ago

I get all of them except Roblox? Isn’t that a place for kids?

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khanh 7 points 4 days ago

roblox enforces age verification and separates users into age groups. yet, moderation is in shambles (did i mention ai-assisted?) and separating the kids in one bunch and the teenagers in another basically is just a feast for pedos and groomers

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benjirenji 3 points 4 days ago

Putting "DON'T scan your face for X." at the very end would be even stronger.

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answersplease77 3 points 4 days ago

Why? They did not mention the reason. What do these companies do with our face scans?

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Funkt4st1c 15 points 4 days ago

Who cares, they shouldnt have it or need it

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EncryptKeeper 7 points 4 days ago

They leak them to bad actors on the internet

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JcbAzPx 2 points 4 days ago

Sell. They sell them to bad actors on the internet. Shareholders would never let them give it away for free.

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EncryptKeeper 2 points 4 days ago

If only the shareholders had a say in their incompetence lol

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degen 3 points 4 days ago

I would post the super Mario 64 face, but that would be minimizing it

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 4 days ago

Good advice

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BilSabab 2 points 3 days ago

whatever you're thinking - JUST DONT!

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Lucidlethargy 2 points 4 days ago
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pHr34kY 2 points 4 days ago

Don't scan your face for Insta,

The influencers want your polaroid.

Don't scan your face for Twitter,

Elon wants your dogecoin.

Don't scan your face for YouTube,

The vloggers want your shorts.

Don't scan your face for Twitch,

The Slime Ranchers want your plorts.

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DieserTypMatthias 2 points 4 days ago

too late I signed up for Revolut.

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phoenixz 2 points 4 days ago

I had to scan my face a hundred times already for a hundred different places...

Hell, I live in a closed colony and the only way in is with a face scan. My biometric data is surely for sale in a hundred different places by now, so I guess I don't really care anymore

Its not like I have an option if I still want to get home

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myyass 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah same here. I mean you're getting scanned everywhere now, like the grocery store, but I'm not linking my computer to my face. I will say going through the airport in Japan is a breeze compared to the shit show in US airports.

I get off the plane, get in line to check in and get my sticker, set up luggage delivery, and walk out.

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ech 2 points 4 days ago

DON'T support fascist politicians if you actually value the privacy of yourself and others.

Oh wait, that was them.

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Nyadia 9 points 4 days ago
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bedwyr 4 points 4 days ago

Are you implying the democratic party is left? It's not.

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degen 1 point 4 days ago

Leftest but not leftist.

Ok, ok leftest that can get elected.

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Telodzrum 3 points 4 days ago

They didn’t though . . .

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anarchy79 1 point 4 days ago

NOT THE FACE!

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latetolemmy 1 point 4 days ago

I will scan my face and rub it all over the internet

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bedwyr 0 points 4 days ago

Proton is garbage that accepts blacklists at face value, despite Israel.

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gallineja 12 points 4 days ago

Im lost here, what happened?

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IEatDaFeesh 6 points 4 days ago

Some people on Lemmy are retarded. They think saying things without justifying it means that people should care.

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EncryptKeeper 3 points 4 days ago

Nothing. There is a large contingent of anti Proton misinformation bots and uninformed laymen on Lemmy.

If you dig too much into it, it invariably ends up with a bunch of hearsay, very little to no evidence, and misunderstanding of rudimentary functions of the internet and international law.

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dusk -2 points 4 days ago

TL;DR responder is a proton brand fan

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EncryptKeeper 5 points 4 days ago

Three comments by this account total and they’re all on this post.

As if there were any doubt

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bedwyr -5 points 4 days ago

First off, proton accepts blacklists as doctrine, even though israel is in it.

Second, they removed a bunch of accounts the US demanded they remove, without cause. Proton is GARBAGE! They are the enemy.

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answersplease77 7 points 4 days ago

Does Proton give its users data and internet history to Israel? GhostVPN for example was founded by Mossad Unit 8200, even caught luring and offering ludicrous sponsorship deals to all anti-zionism youtube channels, to spy and report all its users database to israel. Is Proton the same?!

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bedwyr -4 points 4 days ago

What I can tell you is that there are several dozen blacklists, and proton takes them at face value, with no appeal option, even though Israel puts their critics on there.

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floquant 7 points 4 days ago

Lots of telling, not a lot of showing sources

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bedwyr -6 points 4 days ago

You can go fuck yourself with israel, have fun with that. They aren't giving lovers much I hear tell. Good luck!

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skippy 6 points 4 days ago

Citation needed

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nednobbins 4 points 4 days ago

Can you post the evidence against Proton?

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bedwyr -4 points 4 days ago

Ha ha ha, yeah, like I have the ability to fight back from the devil.

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floquant 3 points 4 days ago

Blacklists of what?

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phoenixz -5 points 4 days ago

So what you're saying is that literally every provider is garbage.

If proton can't make the cut, nobody can

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UniversalApproximation 3 points 4 days ago

Check out NymVPN. Far superior.

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bedwyr -1 points 4 days ago

Proton is not the only game in town. Proton is ziocuck garbage. There are others.

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manuallybreathing -2 points 4 days ago

My face gets scanned by city run cameras everytime i go to the super market, and then the supermarket scans my face as well, not to mention smart passports with face scanning or whatever were introduced pre 2010. It's too late

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DairyKing 20 points 4 days ago

This is a sunk cost fallacy, it’s not too late

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bridgeenjoyer -1 points 4 days ago

I mean...they already have thousands of images and video on us. Not saying we should give it to them willingly but yeah we have already been cooked. If they wanted to generate a video of you doing illegal things they could and youd be jailed in an instant.

Thats why on the surface its good to pretend to support the maga regime so youre not on their radar. Then dismantle it from underneath. Thats how I look at it.

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dusk -6 points 4 days ago

Don't use an ai company and expect privacy

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sompreno 3 points 4 days ago

Hard to call it an ai company when it doesn't make ai models, proton is no more an ai company then the many companies adding ai to their website as an assistant

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dusk -3 points 4 days ago

Proton are an ai company because they have their own ai, they also have the most ridiculous brand fans.

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sompreno 2 points 4 days ago

They don't have their own ai, they have an ai frontend which runs preexisting open weight ai models.

Proton does have a lot of fans probably because they are the most well known 'privacy' company and a lot of people set and forget without reading into them.

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brucethemoose 2 points 4 days ago

they have their own ai

They don't make it:

https://proton.me/blog/lumo-ai

Lumo is based upon open-source language models and operates from Proton’s European datacenters. This gives you much greater transparency into the way Lumo works than any other major AI assistant. Unlike Apple Intelligence and others, Lumo is not a partnership with OpenAI or other American or Chinese AI companies, and your queries are never sent to any third parties. Our research and development will remain focused on open models, which we will continuously improve and augment.

Per discussions online, it seems to be a mix of small Mistral and Olmo models, and GLM for the max tier.

This'd be like arguing a company hosting database software to serve a product is a "database software company." They are a hosting some tool made by someone else, with a sticker.

they also have the most ridiculous brand fans.

Perhaps. I'm a bit scared of how much critical mass they have, TBH. But this does not make them an AI company.

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dusk 0 points 4 days ago

https://lumo.proton.me/

"Meet Lumo, the zero-access encrypted AI assistant by Proton"

I had a 2 year subscription with proton, I walked away from it with more than a year remaining. The ai and the right wing thing is just the tip of the iceberg, but I don't live to supply links and proof to proton fanboys (which is how this always goes), so all I suggest is that people pay attention to protons social media (reddit in particular) for a while before giving them your money and trusting them with your details, emails etc. If people cannot be bothered putting some effort into their choices, so be it, not my problem.

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