It's the US, how does someone who is brain dead still have their job on the senate?

were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?

I'd imagine so, yes. Clean up the loose ends as it were. Trying, twice, to kill someone and having them still walking around is rather embarassing after all.

Probably the same docs who botched her execution declared her brain dead

were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?

That's what I was thinking as well. You don't just miraculously wake up within a day from no brain activity measured. Someone intentionally manipulated a measurement or just skipped it.

MAHA.

The US justice system is making me feel bad for a murderer. I'm not sure it's what they're trying to achieve, but it's certainly an achievement.

They'll probably live stream it too

Can't be barbarians about, now can we?

third times a charm.

Normal doesn't mean right, it just means the same as usual, and they didn't even hit that.

Thank you.

Do the witnesses spend a lot of their free time watching people get executed enough to have a frame of reference?

Much of what I've read about the American prison system would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment. The same applies to the Canadian system more than I'd like to admit.

I was thinking how weird it must have been to receive a lethal injection, black out, and then wake up somewhere. That must have been real mind-blowing for a moment.

I don't know how casual it was

I've heard this is why death sentences state "hanged by the neck until dead." Someone survived a hanging at one point and successfully argued that their sentence had been carried out, so they could not be hanged again. I read about it years ago, I don't remember details. All this is to say she might not be able to make that point. Either way, you're right. It's gonna be interesting.

Not really. Despite the tails you hear about people saying they were dead and came back after seeing heaven, and saying stuff like they had a heart attack and died three times on the way to the hospital, those aren’t dead. Do you think any of those cases would be willing to send all their stuff off to whoever is inheriting it? The laws know this and the sentence is not going away on a gotcha. Otherwise people with life sentences or on death row would be trying to give themselves survivable heart attacks all the time. Not a fan of the justice system or the death penalty in general, but this lady is there for a good reason. It may functionally turn into a life sentence but they sure aren’t letting her go free.

The intent of the death penalty is clear. I don't think we're gonna see any of this tv show type court stuff.

Judges usually don't like tricks like trying to argue a definition of death in which the person is alive afterward. It wouldn't be accepted in the other direction either; an assailant whose victim is alive is not guilty of murder.

There are certainly legal arguments against trying to execute her again, but if one succeeds, the outcome will be life in prison, not release.

I read that at some point in hospital she was declared brain dead, which surprised me, because normally that's not a temporary condition, but in the BBC article they just say "Her legal team believed for days that she was brain dead and expected her to be taken off life support at any moment.", which is not the same thing.

So, if a murderer survives we just let them go? That's fucking stupid

Frank Morris, and John and Clarence Anglin would disagree. It's so rare though, that your point stands.

Because the chemical execution method isn't to ensure the swift, painless death of the accused, it's to soothe the psyche of the executioner

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There's exactly 0 reasons not to use nitrogen for death penalty. Guaranteed death every time.

Of all the proven ways to end a life quickly and (for all we know) relatively painless that is what you came up with? 😅

Or monoxide, what happened to carbon monoxide?

No she's a deity.

You shouldn't have death row at all. There has been and will be even more innocent people getting wrongly executed. You cannot guarantee that every single person getting executed is guilty.

Life in prison is cheaper then the death penalty by a wide margin owing to the numerous safeguards in place (e.g. mandatory appeals.) to ensure we murder folks who deserve it.

Beyond that, the death penalty doesn't work as a crime deterrant, murder rates in death penalty states track higher then abolitionist ones.

Lastly, someone getting put to death gains minor celebrity during it, offering a perverse incentive to the especially vile, while life in jail is just quiet fading to nothing over time and maybe a paragraph after they die saying they're dead. Certainly not the news cycle Pike has gotten.

I could see the death penalty in limited circumstances like the Nuremberg trials, but for someone like Pike, Charles Manson, or whoever? Let 'em rot.

I am pro death penalty. There are truly serious, vile, and wicked evil people in this world.

And without realising it, you have exposed yourself as one of these people.

However, like them, you are not "vile and wicked evil", you are broken. Some people are broken like that by biological defects, some by trauma, and some by slow development into a psychopath. Society needs to be protected from some of them, but we have no right to kill, because that would put us on the same level as you or the other psychopaths.