Well what if I ***French*** kissed you right here and now?

4 days ago by TotallynotJessica to c/onehundredninetysix

Also, fuck France; not for being cowardly or anything else the British roast them for, but for being ruthless imperialists

squirrel 62 points 4 days ago

You know... The French Revolution of 1789 (!) decriminalized homosexuality in all of its terrorities, including its colonies. While the UK kept forcing its homophobic laws on its colonies and did not decriminalized homosexuality until 1992/1994. Meanwhile many states of the US still have sodomy laws on its books. Mock the French, but maybe not for that one.

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Jankatarch 11 points 4 days ago

Tho French did go around randomly adding "it's illegal to be gay now" on other countries' constitutions by late 1800s.

In the first draft of Tunisia's 1913 Penal Code-drafted and completed in 1911-no references are made to homosexuality in any of the printed articles. However, a handwritten note labelled as Article 274 that criminalized sodomy appears in the margins of the "Offenses against Decency" section (scan). By the time the Penal Code was published in 1913, this handwritten note had become law as Article 230.
Article 230, criminalizing homosexuality, first appeared in the Penal Code of 1913, which was inspired by the French Penal Code of 1810 in terms of both "structure" and "values"; despite this, the French Penal Code did not criminalize sodomy. This Article, among others, was the work of a commission created for the codification of Tunisian laws, by the Resident-General René Millet, in September 1896.This commission was made up of eight members, which by 1912 consisted of six Frenchmen and two Tunisians; Hanafi judge Mahmoud Ben Mahmoud, and Maliki judge Mohamed Kassar. https://en.wikipedia.org/...

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Jayjader 3 points 2 days ago

the French Penal Code of 1810

fucking napoleon strikes again

I swear, the hard-on this country still has for him is holding us back

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drcobaltjedi 8 points 4 days ago

I mean being better than the states is not a high bar. I say this as an american.

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joyjoy 3 points 4 days ago

So you're saying France is its own pride flag.

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Chais 5 points 4 days ago

Isn't every national flag a pride flag of you're nationalist enough?

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sukhmel 4 points 4 days ago

And also hate flag depending on the country if you're nationalist enough

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TotallynotJessica -3 points 4 days ago

Them being less depraved than the US and UK does not make them good.

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TeaWithDani 10 points 4 days ago

French highschoolers are currently rioting over a shit school system. The French are hella based.

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vzqq 24 points 4 days ago

On the one hand, ruthless imperialism. On the other hand, beheading aristocrats.

Allons enfants….

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taiyang 5 points 4 days ago

Per usual, fuck the nation, not it's people.

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wieson 4 points 4 days ago

... de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivé!

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Valmond 2 points 4 days ago

And the best food, hmm

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vzqq 9 points 4 days ago

Not willing to go quite that far, but one thing I’ll gladly concede is that they are willing to put in the work.

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Valmond 4 points 4 days ago

Couldn't find the french coffee one so here's another for the enjoyment of all (better than nothing, or so I hope):

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SailorMoss 1 point 4 days ago
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Cellery 20 points 4 days ago

Name a country that hasn’t been ruthless and selfish. Please don’t say China, it’s too early in the morning for propaganda.

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infinitesunrise 15 points 4 days ago

Fuck all nation states, including France.

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Cellery 8 points 4 days ago

I agree. Including China?

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TotallynotJessica 11 points 4 days ago

Last I checked, China is a in fact a nation state (and one that has historically thrown its weight around at that)

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Cellery 1 point 4 days ago

It’s important to ask.

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infinitesunrise 5 points 4 days ago

Did I stutter?

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Madagaskar_sky 2 points 4 days ago

I'm confused. Why not say China? Are they not ruthless and selfish?

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razen 2 points 4 days ago

Bots Propaganda

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Madagaskar_sky 2 points 4 days ago

Ah, got it. Ducking bots.

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ItzzMe 14 points 4 days ago

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cadmiumsandbox 10 points 4 days ago

i respect the lgbtq+ but if they are allowing fr*nch i need to reconsider /j

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Mouselemming 9 points 4 days ago

If you leave a French flag out to get bleached by the sun and the rain long enough, does it turn into a Trans flag? Or are we going to be picky about its orientation?

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Wirlocke 7 points 4 days ago

If you leave out for even longer it turns back into a French flag! 🏳️

(I couldn't resist when the joke was set up so perfectly)

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NigelFrobisher 8 points 4 days ago

It’s the yanks who called the French cowardly for refusing to get into their Iraq war scam. We call them frog eaters and hope to continue to fight them for many centuries to come.

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Godric 7 points 4 days ago

Impressive and a bit spooky how France absolutely destroys queers by having the gayest flag of all

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riwo 5 points 4 days ago

damn wish i were queer (pretty) like that🥺

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samus12345 5 points 4 days ago

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Rumo161 4 points 4 days ago

Well, and for beging French of course.

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DonkeyStar 3 points 4 days ago

You misspelled Phroinxe.

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alapakala 3 points 4 days ago

All I read is she wants an omlet

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psycholocomotor_no2 3 points 4 days ago

No kisses for fr*nch "people."

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Gladaed 1 point 4 days ago

Why do you feel like they are ruthless imperialists?

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NOT_RICK 11 points 4 days ago

Vietnam and Saharan Africa would like a word

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Gladaed 0 points 4 days ago

As far as I know french troops aren't active there at the time. At least not in an unwelcome fashion.

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NOT_RICK 10 points 4 days ago

French troops were just recently thrown out of a lot of Saharan Africa, I’d say within the past 5 years. That has left a power vacuum filled by a mix of Islamic terrorism and Wagner mercenaries from Russia. In my opinion, the French were thrown out at least in part due to their refusal to come to full terms with their colonial past.

That said, I live in a glass house. I live in the US, the epicenter of attempting to ignore your colonial past. Shit, it’s more like a colonial present.

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Gladaed 6 points 4 days ago

Yes, for they were asked to buy the Russian backed governments who got to power by coups.

Not particularly imperialist to just get up and leave.

Fighting against extreme Dschihadist forces could also be considered good/fine.

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panda_abyss 7 points 4 days ago

They probably have a few Ruth’s.

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Gladaed 2 points 4 days ago

Then they wouldn't be ruthless. Also I consider this a somewhat serious accusation. I only recall them being called that over the Mali/Sahel situation which is... Well the africa Corps calling them a neocolonialist bunch while extracting the wealth of Mali and committing enough massacres that al quaeda is hailed as their savors and are notable for upholding the rule of law better does not bode well. But that's probably not the situation Jessica is thinking about and you cannot start with that accusatory tone. Also the context was lost upon me as well when I first heard about that, so it would be a fair assumption, too.

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rockSlayer 7 points 4 days ago

The whole "Scramble for Africa" bit

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Gladaed 2 points 4 days ago

Not particularly current. Or do you mean the current scramble for Africa?

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rockSlayer 8 points 4 days ago

something that ended in the 70s is pretty current imo

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infinitesunrise 5 points 4 days ago

And why are we even consenting to this user inserting an arbitrary recency rule? The nation states of today stand atop the atrocities of their past. I don't give my country a pass on indigenous genocide or chattel slavery just because they happened before I was born. Quite the opposite, they're fundamental to the nation state that encloses me today. Nationalism is fucking gross, individuals are distinct from the states that lay claim to them and shouldn't be confusing their own honor for that of the state, a trap I feel this user has fallen into.

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Gladaed 1 point 4 days ago

That's halve a century ago. No person in any role back then still exists in a similar role. They are retirees at best.

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Madagaskar_sky 2 points 4 days ago

When they wanted Algeria to be part of France mainland and wouldn't take no for an answer. Their involvement in the Rawanda genocide. Their schenanigance in western Africa. Etc.

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Gladaed -2 points 4 days ago

Are they still doing that or is that a nation that has died and is succeeded by macron's french of today?

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Gladaed 1 point 4 days ago

They look at historical data. The terminal downfall of francafrique is about where they stopped. I haven't read it yet though and cannot right now. Sure looks interesting.

Edits:They sure do look reputable, but then stop ten years in the past when major political changes took place and making statements about the presence is weird.

They also seem to not have been published in a journal which does make me Leary

Looking at the author's Wikipedia section (hickel) raises further doubt in the rigor of the study. It seemingly not addressing the disconnect in data and not being published does lead me to conclude that this is a bogus paper, though it is executed nicely and seems to make an effort it does over interpret data. The publishing company does not seem to make enough of an effort to disclose whom they are publishing.

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Madagaskar_sky 1 point 4 days ago

I don't think the sixth French republic has arrived as of yet.

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Gladaed 1 point 4 days ago

The things you are listing are things of the past and french interests and ambitions have shifted a lot in the last twenty years. Change is coming constantly and we must look forward and judge them based on who they are today, what evils they are committing today, whom they leave unpunished and what are they reasonably doing to right the wrongs of the past.

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