I used to make animations for YouTube, which weren't monetized because I hate ads, and one day they copyright struck me for some very provably public domain music, but the way they did it was to insert ads into my video without my consent so they could monetize them to send the money to the scammer who flagged me. So I just deleted my entire account, fuck them.

if they're anything like cable ads, they actually make the ads louder than the regular programming on purpose to try to make sure you hear it if you tune out or just walk away. no relaxed, unfocused watching for you!

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Lmao "you purposely made your stuff shit. Now, if you offered a basic service without all the shit, I might pay for that."

Bruh, you don't pay for something because it's not shit, you pay for something because it's good. By paying for a basic service simply because it's not shit, you are incentivising them to enshittify their service and offer a premium "not shit" version, instead of actually improving their service.

It's just like the people who buy the new iPhone because it actually has a headphone jack this time.

They get away with this because people don’t use the alternatives. Odysee and Rumble are actually good alternatives. No, they’re not as good as YouTube, but they’re good enough. We just need creators to also upload to those platforms. Since YouTube keeps banning and demobilising them, this problem might solve itself.

NewPipr

I imagine they'll eventually find a way to prevent us from blocking ads. Twitch TV for example has found some ways to make adblock useless.

It's a shame, and it's really just a side effect of google racing to the bottom of the adspace game. If ads weren't as cheap as they are today, they wouldn't be trying to maximize the amount of users who are forced to see advertisements.

I just did the zap element thing on that warning. So far so good, except you can't scroll down.

Can we pin this?

I occasionally see ads on Youtube. I'm not sure if this is related.

...temporarily it might help

You could subscribe

Why wouldn't they block Piped?

Bruh, your not gonna believe this, but the ducks at the park are free. if you use one of these, you can download all the ducks you want. I downloaded 9000 ducks so far.

Google more than just kind of sucks. Like you said they haven’t done shit in a long time outside of making the internet more hostile with shit like this and their planned chrome-based anti adblock (a LOT of browsers run on chromium which would bring the same shit, Mozilla4lyfe)

Also, the google graveyard is just pathetic at this point. They truly can’t do shit outside of anti-user bullshit

Android? Google Photo? Google Pixel? Google Pay? Google Apps? Chrome? Chromebook? Google Drive? Chromecast? Android Auto?

They launched a ton of successful stuff since Maps came out in 2005

Most of their innovation has been for developers it seems.

Edit for clarification: since Google maps

Ignoring everything after Google maps is ignorant as hell. I mean Google Photos is literally used by a massive percentage of iPhone users as well, because it's so good.

Getting so many NSFW dating/straight up p##n ads. I shit you not they have even had CP ads I have seen. Disgusting and completely illegal.

Usually most of my YouTube ads are for bullshit training programs (and I do mean bullshit, like pseudosciencey shit) or gambling.

Both are just at the edge of legality (I am pretty sure some cross it).

Except since last month, because now almost all are for that Scorsese movie. I mean, I don't mind being advertised that, but I've seen these ads so much that all they managed to do is make me hate it despite barely knowing anything about it.

Also, unskippable ads keep being longer. Now it's reached two 20-second ads interrupting even short-ish videos every 5 minutes or so.

So yeah, people, that's what YouTube looks like without an ad blocker now. Gee, I wonder why so many block them.

The temu and tiktok ads that seem to be intentionally engineered to provoke extreme negative emotions such as discomfort and irritation, that force your attention on the screen by overloading your ears with so much noise that you feel compelled to take in some amount of visual information to ease the shock, and then tacking on hashtag slogans at the end; like "oddly satisfying" after a video of a fucking butcher knife cutting through colorful play sand or "shop like a billionaire" after yelling at me about cheap Chinese goods, both of which only serving as reminders of the current state of society at large and pushing me ever so closer to a state of blind rage; are what finally pushed me to install vanced on my android.

It's psychological torture and it should be against international human rights law.

Not exactly what you have described but better https://addons.mozilla.org/...

Stop using YouTube, go for new pipe/piped/invidious instead. Same content without the fucking bullshit.

Example: http://yt.whateveritworks.org

In recent years there's been a shift from "white/black list" to "allow/block list" in an effort to avoid the stereotypes associated with those terms. I wouldn't say it's the new norm yet, but it's slowly becoming more popular.

I love how a massive Internet company is trying to act like their service isnt on the internet and like they don't know what that means

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Currently downloading all of my favorite YouTubers content ad free 🖕

Google has billions. YouTube pirates (can we call ourselves that yet?) are not going to bankrupt Google. In fact, Alphabet is spending more on their crackdown for sake of principle.

But Google is beholden to its shareholders, whose interests are diametrically opposed to that of the general public, so any gain by Google is a loss to the rest of us.

So any profit we can deny the Google machine remains instead in the economy, rather than vaulted in offshore accounts or used to further lock down the empires of the shareholders.

The day I can't watch YouTube sans commercials is the day I quit watching YouTube. And then it will get absolute-zero engagement from me.

So bring it. I do not need YouTube, and it needs viewers like me.

Good luck trying to talk about this with any amount of reason.

I'm a pirate, I understand what I'm doing is defrauding the tos of a mega corporation. I UNDERSTAND that and IM DOING IT ON PURPOSE.

But it seems like most of the people here are just going to hurl insults at you and call you a shill because you laid it out as "this cost money and the business needs money to even do it". This is how "free" services have always worked. They aren't a fucking charity.

I don't like ads so I do everything in my power to not see ads. Once they kill ReVanced and they start banned Google accounts, I'll just stop using YouTube unless I have a specific tutorial need.

Corpo shill alert

YouTube doesn’t need to get paid (by the users watching their ads) they get paid through you, the actual product. What you watch what you click on what you search for, these are ALL monitizable. You think Google is protecting your data instead of selling it lmao

Furthermore how much is enough? They gonna keep adding more and more unskipable ads more pre/mid/post rolls, b-b-but the multi fucking billion dollar corpo needs to get pAiD!!!!

Grow up

Does that boot taste good or something?

Everything has to be free; I won't pay a dime. If anyone tries to make money (aka any business), they are evil.

• Lemmy

Google would never give up on a project!

This is the worst possible take I've heard this week, probably this year.

You would fuck over thousands of people, in addition to creating a bar of entry for anyone wanting to post a video or start a channel. Like I genuinely don't even know where to begin explaining how bad this take is.

They already are, by monetizing the content they didn’t create, and paying creators just a fraction of the revenue generated.

Imagine if a (physical paper) newspaper could block you from reading an article because you didn't spend enough time looking at the ads.

After the content gets delivered to my browser, it's up to me how I want to consume that content. Anything that happens beyond that point is client-side. If I choose to pay attention to ads on purpose, that's my choice. If I accept the webserver's response and choose to view only parts of what I got, then that's my choice, too.

Its free because they sell user data, I'm not gonna have them sell my data and pay them for doing that.

All these platforms like youtube, facebook, twitter don't make any sense from a financial standpoint. Their model was fucked from the start and only now are we seeing the consequences.

I am winning to pay for content I like. But using their propietary app? No thanks.

Hello, you must be new here. We don't like to be held accountable for anything and simply vocalize all our problems in an echo chamber where we collectively agree that other people should be held accountable instead. I hope this offers some context for the downvotes.

It’s google. They’re paying their bills just fine

Awww, poor little YouTube/Google/Alphabet, helpless and basically living on the streets, barely able to make ends meet.

literally laughs my fucking ass off

If it is so dire for the poor conglomerate, it could shutdown YouTube to cut costs.

crickets

That's what I thought.

Corporate apologia 🙄

I have YouTube Premium because I also use YouTube Music, so the subscription fee is worth it for me.

But if you don't use YouTube Music, it's far too expensive and tough to justify the cost for YouTube alone.

I am so tired of seeing this argument. I do not care about ads. That is not the problem. The problem is that YouTube thinks it is entitled to suck up every little bit of information about me and everyone within speaking distance of me just because I use their service. Do you want to run ads? Go for it. Do you want to get a little bit of basic information about your audience? Such as State or city? Honestly, that is fine. We need to establish a line, but I am not wholesale against any sort of information coming in. But that is not what they are doing. They give us these opaque TOS’s that allow them to take so much information and even sell it to third parties. It is out of control and we have no sense of what our data is worth or who is getting it. That is not OK.

If you want to do an on air read, I’m not going to skip it. If YouTube to run the occasional ad, I’ll watch it. But I will never, ever take down my VPN and ublock origin. I will never apologize for obfuscating my data a little bit. That is my right, and I will exercise it every time.

There is also one other very simple problem with this argument: you don’t have to run ads and steal all my data in order to make money. There are tons of other revenue models out there.

The ads are just out of control. Back when it was one, maybe two, ads that were 10-20s long combined, I was willing to sit through it. Now there are almost always multiple ads concurrent, ads in the middle of the video, ads at the end of the video if it plays all thr way through, then ads again before the next video plays.

Bring it back to a single ad at the beginning of the video and give me a variety of ads so it isn't the same 3 over and over, and I'll sit and watch it.

they get all content for free though, unlike netflix etc.

I wouldn't object to paying if:

1. Their pricing was more reasonable
2. A fairer cut went to content creators
3. They had something that actually qualified as a search function on their site
4. They weren't trying to bully everyone into paying

Cry us a river. I will find ways to block ads and tell people how to do it

Difference is those other networks actually make content thats arguably seen as worth paying for. YouTube recycles user content and barely pays those users for it. Yes you can say that they deserve your money for servers and whatnot, but you can’t compare YouTube with those other services you mentioned and expect people to cry big crocodile tears…

I dont use those particular other services to be fair. I do admittedly pay for Nebula, but to my understanding that is supposed to be more creator driven and is quite cheap anyway.

The thing about YouTube adblocking, at least for me, is that I dont think they owe me free and ad free content, or that they should be obligated to offer that for some reason. I fully understand that delivering video the way they do costs some amount of money even if not very much for an individual user, so blocking their monetization scheme means that using their website costs them money. However, I do not like or respect that company, I feel that their engagement algorithms have proven generally harmful to society as a whole by pushing people to more extreme content to improve retention, and I feel that their position as the primary place anyone thinks of to upload or view video not created by large scale studios is non-ideal. As such, when I do end up watching something there (content which, I might add, isnt even something that they create, just stuff independent creators are pretty much forced to upload there to be relevant as they are by far the largest game in town for their niche), I'm not bothered by blocking their ads, because I dont really care about Youtube's profit margin. If anything, if doing so actually harms them, in some tiny way, that is a bonus in my book.

They’re one of the largest companies in world: they are the bills

People out here are really dick riding YouTube lmao.

Poor Google. Such a small company struggling to get by.

Meh if YouTube died tomorrow there would be a competitor the next day. Google bought YouTube back in the day and there are already like platforms.

YouTube is highly profitable already.

If Google wasn’t so blatantly malicious in their advertising practices then I would gladly pay for YouTube premium. However, their current business model of “take any and every bit of data on them to sell more product” is morally repugnant. Subsequently, I feel no shame in blocking ads and using invidious to avoid giving them even a cent of revenue.

How much of their revenue is spent toward content generation?

I know but ... YouTube belongs to YouTube, and I'm sure google is already making tons of money selling/using the data of all their users so... I would not have a problem with one or two ads, but they often put three or more annoying ads per video.

Yes

😂 reading the replies to your comment is the fun part. Watching people lose their minds over a comment.

Yeah, you can tell by the replies how much this forum is filled with entitled children and hipster anarchists.

That and by how anytime Google is mentioned here in literally any context, the top comments are all about how much people hate Google. Could be an article about Google rescuing lost kittens, and people here will make up stories about how Google is doing it for some evil reason and it's a threat to the internet as we know it.

Anyone who tries to argue with me will be summarily blocked because I don't have the patience today. Thanks in advance for helping me populate my block list.