3 days until reddit's 3rd party app shutdown, Lemmy users drive 985% surge with total 5.7 million comments this month

From 528k comments on June 1, 2023 to 5.7 million comments on June 27, 2023.

Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=30

Speaking of 3rd party apps, here's a list of all lemmy apps currently in development: https://lemmy.world/post/465785

For iOS, I'm testing Liftoff, Memmy, and Thunder. For Android, I'm testing Jerboa. What's everyone's favorite app so far?> The top two instances, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml have a total number of comments of 156331 and 188364.

EDIT: @Elcapitan786@lemmy.world has pointed out that this stat is for total comments by day, not per day. Thanks for the correction.

MicroWave 64 points 3 years ago

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Hank 18 points 3 years ago

This

edit: do we really have to copy the '/s' for sarcasm?

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ThrowawayPermanente 5 points 3 years ago

No, no we do not.

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Hank 3 points 3 years ago

I hope so but it seems the irony of my comment was lost to most readers until my edit.

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ThrowawayPermanente 2 points 3 years ago

Wear your downvotes like medals, you earn them both the same way.

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setsneedtofeed 5 points 3 years ago

The /s should remain a thing of the past. It’s embarrassing.

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Merulox 3 points 3 years ago

I don't like tone indicators, but they're meant to help, among others, autistic people who have a hard time understanding tones

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samus12345 3 points 3 years ago

Came here to say this.

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JackGreenEarth 2 points 3 years ago

@Hank It's just a nice thing in text based communication in general, as there are no tone or body cues to indicate sarcasm.

@MicroWave

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Hank 2 points 3 years ago

I know but it so oftens ruins a joke if you are so focused on eliminating any ambiguity that the original purpose of your statement is lost.

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thedarkfly 1 point 3 years ago

Honestly I like the /s but it tends to become formulaic/abused and loses its function

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Larsjr 1 point 3 years ago

I doubt that this place stays that way lol

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ClassyHatter 61 points 3 years ago

Dawn of The First Day
-72 Hours Remains-

EDIT: Didn’t expect this comment to get this many upvotes. Here’s a song for all you Majora’s Mask fans to enjoy at Time’s End, by the magnificently talented Theophany.

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danhasnolife 22 points 3 years ago

It's just sad. Like when you separate out the vitriol for spez, the whole situation just sucks. Reddit was my site for over a decade, and I know there are tens of thousands in the same situation as me. I thought I was insulated from this bullshit within Reddit, but clearly I was naive.

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sota2077 11 points 3 years ago

No one is really insulated. The way I explained it to someone is Reddit was like a girlfriend you dated for 10 years. It was great and it was mostly on autopilot. You both enjoyed each others company. Every so often you would get in a fight but it was never anything too extreme. The API change was like a massive blow up where you two finally say things that cannot be taken back. Afterwards your relationship isn't really the same. It is not necessarily damaged beyond repair, but one of the two in the relationship is just sorta sitting there thinking "This aint worth it anymore" so they go on a break to take some time. Many people will go back. Many will call it quits. Some will go between Lemmy and Reddit. But things are just not going to be the same moving forward.

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awderon 8 points 3 years ago

I was also on reddit for more than 10 years, but in that time I have posted less there, than in a few days here.

Change keeps your brain young

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SSX 7 points 3 years ago

I ultimately still need to use reddit for a few things, mainly a modding group from Skyrim I'm a part of and we use reddit as a sort of hub for our work, so I'm kind of stuck there until the heat death of either reddit or the project.

I do have hope for Lemmy though, but as of July 1st, reddit will lose me as part of their mobile ecosystem because I refuse to utilize that shit app of theirs.

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marcos 4 points 3 years ago

Life is change. It's always good to be reminded of that by the relatively non-important things.

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friedtofu 6 points 3 years ago

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delcake 2 points 3 years ago

Theophany's work is incredible. Good shout

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DocWurzel 50 points 3 years ago

I'm done with Reddit. I can't support their behaviour so I'm moving on. I'm currently using Jerboa, and testing Liftoff and Thunder. All three are good, but Liftoff is my preference so far, just waiting for a few issues to be sorted which is happening over time. I'm interested to see what Sync does for Lemmy, as that was my go to Reddit app.

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rishabh 4 points 3 years ago

Yes!! I also like liftoff the best for now :)

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odunke01 2 points 3 years ago

Im waiting for SyncforLemmy. Using the website until it's launched

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cazyius 49 points 3 years ago

I’ve chosen to go 100% cut off from Reddit but was a daily Apollo user. I averaged around a couple of hours of use each day with Apollo. Since I left Reddit a couple of weeks ago I tried only using the browser version which has been pretty hard. But now that I found Memmy I’m super happy. A lot of the interactions are similar to Apollo and I feel I can interact a lot better with the fediverse using the app.

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paddirn 15 points 3 years ago

Narwhal user and I cut the cord on the day the protests started. I just wanted to pull the band-aid off and move on. I was holding out hope that Reddit would reverse course, but it was pretty clear from their actions since then that that’s not happening. 6/30 was the original date I gave myself to delete posts/comments/accounts, so I’m scorched earth this Friday.

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setsneedtofeed 6 points 3 years ago

I also originally thought I’d stick things out on Apollo until the 30th, and get last use out of the app, but after the admin interaction with iamthatis where they told him his app was inefficient but also refused to explain how (real “it’s not my job to educate you” hours) and then the spez AMA, I dipped. Edited and deleted my history. Account still exists because it’s a point of contact for some people doing website things, but that will go away once I get those people messaging my email.

I can’t go back to browsing Reddit after seeing how terribly they interacted with iamthatis, and with the community.

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MicroWave 5 points 3 years ago

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rtxn 20 points 3 years ago

Not commenter, but I'm going to barge in - I literally went and touched grass. A week away from social media and reduced computer time. By the time I returned, the Lemmyverse was popping off.

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MicroWave 8 points 3 years ago

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jadedctrl 7 points 3 years ago

When you’re AFK, the fediverse grows exponentially! Please touch more grass, for all our sake. 🥺

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cazyius 1 point 3 years ago

But you never mentioned which app is your favorite?

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paddirn 1 point 3 years ago

Narwhal has been my go-to Reddit app. I had downloaded every single Reddit app available at one point and that one just seemed to check all the boxes for me, with the "official" app being one of the first ones that I got rid of bc of how bad it was in comparison.

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NothingSpecial 12 points 3 years ago

Try wefwef.app

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rDrDr 4 points 3 years ago

Good rec, thanks. This might be the best webapp ive ever used, technically speaking.

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KuroJ 3 points 3 years ago

Wow I’ve been using Memmy, which has been great, but I’m impressed with wefwef so far!

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cazyius 3 points 3 years ago

Wow, nice first impression! Are you the developer?

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NothingSpecial 2 points 3 years ago

Nope, I wish I was.

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mattclassic 1 point 3 years ago

I am in the exact same boat

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ulu_mulu 19 points 3 years ago

Wow that's crazy! Curious to see what will happen on the 30th.

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MicroWave 22 points 3 years ago

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Voyajer 5 points 3 years ago

Hopefully they push a popup on the app itself to help with onboarding.

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MegaUltraChicken 2 points 3 years ago

I believe the dev said yesterday that was the case.

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carl_dungeon 19 points 3 years ago

I’m using Mlem on iOS right now, seems pretty solid for the most part. I haven’t tried others yet, but now I will! Thanks!

Edit: follow up- wefwef feels super slick, very Apollo like, has local docker hosting option!

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Steveanonymous 16 points 3 years ago

Memmy crew rise up!!

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cod 1 point 3 years ago

+1 from me! Gk, Teflo, and Sean deserve more recognition!

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StarManta 15 points 3 years ago

I’m tag-teaming Mlem and Memmy right now. Mlem is buggier and a little less feature-complete, but it feels nicer to use.

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michaelsoft_binbows 11 points 3 years ago

I’m using the Memmy app, it’s pretty good. I might try Mlem and see what it’s like!

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MicroWave 6 points 3 years ago

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cod 4 points 3 years ago

I’d highly suggest checking out Memmy too. Very active devs and imo has the most promising future

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Burp 0 points 3 years ago

I believe mlem has been abandoned. I think I saw a post from the dev.

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sjmarf 16 points 3 years ago

The original dev has transferred leadership to someone else, but development is still active. A new release came out today, actually.

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Burp 4 points 3 years ago

Shit, good to know. Thank you.

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davidakuykendall 5 points 3 years ago

I've settled my focus on Memmy with some periodic checks on Mlem. I'm a sucker to try as many new Lemmy apps as I can but Memmy is where I spend my time. The development pace is amazing.

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mint 2 points 3 years ago

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ClassyHatter 5 points 3 years ago

Memmy is great!

EDIT: That link might not work in apps. If that’s the case go here instead: !memmy@lemmy.ml

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Dark_Blade 3 points 3 years ago

I’ve tried the others. None of ‘em are quite as good as Apollo (even with the basics) and both Mlem and Memmy have this problem where one of ‘em has almost all the basics right, but manages to miss out on one or two things where the other one is better.

Still, all of ‘em are so far ahead of the official Reddit app that it’s not even close. Hell, even using a home-screen bookmark for any Fediverse platform is better than the official Reddit app.

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FujiTive 2 points 3 years ago

I have tried some iOS Lemmy apps, the most solid one for me is Memmy

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15liam20 18 points 3 years ago

There seems to be a big difference between browsing /all this morning and from when I first made an account. People seem to be motivated to add content which is making Lemmy punch above its weight at the moment. The Shit per User (SPU) index is pretty high at the moment.

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menemen 8 points 3 years ago

Lol, with 19 days in you are actually one of the lemmy grampas . :)

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Tag365 4 points 3 years ago

What about me? I'm only 11 days in...

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menemen 2 points 3 years ago

Anfänger

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nucleative 4 points 3 years ago

SPU... fuckin' a that's a good one. I'm trying to help push up the average the best I can.

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Smack 15 points 3 years ago

Looks like it has already started. People are reporting limiting errors in apps.

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killernova 4 points 3 years ago

Sync Dev was giving me limit errors today. I reinstalled it and it was working again but I know it's only a matter of time until the end. I won't use the official reddit app or website obviously, so I signed up for lemmy today!

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Knusbiegel 14 points 3 years ago

Memmy is almost feature complete. wefwef.app if you don‘t want to install an app or don‘t have a testflight ticket.

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aRei 12 points 3 years ago

I was just using Sync for Reddit when I noticed I can no longer load comments and then a pop up came up that said I was being rate limited by reddit. F this, I'll no longer visit that site even.

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MicroWave 9 points 3 years ago

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spunker88 10 points 3 years ago

For android I was using Jerboa but switched to Liftoff and am liking it so far.

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ConditionOverload 1 point 3 years ago

I searched for it in the Play Store but couldn't find it. Is it an F-Droid/GitHub app?

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MicroWave 2 points 3 years ago

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Botree 1 point 3 years ago

I'm having trouble clicking on some of the links on Liftoff which I have no issues with on Jerboa but it's still early stages so keeping my options open.

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Cheradenine 0 points 3 years ago

I like Liftoff, but have issues with duplicate posts, blocking communities, and something like 'you aren't logged into X, login to comment' when I am actually logged in. Liftoff and Jerboa both get better with each release though, and the releases are fast.

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spunker88 1 point 3 years ago

By default it integrates multiple instances into one feed. So you end up with duplicate posts since lemmy.world pulls in posts from lemmy.ml for example but then it will also show the original post from lemmy.ml. I suppose this feature could be useful if you wanted to look at multiple sites that weren't synced together already.

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Elcapitan786 10 points 3 years ago

This doesn't appear to be correct, it should be labelled total comments, by day, not per day. You can see the total number of comments on https://the-federation.info/platform/73.

The top two instances, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml have a total number of comments of 156331 and 188364.

Per day comments on lemmy.world averages between 6,000 - 10,000.

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MicroWave 3 points 3 years ago

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Tag365 4 points 3 years ago

Unlike on Reddit, you can rename threads.

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MisuseCase 10 points 3 years ago

I'm part of that, I quit Reddit and nuked all my content on the way out because they're not only forcing Apollo to close down, they tried to blackmail Apollo's developer. I used to be a premium subscriber too.

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faltuuser 9 points 3 years ago

I still use Infinity for reddit from time to time. But these days I spent most of my online time with Jerboa. I had tried the offcial Reddit app and it's basically unusable on my phone.

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ekZepp 9 points 3 years ago

Not bad at all🌈

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MicroWave 13 points 3 years ago

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ekZepp 4 points 3 years ago

We can hope for a positive growth cycle: more people > more content > more people

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kbity 8 points 3 years ago

Not a fan of Lemmy's "new Reddit" type interface (posting from kbin), but I'm happy to see the Fediverse getting some traction regardless.

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ClassyHatter 13 points 3 years ago

Let’s just all agree that some prefers Kbin’s interface and others like Lemmy.

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HollowNotion 9 points 3 years ago

Not trying to stir shit, just genuinely curious what you have a problem with in Lemmy's UI? Seems fine to me so far.

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samus12345 5 points 3 years ago

As a desktop user, I hate all the negative space on the left and right of the screen. I wish it looked more like Old Reddit.

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gnarly 8 points 3 years ago

Oh what luck, there's an old.reddit in your beard.

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TitanLaGrange 5 points 3 years ago

If you're comfortable with CSS you can use a browser plugin to modify the CSS to address specific dislikes. I've got mine set to use most of the page width, increase the sub-comment indent size, and a few other little tweaks.

There are some fancy complete restyles you can use too, but if you just want to tweak a few things an injection plugin is a good option.

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kbity 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not a fan of how it's a narrow, centre-aligned thing. A lot of my web usage is on a Framework Laptop with a 3:2 screen, so the extra width of kbin and old Reddit's interface is valuable to me. Lemmy.world feels like it's made to be used in a window off to the side of something else.

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HollowNotion 1 point 3 years ago

Gotcha, that makes a ton of sense. I guess I just got used to a bunch of websites using this style so it doesn't bother me as much, but it is annoying to have so much wasted space.

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dot20 7 points 3 years ago

That's funny, I chose Lemmy because I didn't like Kbin's UI

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NothingSpecial 8 points 3 years ago

I use wefwef.app, it's not an app but a website specialized for iOS. It feels like Apollo.

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MicroWave 2 points 3 years ago

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NothingSpecial 1 point 3 years ago

Right?!

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AskThinkingTim 8 points 3 years ago

I’m using Memmy right now. All the Apollo users should fully migrate when it’s down.

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nieceandtows 8 points 3 years ago

Wait, there really are 5.7 million comments a day on Lemmy?

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ClassyHatter 9 points 3 years ago

Maybe, but how many of them are by bots?

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sota2077 8 points 3 years ago

Yeah there are a lot of communities out there where there is just a bot that appears to be mirroring what is posted on the subreddit it mirrors. There are a ton of posts like that I have seen.

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Tired8281 3 points 3 years ago

You know, if we had mass tagging built in to the platform, it would solve a lot of bot problems. Probably create whole new ones, too.

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partial_accumen 2 points 3 years ago

Probably create whole new ones, too.

We've seen a isolated instances of a version of some of these problems already.

Human artists having their artwork deemed "computer generated". I, myself have been accused of being a bot. I'm assuming my accusers have arrived conclusion at that because of my choices in use of speech. Would I, on Lemmy, have to fend off a 21st century version of the Scarlet Letter, a "bot" label?

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shenanigans 1 point 3 years ago

Bot detected

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MicroWave 5 points 3 years ago

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exothermic 7 points 3 years ago

Neat, I’m pretty sure this my first comment! Excited to be here

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kiku123 3 points 3 years ago

Welcome to the Fediverse, active user!

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BananaTrifleViolin 7 points 3 years ago

I'm a bit dubious about this stat; it feels similar to the User's stat being over run by bots.

Lemmy has about 50,000 users, similar to Kbin, but it's users are commenting 120 times and also posting 16 times each a day on average? That seems unrealistic.

For comparison, Kbin (which actually has a slightly larger active user base) is produced about 100,000 comments a day, which is about 2 comments a day and about 0.6 posts per user per day. Interestingly Kbin's total users and active users are almost identical.

The threadiverse is certainly doing well, but I think the Lemmy stats continue to be skewed away from reality. I'm wondering if this is not actually all to do with bots, but some fundamental error in the counting/collection? Are the same comments and posts and maybe even the total user count in Lemmy being counted multiple times in the data fed back by the different servers?

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MicroWave 16 points 3 years ago

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letsroll 1 point 3 years ago

Things like this always fall into a power law distribution, so it will fall off very quickly.

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vaguerant 8 points 3 years ago

You need to juice the numbers by posting each paragraph as a separate comment, otherwise you'll never hit your daily 120.

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vaguerant 10 points 3 years ago

I'm doing my part.

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Corran1138 1 point 3 years ago

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lipidi9522 1 point 3 years ago

Me too!

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klieg2323 1 point 3 years ago

You'll use up all the internet ink doing that

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patchw3rk 1 point 3 years ago

Thank

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patchw3rk 1 point 3 years ago

you.

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MBM 2 points 3 years ago

The posts could definitely be inflated by those bots that post everything from reddit and RSS feeds. Haven't seen anything like that for comments but yes 120 is weirdly high, interesting.

Interestingly Kbin’s total users and active users are almost identical.

That also seems fishy. Except for a couple hundred people, everyone that makes an account also leaves a comment?

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slaacaa 6 points 3 years ago

Plus one

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SpaceNoodle 6 points 3 years ago

I just hope there are fewer assholes like me

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Brickhead92 3 points 3 years ago

I would never join a group that would allow someone like me to be apart of it.

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vimdiesel 2 points 3 years ago

I would definitely block me

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Linegod 0 points 3 years ago

Not going to happen

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antoniouslj 6 points 3 years ago

What's crazy is this is only tracking comment traffic. The real unique traffic should be an order of magnitude higher, at least.

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MicroWave 7 points 3 years ago

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RomanRoy 5 points 3 years ago

We're rolling (doing great)

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geo 5 points 3 years ago

Gonna be super interesting to see this curve from 1st Jul...

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Anticorp 5 points 3 years ago

I still can't figure out how to subscribe to a community using the Lemmy mobile website. There doesn't seem to be any button or option for it. I can do it on wedwef.app, and on some actual apps, but not on the website itself.

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adidson 7 points 3 years ago

If you press the button to expand the sidebar, there should be a button to subscribe to the community. Alternatively, you can go to the communities page, search for what you want to subscribe to, and subscribe from there

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Sterben 5 points 3 years ago

We will see on 1th Jul :)

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Cubes 5 points 3 years ago

Really hoping they can get the version incompatibility and stability issues worked out. Most users are going to want to use a mobile app they can just get on the play store/app store and currently Jerboa is still experiencing a lot of crashes and weird glitchiness. I tried Thunder too, but it also crashes randomly, but at least it lets you log into whatever instance you want, unlike Jerboa 0.0.35+

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twistedtxb 4 points 3 years ago

I agree. The Jerboa 35+ incompatibility with Lemmy v17 is very unfortunate timing.

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rDrDr 1 point 3 years ago

Can't log in with Jerboa, Connect crashes on startup for me. wefwef.app is a very pleasant experience though, and just the web interface of lemmy.world itself is great too. I used to use Reddit on my phone just normally on the web in the before times, before they started ruining everything. Pretty refreshing to just go back to that.

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V4uban 1 point 3 years ago

There is also Summit

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AniMattronic 4 points 3 years ago

Started by checking out Mlem. Currently using Liftoff and enjoying the feel so far.

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OldePetey 4 points 3 years ago

here we come!

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ikidd 4 points 3 years ago

For apps, Connect and Summit seem to be the best I've tried. Summit is closest to the app Slide that I used on the website that shall not be named.

Jerboa crashes on older servers so I haven't really been able to use it as Lemmy.world is a 17.X server because of the captcha removal "feature".

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higante 2 points 3 years ago

I breifly had that issue, but it seems to be resolved. Reading and posting from lemmy.world

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tool 1 point 3 years ago

Connect and Liftoff are my favorites so far.

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Spzi 3 points 3 years ago

Also more developers

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xc2215x 3 points 3 years ago

Very impressive for Lemmy.

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MicroWave 15 points 3 years ago

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KotoWhiskas 3 points 3 years ago

Kbin looks a little bit incomplete at first, but I find it's interface so logical and satisfying (except for top bar), that I jump back every time I try to use lemmy

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Balssh 1 point 3 years ago

It's been in development a lot less than Lemmy. By how things look right now I'm preffering kBin over Lemmy.

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Merulox 3 points 3 years ago

I wonder, is that over 0.1% of what Reddit got?

my bad, my bad, a 985% surge is absolutely insane and I adore this community!

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shiro 3 points 3 years ago

let's keep it up

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MicroWave 2 points 3 years ago

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Cybermass 3 points 3 years ago

Wow that's a lot of comments, I've definitely contributed a lot to that

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caffinz 2 points 3 years ago

Relevant username? 😁

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Cybermass 1 point 3 years ago

Haha yes

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iamsgod 3 points 3 years ago

5,7 mil daily seems a lot. does it count other instances like kbin etc?

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MicroWave 4 points 3 years ago

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LokyinN 3 points 3 years ago

gas gas gas

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cantstopthesignal 2 points 3 years ago

Let's call it the reddit effect. When attempts to monetize, centralize, and control forums on the internet results in less monetzeable, centralizable, and controllable forums on the internet.

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Tar_alcaran 1 point 3 years ago

Redidt: just like Digg

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ricdeh 2 points 3 years ago

Give social media corporations a taste of their own medicine

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solarzones 1 point 3 years ago

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